Funny Task Force Story


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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So it's Saturday and I decide that my Dominator needs a few more levels (Only two more levels until 50 IO sets) and a fun way to get these would be to do a Task Force. I decided I don't want to put the work into putting together the right team for Imperius, so Lady Grey it is.

Now since my character is 45, after getting together a team I pass the star off to a 50, a Scrapper whom I picked up after advertising in broadcast. The 50 Scrapper also invited one of his buddies to round off the team to 8.

So the Scrappers immediately begin rushing ahead of the team without waiting for anyone. Okay fine enough, some people play like that, this isn't a Master attempt and as long as they can handle their own, they can go as nuts as they like. Then I notice that they aren't killing the entire mobs before moving on (we aren't doing a speed run) they are leaving the boss and lieutenants alive then rushing to the next spawn. This leaves my dominator in a pinch when I get locked down by two Rikti bosses.

I suggest that if they want to run ahead, that's fine, but they should clean up any mob they aggro before moving on.

The Scrapper I handed the star off to tells me; "That isn't my job."
The Scrappers other scrapper friend then tells me; "Less qq more pew pew" (I don't even know what this means)

I find myself longing for the kick button. I'm actually rather tempted to quit right there (I should have it would have saved me about 2 hours of annoyance). But since things are going fast enough and their odd playstyle isn't really getting anyone killed but me once or twice, I let it go in the hopes of getting a few levels.

Now several of the players haven't done this before, so I'm giving advice as we go. "Try not to free Penny until the Rikti are clear of the room. Clockwork will ambush us here, try to stay together, deal with Famine before war" ect ect. For this Other Scrapper continues with his "Less qq more pew pew" statement several times, I guess because he doesn't like being told what to do. He goes on ignore and things are acceptable in the TF for a while.

Then we come to the Hamidon mission. And this is a pretty hard encounter for people who don't know how to do it. So I give lots of instructions as we go (Please attack my target, everyone move in, everyout out and regroup, switch targets ect ect). There are alot of deaths as we go, and the mission takes awhile. There is some playful banter as we go, the team Leader says at one point he's going to kick me if he dies one more time. I didn't think anything of it at the time. A joke goes around not too, since we won't be able to complete the mission without my dom holding the Green Mitsos.

Mission completely, that was hard but we finally did it! Now onto the last...hey why aren't I on the team anymore? Did I leave the War Zone...no...still here..that means....oh the team leader kicked me.

He kicked me from the TF I organized, that I willingly gave him the star for, that I coached through the mini-Hamidon raid. He tells me in broadcast that I shouldn't tell people what to do and he knows how to play the game. I try to explain there are some people who haven't done this before and needed the guidance. Then I get told that though I've played longer he'll always be better than I am.

on the plus side, half of the team sympathy quit right there and then, great bunch of players that they were. I REALLY made the wrong choice of who to give the star to. But I did get my two levels out of the experience atleast.

Just needed to get some of my frustrations out there on this one. In the future, I'm going to be much more careful about who I invite to a PUG TF.


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I never hand star to someone I don't know. This is pretty much why.

edit: Well, of course, there's also the fact that I almost never team with people I don't know. So that helps a lot. Sometimes friends invite (or request to invite) their friends or invite (or request to invite) puggles to our teams, though, so it's not TOTALLY unheard of.


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All I have to say about this scrapper is:



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Lovely. Some people are just complainers really. In case you care the phrease "Less qq more pew pew" basically means "stop complaining, focus on fighting".


 

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You probably should have asked for the star back after he invited his buddy.

But yeah there are some real idiots out there and that sucks that you had to deal with that. Good to hear that some of the guys had the decency to drop with you even after going through half of the TF.


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What a jerk. And what an incompetent Scrapper. When i'm playing a Scrapper my whole goal is to find the biggest, nastiest or most dangerous to the rest of the team enemy in the spawn and take it down. Repeat until no enemies are left.

Look at the plus side: by kicking you and having half the team quit he virtually guaranteed he couldn't finish the TF.

Jake, if you want to try again i'd be willing to join and help. Though i think it would have to be on Champion, Infinity, Freedom, Victory or Virtue. i might have another 45+ or two on other servers, but i'd have to double check.


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Thanks for the offer Schis but it's really not hard for me to put together a TF on Virtue, so honestly, I'm not crying about the experience too much. I'm really amazed anyone would show that much lack of etiquette.

I just wanted to state again how cool the rest of the team were to support me, I wish I could remember their names beyond Lord Voltaic on Virtue so I could sing their praises.

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Better than you are?

It's not PvP, it's cooperative PvE. Someone didn't even know what game they were playing.
The two were actually in the SG Yes we PVP I believe. So yeah, PVP'ers <_<. Of course I don't think this reflects the PvP community as a whole. Alot of you guys are alright, I just keep running into the bad ones.

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You probably should have asked for the star back after he invited his buddy.
I was only level 45 and we wanted everyone to be 50 during the TF, so I let him start it. Big mistake :S


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Originally Posted by Jake_Summers View Post
Thanks for the offer Schis but it's really not hard for me to put together a TF on Virtue, so honestly, I'm not crying about the experience too much.
*heh* The odds are pretty good i've seen you on Virtue since i tend to play there most of the time.

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The two were actually in the SG Yes we PVP I believe. So yeah, PVP'ers <_<. Of course I don't think this reflects the PvP community as a whole. Alot of you guys are alright, I just keep running into the bad ones.
i know a couple of the members of that SG are a bit immature. At least the two i saw in the RWZ several weeks ago were attempting to verbally PvP some other players in the base. The other players started making light of their macho, self-aggrandizing smacktalk. The median age of this game is a bit too high to impress people by acting like a neurotic 13 year old.

i know some very cool fans of PvP myself. i think the jerks in the PvP population give the other PvPers a worse reputation than the jerks in other subgroups because they tend to aggressively seek players to harass. i suspect it's because the jerk PvPers see the entire game as a competitive/PvP setting, just one where you can't use most of your powers against other players in most zones.


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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
All I have to say about this scrapper is:

I agree, that guy was totally a donkey hat.


 

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Originally Posted by Schismatrix View Post
What a jerk. And what an incompetent Scrapper. When i'm playing a Scrapper my whole goal is to find the biggest, nastiest or most dangerous to the rest of the team

Depends on the playstyle and spec. I do the opposite most of the time as i favor AoE damage rather than ST. I just unload the AoEs in the pack, kill the remaining lieuts then hope the tank will move to the next spawn so i can do more AoE rather than end up hitting a boss with my lousy ST damage. And most of the time if the difficulty is low (like on most TFs i do) and the tank is slow (most are) then i just run to next spawn as soon as BU is up.

Only time i stay for one or two mobs alive is when the difficulty is high enough we can't steamroll it, or there's the AV or something important enough to stay. If 6 or 7 peoples can't manage one or two bosses and the scrappers are supposed to tank them then something is wrong and not only about the scrappers behaviour. And i'm not build for survival so if they rely on me to tank, then we most likely won't do the TF at all

That said, considering the answer you got they probably were not very clever anyway. Whenever i do that and see someone is not happy with (usually the tank complaining) i slow down and explain or just leave if it's not a tf. There's no point going SLOWER with a group than i would do solo. What was not inappropriate imo was not the fact they were rushing but the fact they didn't communicate enough about it to make sure everyone was prepared and ready for it.


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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
All I have to say about this scrapper is:

I agree with this statement. A Scrapper that doesn't want to deal with Bosses and Lieutenants? Okay there is no set formula for playing the game but I'd love to see some of the teams this guy was on. Personally when I play one of my Scrappers I always felt it was part of my JOB to deal with the bosses and lieutenants since I have more damage than most on any team (Blasters aside) and enough HP and defense to hold up while I was doing it.

For part 2 of why he earns the Donkey cap... I've taken leadership of teams in the past to maximize everyone's level but if someone else did all the recruiting/organizing in my mind it was still their team. All I was doing at that point was playing messanger running back and forth to the contact or calling on the phone to arrange the next mission. Your little Scrapper had no desire to put in the effort to physically put a team together and then had the nerve to kick you because he died a few time battling Hamidon? I've done the LGTF and a number of actual Hamidon raids (red and blue side) and when attacking that giant Jello mold a few deaths are to be expected.

Sounds like you found yourself a real Jerk and its just too bad he bounced you 1 mission from TF complete. I was glad to hear a number of others quit when he did that to you. I imagine the TF ended about then since I can't imagine 3-4 players tackling Hero one especially without buffs/debuffs. Hope you have better luck in the future. :-D


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This is someone you need to 1-star and write a note on. That way you can ensure that you, and your friends, can avoid him in the future.
My spidey-sense is tingling... there's someway to propogate stars and player notes to friends?


 

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My spidey-sense is tingling... there's someway to propogate stars and player notes to friends?
I guess you could email the playernote


 

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I guess you could email the playernote
That's so... 1980's


 

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I am somewhat confused as to what the scrapper thought he was doing. Why would any scrapper pass up an opportunity to take down bosses and lts? Isn't that, like, the point of our existence?
Seriously, what was that approach about?
Spines or Electric, I'm guessing.

I have definitely encountered this attitude on the Scrapper Boards every once in a while: "I'm here to do the fun part; you're here to follow behind me and clean up." Usually the context is "I'm killng bosses/LTs and you're mopping up as I move on," but that's the same thing, just with different target prioritization.


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Originally Posted by Jake_Summers View Post
The Scrapper I handed the star off to tells me; "That isn't my job."
That should have been the moment you hit the quit team button. Not because it is his job, but because he's obviously not willing to work as a member of the team.
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The Scrappers other scrapper friend then tells me; "Less qq more pew pew" (I don't even know what this means)
In Warcraft 3 you could hit Alt+QQ to quit a match. If someone complained to much they were told to "Stop complaining or QQ". Eventually it became a taunt by the uber-L337, when they'd win a match saying the loser is unskilled and should just quit. As with Emoticons, the QQ could look like a big pair of eyes with tears, it became more of a "Cry more noob" type of thing. And like was said before "Less QQ more pew pew" basically means stop crying, and fight.


 

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Jake, by my own admission, my sense of humor is a bit off, but that was not a funny story. It is a good cautionary tale though.

I rarely play a tanker, and I rarely team. As a scrapper, I refuse to take taunt.

Yes I know it's useful, but to be honest, it is ony useful in a team, and only marginally so. I can't use it to pull effectively while soloing, so it becomes a wasted power.

On the other hand, despite the fact that I solo alot, both my brutes and tanks take taunt.


 

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Originally Posted by Maniac_Raid View Post
That should have been the moment you hit the quit team button. Not because it is his job, but because he's obviously not willing to work as a member of the team.

In Warcraft 3 you could hit Alt+QQ to quit a match. If someone complained to much they were told to "Stop complaining or QQ". Eventually it became a taunt by the uber-L337, when they'd win a match saying the loser is unskilled and should just quit. As with Emoticons, the QQ could look like a big pair of eyes with tears, it became more of a "Cry more noob" type of thing. And like was said before "Less QQ more pew pew" basically means stop crying, and fight.
Allow me to add that in my experience, the people who say that in other games are usually:

a) PvPers who are being scolded for ganking lowbies,
b) DPS who don't want to wait for the tank,
c) raiders who didn't listen to the raid boss, or
d) some combination of the above.

In other words, this species has already been identified, and it is invasive. Do not feed it.


 

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Just FYI the venerable and o-so-hilarious Rude Tells thread is thattaway------>

This woulda made a great addition, too bad you posted it here instead!