RP SG's...where have you gone?(also, lore.)


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I recently came back after a long absence, but....the only and I do mean ONLY SG i've seen that's still together...well, the only RP one. is the jadewire.

I'm wondering what larger SGs are still out there from long ago?


I used to be in the fallen and in the villains of paragon city....

do you think there are going to be ALOT of new SG's when GR comes out?


Also, where do you all look up your CoX lore? I can't seem to find any good sources.


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You must have never left Atlas.

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Well, Justice Guard and Hero Dawn are 2 larger groups that come to mind. Paragonian Knights is still going strong also.

As far as lore. Paragon Wiki is a good spot to start.


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Well, Justice Guard and Hero Dawn are 2 larger groups that come to mind. Paragonian Knights is still going strong also.

As far as lore. Paragon Wiki is a good spot to start.
Aren't they semi-RPing ones? I don't play blueside much so I could be wrong there.
The Justice Girls* also come to mind, not sure how long they've been around though.


* Which I think are an "RP friendly, but definitely not required" group.

And yes, Paragon Wiki as Shecky said is your best source, along with the official website which holds nice articles about all the villain groups, history, etc... (most of which has also been copied to the Wiki IIRC.)


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The Dauntless Reverie is still kicking about as well if you've got a character who's magically oriented.


 

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Hmm,

I noticed I seemed to see less of them too, when I started back, but I assumed that was just the playerbase in general shrinking. Hardcore RP guilds tend to be a bit of a select clique in any game, though, so I'd just keep looking, and above all keep playing and meeting people. you'll find one that appeals to you eventually.


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The Dauntless Reverie is still kicking about as well if you've got a character who's magically oriented.
This.

Also if you're looking for a more technological/JLA-ish vibe, check out the Guardian Force.


 

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well I know that most of the RP SGs left atlas...it's just the only one's I've really seen that is strictly an RP sg...as in wen you post, you're seperating ooc and IC chat with (()) or something of the sort....

has been the jadewire, and I mean I've seen several VGs that I knew,


and I know the play base is shrinking, because alot of the RPers moved onto diff games/got bored and stuff.


just curious, is all.


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you must have never left atlas.

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Originally Posted by Rintera View Post
I recently came back after a long absence, but....the only and I do mean ONLY SG i've seen that's still together...well, the only RP one. is the jadewire.

I'm wondering what larger SGs are still out there from long ago?


I used to be in the fallen and in the villains of paragon city....

do you think there are going to be ALOT of new SG's when GR comes out?


Also, where do you all look up your CoX lore? I can't seem to find any good sources.
How long ago do you consider long ago? The Teen Phalanx (possibly a bit of a shameless plug, but not really meant to be a shameless plug) is coming up on it's 3rd year.

Mod-Heavy RP SG. In fact, most members would rather RP than actually level. Great group of people.


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The Dauntless Reverie is still kicking about as well if you've got a character who's magically oriented.
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This.

Also if you're looking for a more technological/JLA-ish vibe, check out the Guardian Force.
Thirded.


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Paragon Universe is good, still going strong. And an RP group that's been around a while

Ditto the Dawn Academy.


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I've seen less, as well. I have been trying to find an SG that doesn't demand all my time (Or even me to get on once a week as sometimes I'm just too busy, but some have strict 'need to be on' times that I just can't swing.) I have been on CoX for, a little past three years, and I found out if I do find a rather casual group of RPers they ostrocise the new people, which bothers me. I joined three groups since I made a post in the Virtue Boards, and asked where RP groups would be. I joined some with a few characters, had little time, but got in, and if I wasn't part of thier forum, or there every other day for an RP session I got left in the dust. People didn't give a damn about my character and I, eventually, had to leave because I did not feel welcome.

I KNOW there are plenty. I have discussed with people, I have joined some groups, but I get the general feeling I have in other MMOs, when a group has been going on for a while. There's 'the main heroes' and then 'the stand off cast'. I am one that seems to be resigned to be the one of the Wonder Twins in the Justice Leagues of CoX. You never really get appreciated, and it makes RPing less fun, because when you suggest something, people either ignore it, or push it away because you're not a 'regular'.

Over the years, I finally decided to have all my characters be 'unaffiliated'. I never join SG/VGs anymore. WhY? Because if you join one, you get less respect than if you find yourself in an SG/VG dispute from the outside, and then help/harm the heroes for your own selfless/selfishness rather than the 'good of the group'. I'm not saying to not keep looking for them, just saying my own poor times with SG/VGs, recently.

(Groups was in but didn't work out: Mellenium Paladins, The Youth League, Paragonian knights, United Sentinels of America, The Teen Phalanx, All Star Teen Sentinels, Gods of the Golden Age, Guardians of the Golden Age, The Young Rogues, Dauntless Reverie, Blackweb, Abandoned Warehouse. Those I remember, red/blue side, that I eventually quit due to feeling a bit unwelcome in the end. I know Most (If not all) of the groups are still around.)


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This was the end of the thread. The extra messages are invalid.
Being an *** ends a thread? If that were true we'd never get past page 1. In game, i never would have found the RP SGs easily. I had to use resources outside of game to find almost all of the ones I listed.


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You see less of the RP SGs most likely because a lot of it might be taking place in specifically written arcs for the SGs (using the Mission Architect for its intended purpose).


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I've seen less, as well. I have been trying to find an SG that doesn't demand all my time (Or even me to get on once a week as sometimes I'm just too busy, but some have strict 'need to be on' times that I just can't swing.) I have been on CoX for, a little past three years, and I found out if I do find a rather casual group of RPers they ostrocise the new people, which bothers me. I joined three groups since I made a post in the Virtue Boards, and asked where RP groups would be. I joined some with a few characters, had little time, but got in, and if I wasn't part of thier forum, or there every other day for an RP session I got left in the dust. People didn't give a damn about my character and I, eventually, had to leave because I did not feel welcome.

I KNOW there are plenty. I have discussed with people, I have joined some groups, but I get the general feeling I have in other MMOs, when a group has been going on for a while. There's 'the main heroes' and then 'the stand off cast'. I am one that seems to be resigned to be the one of the Wonder Twins in the Justice Leagues of CoX. You never really get appreciated, and it makes RPing less fun, because when you suggest something, people either ignore it, or push it away because you're not a 'regular'.

Over the years, I finally decided to have all my characters be 'unaffiliated'. I never join SG/VGs anymore. WhY? Because if you join one, you get less respect than if you find yourself in an SG/VG dispute from the outside, and then help/harm the heroes for your own selfless/selfishness rather than the 'good of the group'. I'm not saying to not keep looking for them, just saying my own poor times with SG/VGs, recently.

(Groups was in but didn't work out: Mellenium Paladins, The Youth League, Paragonian knights, United Sentinels of America, The Teen Phalanx, All Star Teen Sentinels, Gods of the Golden Age, Guardians of the Golden Age, The Young Rogues, Dauntless Reverie, Blackweb, Abandoned Warehouse. Those I remember, red/blue side, that I eventually quit due to feeling a bit unwelcome in the end. I know Most (If not all) of the groups are still around.)
As one of the leaders of the Teen Phalanx, I know I've seen this problem. And I've commented on it.

But I also know, sometimes it's the concept that just isn't clicking (which I've put my own alts in, and they just didn't click, even if I loved the concept).

That said, I'd need to know more, to know why the Teen Phalanx itself didn't work out for you.

Some things in general that I find that cause new members some problems (not only to the Teen Phalanx but other RP SGs I've been a part of)...

1) Concepts. People come in with the OMG powerful concepts, that haven't proved themselves to the members of the SG whether it's IC or OOC or both.

Couple of examples...

The INV/SS that can take all the damage in the world and inflict it just as much. Basicly the superman. This doesn't have to be limited to INV/SS, just using it as an example. Even if another is able to bypass it, they say it just doesn't work.

The healer concept. I've seen people complain, my toon is able to heal people, that's the concept but the other person isn't being healed! Because that player doesn't want their toon healed, and want to RP being injured. Basically healers get called god-modders, even when their primary is Empathy which is all about healing.

Now when used on my main, this is a non issue, as part of her is that she can very easily be healed by anyone who can heal. So a little less a worry when dealing with my toon, but others say it takes away from their RP. I've found this to be a general RP problem.

The one trick pony concepts. Common among the telepath concepts, when everyone (not 100% but Id say 99%) has a "can't be be effected by telepaths clause even it's just saying well they have a strong willpower".

Which I've said here and to my SG in it's OOC channel, I still don't get. At least with my main I can see it, as she's a DB/WP and a RAD/DP/PSI, both which have Psi Resist shields. Or even my Dark Miasma users. On my non-psi resist, I've let them go down easily enough versus psi users.

I'm told this is more of a OOC trust issue than anything else.

2) Being part of a RP SG, in fact, does take being a bit active. Not saying every day type of deal, but if you're showing up once a week, or showing up at the down times of the majority of the SG, and then just show up when no one knows you or your toon, it's going to cause some WTF moments or who are you moments.

My own RL friend had this problem when he joined my SG. And when he did start showing up, it didnt help that his concept was considered psycho and doing WAY over the top (like some weird anime) type stuff, that people could only look at the toon and go...Ummmmm, how the hell do I even react to this.

3) RP styles. You see it here on the forums as well. Some people factor in enhancements, inspirations and influence as actual tangible things. While others don't. Some factor in security levels. Some don't. Some say if you can't be beaten in PvP then you aren't beaten in RP.

Some people don't mind using the emoticons, others do.

Some people don't want to see abbreviations used in RP chat. When people RP using LOL, WTF, BRB...ect...

Some players won't want to RP with you if you're typing/spelling is just that bad. Typos happen, but if it's just plain bad typing (as in a learning disability) Ive found people will want to ignore you (not always, but some people will).


So after all this is said, it comes back to...it takes finding an RP SG you mesh with. And sometimes this isn't easy. Especially with the varied concepts out there. For example I find it hard to RP with vampires concepts. Why? Everyone with the vampire concept has different rules to it.

Wooden stakes work on this concept. Wooden stakes don't on this concept. This concept automatically turns you into a vampire if they bite you. This concept has to want to turn you into a vampire. This vampire is weak in the sun. This vampire isnt. This vampire is immune to all the things you expect a vampire a hollywood style vampre to be weak too, but has all the strengths of a hollywood vampire.

And amazingly enough most of them say that's how they all are, when another concept would go totally against it.

This is why I personally don't join Golden Age style SGs. Paragon isn't set in a Golden Age setting. It's more a silver/modern age setting.

Nothing wrong with the golden age settings, but I don't see how you can go around RPing with everyone else in the game (and ive seen Golden Age style heroes do such things), when most others arent RPing in that setting.

Golly gee willikers, doesn't mesh well with, @#$%%@$ I'm going to #@$%&$ you with a @#$&%* pony and @$&*@ your skull and $*#*@ kill your @$&$&3 dog.


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This is why I personally don't join Golden Age style SGs. Paragon isn't set in a Golden Age setting. It's more a silver/modern age setting.

Nothing wrong with the golden age settings, but I don't see how you can go around RPing with everyone else in the game (and ive seen Golden Age style heroes do such things), when most others arent RPing in that setting.

Golly gee willikers, doesn't mesh well with, @#$%%@$ I'm going to #@$%&$ you with a @#$&%* pony and @$&*@ your skull and $*#*@ kill your @$&$&3 dog.

I RP my Golden Age concept as a teenage hero of the 1930's that has just recently escaped from one of the many shard dimensions.

As for Vampires... in a game where people can pay or take drugs to acquire immortality and super-powers; becoming a vampire is dumb.


 

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As one of the leaders of the Teen Phalanx, I know I've seen this problem. And I've commented on it.

But I also know, sometimes it's the concept that just isn't clicking (which I've put my own alts in, and they just didn't click, even if I loved the concept).

That said, I'd need to know more, to know why the Teen Phalanx itself didn't work out for you.

Some things in general that I find that cause new members some problems (not only to the Teen Phalanx but other RP SGs I've been a part of)...

1) Concepts. People come in with the OMG powerful concepts, that haven't proved themselves to the members of the SG whether it's IC or OOC or both.

Couple of examples...

The INV/SS that can take all the damage in the world and inflict it just as much. Basicly the superman. This doesn't have to be limited to INV/SS, just using it as an example. Even if another is able to bypass it, they say it just doesn't work.

The healer concept. I've seen people complain, my toon is able to heal people, that's the concept but the other person isn't being healed! Because that player doesn't want their toon healed, and want to RP being injured. Basically healers get called god-modders, even when their primary is Empathy which is all about healing.

Now when used on my main, this is a non issue, as part of her is that she can very easily be healed by anyone who can heal. So a little less a worry when dealing with my toon, but others say it takes away from their RP. I've found this to be a general RP problem.

The one trick pony concepts. Common among the telepath concepts, when everyone (not 100% but Id say 99%) has a "can't be be effected by telepaths clause even it's just saying well they have a strong willpower".

Which I've said here and to my SG in it's OOC channel, I still don't get. At least with my main I can see it, as she's a DB/WP and a RAD/DP/PSI, both which have Psi Resist shields. Or even my Dark Miasma users. On my non-psi resist, I've let them go down easily enough versus psi users.

I'm told this is more of a OOC trust issue than anything else.

2) Being part of a RP SG, in fact, does take being a bit active. Not saying every day type of deal, but if you're showing up once a week, or showing up at the down times of the majority of the SG, and then just show up when no one knows you or your toon, it's going to cause some WTF moments or who are you moments.

My own RL friend had this problem when he joined my SG. And when he did start showing up, it didnt help that his concept was considered psycho and doing WAY over the top (like some weird anime) type stuff, that people could only look at the toon and go...Ummmmm, how the hell do I even react to this.

3) RP styles. You see it here on the forums as well. Some people factor in enhancements, inspirations and influence as actual tangible things. While others don't. Some factor in security levels. Some don't. Some say if you can't be beaten in PvP then you aren't beaten in RP.

Some people don't mind using the emoticons, others do.

Some people don't want to see abbreviations used in RP chat. When people RP using LOL, WTF, BRB...ect...

Some players won't want to RP with you if you're typing/spelling is just that bad. Typos happen, but if it's just plain bad typing (as in a learning disability) Ive found people will want to ignore you (not always, but some people will).


So after all this is said, it comes back to...it takes finding an RP SG you mesh with. And sometimes this isn't easy. Especially with the varied concepts out there. For example I find it hard to RP with vampires concepts. Why? Everyone with the vampire concept has different rules to it.

Wooden stakes work on this concept. Wooden stakes don't on this concept. This concept automatically turns you into a vampire if they bite you. This concept has to want to turn you into a vampire. This vampire is weak in the sun. This vampire isnt. This vampire is immune to all the things you expect a vampire a hollywood style vampre to be weak too, but has all the strengths of a hollywood vampire.

And amazingly enough most of them say that's how they all are, when another concept would go totally against it.

This is why I personally don't join Golden Age style SGs. Paragon isn't set in a Golden Age setting. It's more a silver/modern age setting.

Nothing wrong with the golden age settings, but I don't see how you can go around RPing with everyone else in the game (and ive seen Golden Age style heroes do such things), when most others arent RPing in that setting.

Golly gee willikers, doesn't mesh well with, @#$%%@$ I'm going to #@$%&$ you with a @#$&%* pony and @$&*@ your skull and $*#*@ kill your @$&$&3 dog.
What kind of RP am I looking for if I don't want to intentionally let my toon get defeated? Is that considered light RP? I just want to add a some personality to my 1-50 run for a change.


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I RP my Golden Age concept as a teenage hero of the 1930's that has just recently escaped from one of the many shard dimensions.

As for Vampires... in a game where people can pay or take drugs to acquire immortality and super-powers; becoming a vampire is dumb.
Heh...I don't mean a golden-age style superhero transported (or incased in ice) and transported to the modern times. I mean, actual golden-age. I think you know what I mean.


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I've seen less, as well. I have been trying to find an SG that doesn't demand all my time (Or even me to get on once a week as sometimes I'm just too busy, but some have strict 'need to be on' times that I just can't swing.) I have been on CoX for, a little past three years, and I found out if I do find a rather casual group of RPers they ostrocise the new people, which bothers me. I joined three groups since I made a post in the Virtue Boards, and asked where RP groups would be. I joined some with a few characters, had little time, but got in, and if I wasn't part of thier forum, or there every other day for an RP session I got left in the dust. People didn't give a damn about my character and I, eventually, had to leave because I did not feel welcome.
...
See, I've been on the other end of this, and it bothers -me- when I give new members several options to interact with us like forums, prime activity times, and even OOC channels. And then the new player doesn't take advantage of any other RP opportunities I've offered them. And then they show up once every other week or so and complain that they feel left out because no one's interacting with them or they don't know what's going on.

I'll be honest, I do not get your mentality. Being in a RP group is a 2-way relationship. It's hard for us to RP with you if you don't put that much effort into RPing with us.


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I RP my Golden Age concept as a teenage hero of the 1930's that has just recently escaped from one of the many shard dimensions.

As for Vampires... in a game where people can pay or take drugs to acquire immortality and super-powers; becoming a vampire is dumb.
Most vampire groups I've run across seem to prefer just flat out ignoring any superheroes or supervillains or anything outside of their vampirey circle. Seems a little silly to me. *shrug*


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good luck D.B.B.