Discussion: Updates to the Going Rogue website - Mother Mayhem and the Seers!


 

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Oooh... very cool and interesting. Praetoria is such a safe and secure place. I can't believe how the powers-that-be of this world have twisted things so badly.
Well it IS a lot safer there than living in paragon

Praetoria is sounding like my kind of place more and more by the day!


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Originally Posted by Impish Kat View Post
A little bird sitting behind me made this comment....

"I wonder if Aurora was the patient..."

hmmmmm....


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I bet the patient was Malaise.



 

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I wonder how many RP'ers will have to get Handwavium-plated Retcons for their characters now?


 

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Well its going to be great fun finding out the loose ends with Mother Mayham (specially due to the earlier statement. Sister phsyche is over 80 years old).
Might have been mother mayham that was the patient and took over the doc.. Aurora borealis. That would give the reason for mother mayham being so... young.

But why on earth does the seers have reduced life span? hmmm
I sense a soul eater, draining life force or something...


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After reading the Seers background info, I'm just itching to get started on my Psychic's Praetorian counterpart.


 

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Originally Posted by Psyte View Post
I wonder how many RP'ers will have to get Handwavium-plated Retcons for their characters now?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that my Praetorian Grey will need a big huge crazy retcon of doom once all this goes live. (she's my only villain 50, too, I am not deleting her.)


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Good info in this update! Yes, resocialisation and reeducation are the key! With these two tools and a powerful legion of psychics Praetoria will be safe...safe to lie crushed beneath Tyrants iron jack-boots!!

Down with Tyrant and his cronies, Vive la Resistance!!!


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It seem like the Seers are the Praetorian Widows.


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It seem like the Seers are the Praetorian Widows.
I said that waaay back when we got the first look at the concept art.


 

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How can something so "heroic" be creepy?
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With these bios, it is hard to call Praetorians evil. With the Hamidon Wars, it made America harsher. Therefore, certain liberties that Paragon City took for granted no longer exist in Praetoria. People are willing to give up certain freedoms for securities.

I wonder how much change will happen to the current Praetorian story arcs since we have the Seers and Mother Mayhem's current mad children.


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I'm confused. If she was born during the Hamidon wars, how come "our" Shalice Tilman (Sister Psyche) is over 80 years old?

Uhh... yeah. This.

I hope this piece is propaganda and not an attempt at cannon info, because it would greatly contradict established canon.



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All I've got to say is I hope some of her costume pieces will be made available to players. I can see that looking quite sexy on some characters.


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Originally Posted by Zombie Man View Post
Uhh... yeah. This.

I hope this piece is propaganda and not an attempt at cannon info, because it would greatly contradict established canon.
I don't necessarily see an issue here. Remember, Praetorian Earth isn't just a goatee'd mirror universe, it's a history that played out differently due to catalytic events unfolding in a manner separate from ours. Perhaps in Praetoria, the events that resulted in the birth of Shalice Tilman simply ended up occuring later than in Primal Earth.

Though... I would prefer to hear an official response about the discrepancy.


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Originally Posted by Mikuruneko View Post
I don't necessarily see an issue here. Remember, Praetorian Earth isn't just a goatee'd mirror universe, it's a history that played out differently due to catalytic events unfolding in a manner separate from ours. Perhaps in Praetoria, the events that resulted in the birth of Shalice Tilman simply ended up occuring later than in Primal Earth.

Though... I would prefer to hear an official response about the discrepancy.
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  • A: There is no discrepancy
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What We are seeing on the Going Rogue site is how Emperor Cole, aka Tyrant, presents himself and his followers to the Praetorian public. We are seeing the story that Emperor's Cole Group gives to the Praetorian Citizens.

What Emperor Cole and his Main Followers present themselves as is not their "true selfs." Those of us who have played through the Maria Jenkins and Tina McIntyre Arcs have encountered the "real" persona's of the Praetorian Powers.

The Going Rogue Webpage is an INTENTIONAL MIND-BENDER designed to screw around with new players who are unfamiliar with the history of the Praetorian encounters with the Primal Earth Heroes. That's why the updates are such a big deal. We are seeing the story the Loyalists are told, while already knowing the truth the Resistance is trying to tell to the rest of the Praetorians.


 

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All I've got to say is I hope some of her costume pieces will be made available to players. I can see that looking quite sexy on some characters.
Will never happen. Remember, it's mostly (not always!) NPCs that get the cool stuff


 

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Originally Posted by Zombie Man View Post
It would seem odd to, even in a propaganda piece, lie about Shalice's true age.
Well, after reading je_saist's post (and I do get that the GR website is Pro-Cole spindoctoring), it might not be so odd.

They're stating in the propaganda that the Seers have a limited lifespan, and that "unstable" psy people have an even shorter one. If they revealed that Praetor Tilman (in whatever body) was in fact 80+ years old, it'd fly in the face of their statements about the Seers and could potentially bring other things into question.

[Edit] Not that I'd buy into any of that Resistance-spewed slander or even think to question the word of Cole. All hail Emperor Cole! Please don't send me to the Behavioral Adjustment Facility.


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Originally Posted by Ghost Vision View Post
Will never happen. Remember, it's mostly (not always!) NPCs that get the cool stuff
I've wanted that style of a bottom piece and different variations for thigh highs for quite awhile. I also think that is a new hair style.


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Originally Posted by Zombie Man View Post
Uhh... yeah. This.

I hope this piece is propaganda and not an attempt at cannon info, because it would greatly contradict established canon.


Wow seeing them like that just make the old ones look crappy by comparison. I wonder when they are going to update the hero primes looks.
And makes me wonder if and when we are going to get the option for cleavage like that for our toons.


 

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Originally Posted by McBoo View Post
The screenshot makes it look like the seers hover in the air kind of like the Mu from CoV and the body position of the three Seers on the web page appears to support that idea.

Interesting.....


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I was going to say the same thing. Also, "overcame death itself" seems a bit like Ghost Widow, and the whole "Seers" thing also seems like GW's Fortunata Seers. I realize that Mother Mayhem is supposed to be an analog of Sister Psyche, but I'm also getting a "like Ghost Widow" vibe off of her.

I do wonder if there's a connection. Perhaps The Weaver is alive and well in Praetorian Earth?


 

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Seers remind me of a star trek voyager episode where folks werent allowed to have violent thoughts.


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Originally Posted by Santorican View Post
How about giving mother mayhem some pants that actually don't make her look like a skank?????
Quiet you!!! Skank look is in right now.


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My guess is they are hinting that there is going to be alot of psi damage going on in praetoria so its either have psi resists/defense or die.


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My guess is they are hinting that there is going to be alot of psi damage going on in praetoria so its either have psi resists/defense or die.
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