Angels vs Demons


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Since we now have "Demon Summoning", I would like to see something for Angels.
If the villains can call on demons, why shouldn't the heroes be able to call on Angels.
I think it would be a balance and also fun to see angels beat down some demons.


 

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Why are you capitalizing angels but not demons?

Anyway, masterminds are a redside AT, so I don't see them summoning angels any time soon. Even with GR around the corner.


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Why are you capitalizing angels but not demons?
well, 'A' starts off the alphabet. As you go through the whole thing, your hand gets a bit tired, and by the time 'd' rolls around, you can't manage a capital any more. it's like this:

A B C d e f...


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Because angels aren't supposed to be the sorts of beings who interact with mortals directly all the time. An angel-calling hero would have to be a singular entity (read: NPC) in order to even make sense. Angel summoning as a PC powerset would be chock full of unfortunate implications - if you want an epic divine battle, just make a character who is himself an angel.


 

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This is a silly idea. Angels don't even exist in CoX.


 

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I don't want to start a huge flame war and I don't really think Angel Summoning is a good idea for COH.. as mentioned solo pets aside summoning is mostly an MM thing (with exception like ILL, etc hero side as pets not minons) and unless they are fallen angels explain why they are working for a villain?

Biggest reason I see why NC Soft won't go for this is the whole Politically Correct thing.. Heaven forbid (did she just say heaven LOL) we have angels in game someone might take offense. Okay that said then explain why we seem perfectly willing to acknowledge the existance of hell through Demon summoning but not a heaven? Personally I really don't mind one way or the other and I love my DS/DM that thought just sort of popped into my head as I read this post. Unfortunately for the OP for the reasons I stated in paragraph one along with the whole PC issue I doubt you'll see angels in game any time soon. Hey do what the one person suggested and create a character that's an angel.


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...weeping angels...


 

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Yeah I'm going to agree with Wendy here. In general video game companies try to avoid any explicit mentions of real world religions. Fantasy worlds have their own made up theology but for worlds in a modern setting the easiest solution is simply to avoid all mention of theology. For example there aren't (as far as I can recall) any places of worship whatsoever in Paragon City .


 

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This is a silly idea. Angels don't even exist in CoX.
Pffftt... Argent Sojourner would punch you in the face



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This is a silly idea. Angels don't even exist in CoX.
Odd, I see them running around Paragon all the time.

As for the reason. Demons are more "everything" I for instance don't recall an angel in greek mythology (my knowledge of greek mythology is a bit rusty however).

Angel could possibly set some people off "Angels have wings, angels don't have wings, my religion's angels would never do that".

Demon's are a little more generic.


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Agree with BrandX, "demons" in comics often have no religious connection nor any to the Christian hell. A lot of times they're just extradimensional creatures of some sort, sometimes pretending to be "agents of the Devil" and whatnot.


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Agree with BrandX, "demons" in comics often have no religious connection nor any to the Christian hell. A lot of times they're just extradimensional creatures of some sort, sometimes pretending to be "agents of the Devil" and whatnot.
Exactly.

Look at Manga, for instance. Open any Manga with a non-everyday plot and you have a bout a 50/50 chance or running into angels and about 1/1000 chance of actually having an explicit religion mentioned. Hell, Sephiroth himself apes an angel in his final form.

As well, angels never seem to stop game designers. Heroes of Might and Magic has always featured Angels, Archangels and occasionally Seraphims. And our own PlayNC designed the Kamael for Lineage II, who to my understanding are basically humanoid angels.

I feel there's easily room for angels in City of Heroes, even as Mastermind summons, because some of the coolest villains in general fiction are those who present themselves are saints and martyrs, using divine-looking power for the wrong cause. You don't even have to call it "Angel Summoning." You can just go with "Celestial Summoning" and start with something simpler, light elementals or preachers, only ending in one singular angel for the final henchman.


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Yeah I'm going to agree with Wendy here. In general video game companies try to avoid any explicit mentions of real world religions. Fantasy worlds have their own made up theology but for worlds in a modern setting the easiest solution is simply to avoid all mention of theology. For example there aren't (as far as I can recall) any places of worship whatsoever in Paragon City .
Darksiders disagrees with you
But then again, War is beating equal ammounts of snot outta both sides of that fight, so...at least he's not descriminating


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My favorite Doc Who episode x 999^99 evah!
The first one with David Tennant was greatness. The subsequent episodes with Matt Smith were good but by no means on the same level and I was really let down when they showed the angels moving in Flesh and Stone. For me it removed some of their creepiness.


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the only thing nearest to angels is illusional tbh. but not so much.


 

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I don't want to start a huge flame war and I don't really think Angel Summoning is a good idea for COH.. as mentioned solo pets aside summoning is mostly an MM thing (with exception like ILL, etc hero side as pets not minons) and unless they are fallen angels explain why they are working for a villain?

Biggest reason I see why NC Soft won't go for this is the whole Politically Correct thing.. Heaven forbid (did she just say heaven LOL) we have angels in game someone might take offense. Okay that said then explain why we seem perfectly willing to acknowledge the existance of hell through Demon summoning but not a heaven? Personally I really don't mind one way or the other and I love my DS/DM that thought just sort of popped into my head as I read this post. Unfortunately for the OP for the reasons I stated in paragraph one along with the whole PC issue I doubt you'll see angels in game any time soon. Hey do what the one person suggested and create a character that's an angel.
Heh, the funny thing about this is that Christianity seems to have mostly done this themselves when they converted pagans and literally demonized their old gods (some of whom I might imagine they were more willing to demonize than others, Lerajie doesn't exactly sound too nice), this seems to have led to the subconscious outlook in the Western world that demons are everywhere and exist in all religions, but angels only exist in one.

Personally, it might be nice to see some reference that there are forces of good in the game outside of heroes/PC heroes. To my understanding, the only good god in CoX lore canon is Ermeeth, the god who taught humanity magic and wanted to make humans equal to the gods. And it can be assumed he's been at least MIA since the end of the Mu Oranbegan war.
Oh, and Faathim the Kind too.
That brings up good cosmic forces in the CoX universe up to... Two.


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The first one with David Tennant was greatness. The subsequent episodes with Matt Smith were good but by no means on the same level and I was really let down when they showed the angels moving in Flesh and Stone. For me it removed some of their creepiness.
I'll have to see if I can catch it, IMO the "qauntum locked" idea (IIRC) was pure genius and added an awesome twist to the story. It really did add to the creepiness of the whole thing, just imagine being locked in a room with just one of those guys, have to keep your eyes locked on it and knowing every time you closed them it was inching closer and closer.



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