AOE King?

So, I know wayyyy back when it was fire tankers but now, the game has evolved so much and new classes and power sets have been introduced which should have made an impact on who the new AOE king is.

So, is it a brute, tanker, MM or who?

What i mean by AOE king is someone who can solo by street sweeping mobs with bosses and LTs in the mix at least 1 to 2 lvls higher.

I know from experience that a DM/FA brute IS NOT capable of doing it as they have NO survivability what so ever. Yes I have two heals but it just is not enough. I get pummeled mercilessly by the enemy and once one heal goes off i am about to die again cause I have no resistance to poison or whatever. I think the compete and total lack of defense in Fiery Armor is a major factor.

So, I was thinking Shield defense with Electric attack? Or maybe Electric for both primary and secondary? I could call him Energy Crisis!

I know a Dominator would suck as they just don't have the DPS...unless that has changed recently, but i doubt it. I have used my wife's Fire/DM corruptor but still not enough...but when paired with my fire/fire dom, we ****! Wish I could get one of my daughters to play a Demon/Thermal MM so we could be the Family Grim with Screamon Deamon and Screamon Deamonette and Little Deamonette!

Anyway, back to the topic. The best AT/spec that is able to street sweep mobs and live to tell about it. When this game was brand spanking new I did it with a BS/Regen Scrapper....but those days are gone.

Thanks

Not sure about "King" but a SS/Fire/Elec Brute with perma hasten is definitely up there. Foot Stomp, Ball Lightning, Electric Fences can be chained regularly all while pulsing Fire via Blazing Aura, so essentially you are constantly dishing out AOE.

I like street sweepin most in this game, all my toons play this way if im not on a team.

Scrapper is what you wanna play. And any combination will do.

Im currently having fun with a kat/wp, kat/da, and fire/rgn. All around lvl 42 or 43, and all lvl'd concurrently. These give me a good balance between AoE and ST so if an uplvl boss is there im not stuck doin AoE attacks to kill it.
Kill speed is more than adequate.

Check out a claws/sr, its hella fun. Someone quoted it as the "zen" of scrapping, I couldnt agree more.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Ravenwolf My favorite combo is Faceplant/DebtCap with the TeamWipe Ancillary

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Originally Posted by Dispari Yeah, I like Blasters too.

I have a BS/SD scrapper i am working on now....just wonder if the BS portion is limiting me.

I wish BS was a brute power....I love brutes most followed by scrappers then stalkers. I do hate how fury has to build for a brute though and I love scrappers instant ability to do damage and crit.

Hmm, SoA....Bane Spiders, aren't they like a cross between scrapper and stalker?

Silly peoples.

May I introduce you to "Crab soldiers:"

Venom Grenade Ranged (Targeted AoE), Moderate Damage over Time (Toxic), Foe -Resistance

Frag Grenade Ranged (Targeted AoE), Moderate Damage (Lethal/Smashing), Foe Knockback

Frenzy PBAoE, Moderate Damage (Lethal/Energy), Foe: -Defense

Omega Maneuver Summon Omega Bomb: PBAoE, Superior Damage (Smashing/Energy)

Heavy Burst Ranged (Cone), High Damage over Time (Lethal), Foe: -Defense

AND
Bile Spray Cone Damage over time (Toxic)
or
Disruptor Blast Ranged (Targetted Area of Effect), Moderate Damage (Smashing, Energy), Foe: Knockback
or
Ball Lightning Ranged (Targeted Area of Effect), Moderate Damage over Time(Energy), Foe: -Endurance
or
Dark Obliteration Ranged (Targeted Area of Effect), Moderate Damage(Negative), Foe -Accuracy

That's right. 6 AoE's, (I didn't include the melee cone even) 5 usable often. Oh yeah, and the venom grenade not only does decent damage, its debuff makes all other AoE's hit harder, and it is easy to lay down constantly.

I <3 my crab.

Pretty much anything/SD/Fire

Especially Elec/SD/Fire with two mini nukes you can get on like 25 second timers.

Runners up would be : SS/Fire/Elec Arch/Mental Fire/Mental Spines/Fire/Fire.

For street sweeping I'd think something like a Plant/Fire Perma dom would shred minions and bosses alike. No clue how good or bad psi is anymore.

It took a bit of time to get the right build, but my spines/electric scrapper is an absolute killing machine. Endurance was the biggest issue until mid to late 30s, but once that was resolved, he's a thing of beauty.

Tempstra.

Fire/MM/Fire Blaster:

Fireball
Fire Breath
Rain of Fire
Psychic Scream
Drain Psyche(okay, not damage)
Inferno
Psychic Shockwave
Bonfire
Melt Armor(Yeah kinda lame)
Rise of the Phoenix

That's a lot of AoE.

I would second the notion of Elec/SD or Fire/SD scrappers. Another one to consider would be a Spines/Elec or Spines/Dark scrapper. This would play very differently than the /SD monsters but would ber very fun once you got some defense in the build. You could also build a high recharge build in either case (is you have the cash) that would be a blast to play as well.

I have about 35% def on my Spines/Dark which uses a lawnmower build and it's just a joy to play.

Fire/Fire blaster of course would be up high on the list of AoE monster toons as well. Aim+BU...Fireball, RoF...Fire Sword Circle, Combustion...would anything be alive?

For more of an in-your-face, guerilla blapper a Rad/Fire blaster built for S/L defense would be an awesome AoE toon as well, with all the PBAoEs and short, wide cones doing exotic damage types. Like to have 6 AoEs by level 26....(soup du jour??) hmmm that sounds good, I think I'll have that.

Cheers

Elec/SD/Fire or Fire/SD/Fire

Those two Scrapper combos are scary good.

I'll also reccommend Elec/Shield/Fire

BUT

According the Castle shield charge will be getting hit with the nerf bat sometime after GR. Just so you know

I'm currently playing a Spines/Elec scrapper. Once it's fully evolved I'll have:

2 damage auras. They also have secondary effects in the form of -recharge, -speed, and -end on top of good damage.

Spine Burst. Good PBAoE, exotic DoT and good secondary effects.

Throw Spines. Ranged cone with tons of damage.

Ripper. narrow melee cone that does superior damage.

Fire Ball. 'Nuff said.

Unlimited endurance, a so-so heal, and enough resistance to keep it standing. Good god-mode power when you want it. Oh and Lightning Reflexes to keep those AoEs recharging 20% faster.

I haven't decided if it's gonna be "better" than my fire/shield scrap. /Shield kind of breaks the game a little. If you want something that's just... uber. Click. Spawn dead. Move on. Try /shield. If you want something a little more...involved. Try Spines/Fire.

I would like to nominate fire/dark corruptors. Throw down tar patch, pull a couple dozen mobs with darkest night, toss out fearsome stare, then aim, fireball, fire breath and rain of fire. Watch the screen light up with "SCOURGE!" Generally one more round of fireball and fire breath finishes all but the bosses. My fire/dark has been my sole source of anger management for the past two months.

But villainside maps suc for street sweepin.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Ravenwolf My favorite combo is Faceplant/DebtCap with the TeamWipe Ancillary

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Originally Posted by Dispari Yeah, I like Blasters too.

Not including a fire/kin my top ones would be: (in no particular order)

Spines/Fire/Fire Scrapper.
SS/Fire/Elec or Lev Brute.
Elec/SD/Fire or Fire/SD/Fire Scrapper.
And if softcap (easily achieved through frozen armor) Fire/MM blaster.

To be honest, I got myself a Scrapper Kat/Regen/Stamina/SS from lvl 1 to lvl 31 in a matter of weeks, and as of now, my scrapper is pretty much unstoppable. I heard someone say I had build a tank that can hit critical hits once.

Although I know this build is not unique and was tried often. I truly like jumping into large groups of enemies. Slaying everything and move to the next group. My Stamina regen is so high that even with all my buffs and fighting, I can still keep up my superspeed in case I need a quick retreat. Best build I have ever made.

But from a different point of view. I've seen people wasting large groups with relative ease with a Fire/Fire controller.

Yeah. Doms have the second highest melee mods, and second highest non-epic ranged damage mods in the game. (Yep, higher melee than blasters and stalkers.) Their only "Orange numberz" handicap is the limited number of attacks, and the fact that they often lack a damage boosting power.

Except that was only looking at ST damage, although a Fire/Fire Dom can put out a respectable amount of AoE damage.