Lost - SERIES FINALE! - 5/23/10

Oh yeah, great Hurley line, and I'm paraphrasing it here:

Jacob: Worse than Yoda.

Needs to be a t-shirt.

Just because they didn't show Winston in the Church doesn't mean he isn't moving on. He just isn't moving on with them. Christian said that world was created for them through their connections, which is why they had to move on together.

Winston will most likely move on with Walt and Michael, whenever Michael removes his earthly bonds, which to me is why he and the others were on the Island still. They're basically ghosts except I kind of interpret it as FLocke was forcibly keeping Christian and Locke from being able to be awakened in Purgatory. Though to be fair, that could just be because of the metatime we interpret the show in because it's a show.

I think even had Ben sorted himself out and forgiven himself, he probably wouldn't have been in the church with them either, and would instead have moved on with his daughter.

Speaking of Ben... for all the creepiness and being a cold, calculating mastermind wannabe... it only took a split second to truly show he'd redeemed himself, when he saved Hurley from the tree since that didn't involve thinking or planning. He just acted.

Lved the finale. I would've liked some more answers about the nature, purpose, or origin of the island, but I'm OK with some things remaining unsaid.

I loved what the "sideways" reality turned out to be, but I have at least one problem with it. If the sideways reality was all about the souls, spirits, etc. of the losties finding each other, what was the deal with sunken island in the first episode of the season? Was that metaphorical - did it represent the fact that they all buried the sins of their pasts? Or did it mean that sometime in the far distant future, after Hugo and Ben's time on the island, it really did sink?

Either way, I now wish they'd never shown it. If it was a metaphor, it was unnecessary, and a just tease for something that never really meant anything and never came to fruition. If it was the latter, then I call BS because from what we saw of the island shaking itself apart, the Darmha compound never would've still been standing.

The other thing the ending makes me think about regarding the sideways reality is, where there ever any scenes in which one of the people at the church at the end did not appear? If not, that would be awesome. Since that reality was merely a construct of their souls, spirits, subconciousnesses, whatever, there really shouldn't have been any scenes they were not in. I don't think that's the case though. Aside from the aforementioned underwater island scene, I think there was a scene with Keamy and his sidekick in the hotel hallway looking for Jin and Sun. If there were scenes without the main characters, I can live with it, but I think it would have been much cooler if there weren't any. The sunken island bugs me though.

Also.. am I the only one that thought Hurley and Ben's two-line exchange outside the church spoke volumes about how their relationship'd grown and wished they could've seen how awesome they ended up?

I would totally watch a sequel to Lost featuring Ben and Hugo protecting the island!

Quote:

Fanwanking, the sunken Island was a metaphor in that, if it was still above water, and people were awaken, they might desire to go back to the Island and not let go or move on. The Island needed to be destroyed so these people could realize they needed to live and learn in the "real world" and not potentially run and hide on the Island.

A good enough guessplanation, but it presumes that each of the Losties subconsciously knew the island had sunk (including Ben and Shannon, who weren't on the plane), plus I still think it was unnecessary. It was important for them to move on whether the island still existed or not, and I think it would've been more fulfilling if the island existed, and they still put it behind them. All-in-all, a minor gripe about a great season of a fantastic show.

Also, just out of curiousity - am I the only Lost fan in existence who didn't hate the Paulo and Nikki mini-storyline?

A fitting end to a fantastic show.

Now, pardon me while I go search for my constant.

Just watched it. Like it, bitter sweet.

Wish we'd learnt more about the island though...

Maybe they should make a prequel

Still waiting for Doc Jensen's recap, I found the Instant Dharma recap pretty well exemplifies my feelings. It's kinda long.

http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/05/24/in...de-17-the-end/

Just watched the episode for the second time on my DVR, and I have to say it is much more profound the second time around. Knowing what's coming at the end just makes every moment that much more special, and seeing the connections and foreshadowing that was going on in the episode is just...fantastic.

It's hard to believe, but I actually cried MORE the second time. I actually had to take a break from babysitting my niece and nephew so I could go in the bathroom and sob for a minute. Man, I need to find someone to discuss this with.

Also, while I was watching this and crying my eyes out, my 2 year old nephew climbed up onto the couch, stared at me for a few seconds, and then jumped into my lap and gave me a hug. I was impressed and cried some more.

Why do people think LOST was so complicated?

1. Some people die in a plane crash.
2. After you die, most people don't realize it and exist for a while in a world similar to their own lives, much like the sideway universe of season 6.
3. Sometimes, especially when dying suddenly and violently (plane crash, ship wreck, etc.), you end up on the island, which is the center of "purgatory", the border between death and "what comes after", if anything.
4. At some level the people on the island are aware that they are dead and gain power from that subconscious realization (jacob, mib, ben, richard, etc.). With that power comes fear of the light at the center of the island. MIB wants to leave the island, but cannot as long as he is aware of the light.
5. Destroying the island/light is like destroying the knowledge of death and the power is gone, hence why MIB can be killed after Desmond extinguishes the light. It also explains why leaving the island causes nothing but anguish. Once you have the knowledge that it represents, the sideways universe is unsatisfying.
6. Accepting that you are dead removes the pain and you can move on.

To recap:

1. Purgatory is normally not realizing you are dead.
2. Some people realize that they are dead, but cannot accept it. That is the island.

Yeah, the Island is real. Christian said what happened there was real. Hurley and Ben discuss their tenure as Head Honcho and Mr. Smithers there.

If the Island is Purgatory, how did get to the Island "peacefully?" Penny, The Freighter Folk, Dharma's sub. Also, what did it mean when the O6 left to the "real world," but came back.

No, the Island was real, but maybe a gateway to the otherside, but in of itself, it was almost like Hawaii!

The only reason why I don't think anyone else turned into a Smoke Monster was a) Desmond is immune to that (cause of Smoke Monsterness: electromagnetism) and b) Jack was pure of soul when he sacrificed himself.

For those who also got cheated out of watching the Kimmel post-finale wrap show, I sent an email to the Programming office at the Memphis ABC affiliate about it, and here's the response I got (less than 12 hrs later...very impressive)