Still dont understand.

I haven't used mids yet. Paragon wiki was where I learned all about io's, set bonuses and such. (ahh the day where I slotted a full posi set into 6 moves, 1 piece per move, pfffhahahahaha)

I'd like to use it sometime for the mathmatical side of things though. Maybe I'll tinker around with it tonight.

First off, I apprechiate everyones replies, comments, and flames towards my spelling, as well as assumptions that im the problem when it comes to being team kicked.As I dont commonly talk at all in game unless im looking for a team in the first place.

Secondly, yes I play on Freedom.From what iv been understanding its the main server that has these problems with other peoples attitudes.

Now 1 of you asked what kind of odd builds im playing to get me kicked, or looked over when people are making teams.Ill list a few of them to give you a understanding of my play style.

But first, id also like to address someone elses comment about claiming I had a Ice/Sonic build, and commented in another post that I didnt have one.You are correct, however, I recently made that same build after commenting on that combo, then commented in this post about having it.Because I do.

My uncommon builds are.

Dark/Dark - Tanker
Storm/Elec - Defender
Cold/Ice - Defender
Rad/Ice - Blaster
Earth/Earth - Dominator
Ice/Sonic - Controller
Traps/Rad - Defender
Spines/Invln - Scrapper

These are to name only a few.However Ill list off some builds that have been kicked from a team by the leader because of ignorance or Biast.Also id like to point out its not as often as it may have seemed when I first made this post, but it does happen some times.These kicks come before im even seen in action on these builds, and many times come with a /tell in the form of a insult, or someone simply not needing or wanting my type of build for there team.

The list of builds that was dissmissed before I was allowed to enter the mission, or was kicked the moment I entered a mission just by looking at my apperant powers are.

Fire/Fire - Tanker
Storm/Elec - Defender
Rad/Ice - Blaster
Earth/Sonic - Controller
Sonic/Sonic - Defender
FF/Archery - Defender

There might be a couple more I may not be remembering off the bat, but these are the few builds iv been booted off a team with for 1 reason or another.

None of which are poor performers at all, or built horribly either.In fact, I tend to more then exceed the roll for the AT I tend to play due to blessings from the devs that cost me a few extra bucks, but none the less have contributed to making me a heavy team contributor on my builds, or allow me to solo with ease.

The biggest 10 dollar power I rave about is Ninja Run.I dont have to skip a thing in my builds by level 50.I can have easly every power in both my Primary and Secondary sets and still ahve room for the Fittness pool, minus Hurdle.If I want a Epic pool, then I just choose a power I dont need at all from my build and by level 50, I can have 3 Fittness Pool powers and 3 Epic Pool powers.

Powers like If I went with a Traps/ Defender, and skipped Web Grenade.I could take every other power after that in Traps, and have every single blast from my Secondary by level 38.Same for Tanks, Blasters, Scrappers, Ect.

I make characters that have a balance from there power sets.To me, being able to use most, if not all of my powers in my sets makes a more solid character then if I went to use a Mid's Program, or other pools for that matter.

My point is, the Mid's users may find comfort in the use of the program.I however do not.

Ill also point out that you are correct.I dont use IOs.I have yet to find the need for them.You Min/Maxers or none proclaimed Min/Maxers that use Mid's to Map out your character have found your way to play the game.I cant say anything cross about that anymore.No point.

I will say that while you may be a exspert at spelling, Mids, or just being that person who uses Assumptions to make someone look like they have a problem.I have went and learned the game from a diffrent stand point.

Primary X + Secondary Y = Desired Balance.

That simple equation is the root of how I play.I dont go for Synergy most the time.I go for Balance in whatever feild of performance I wish to go.

Examples are very much like my Builds.Sit down and look at the builds Iv listed off, and with very little common sense, you know there function.No need for Mid's, or IOs, or heavy thinking.

As for my spelling?Ok, so?

If you dont like my spelling, then simply dont read it.If you find it a better use of your time by making fun of how I spell, then by all means, go right ahead.

I did find the graded spelling post to be rather humorous, and it was rather flattering to know someone will waste that much time on my post to make a *** out of them selves.

Anyhow.Im not sure I got the whole point here, but im certain I got some of the point accrossed.

By the way ClawsandEffect, when have you ever cared to not be kind?

I look forward to the future posts guys.Back to my art room I go.

Why would these get you kicked from a team? These builds are not as uncommon as you think they are btw.

Uncommon doesn't = subpar build btw. Uncommon is really based on what you see as you can't know every character combo on your server. I've seen everything on your list btw and I play on Infinity. Just so you know Storm/Elec was a FoTM many years ago.

I don't play on freedom, but I've never seen people kicked off a team based on builds. I've seen people getting kicked heavily based on attitude though. During normal PUG paper/radio missions though? Never seen people kicked based on builds.

As far as MIDS goes, its an option.

Does it help? I personal find it very helpful.

Helps you plan IOs and new builds, but as I stated it's an option. No where is it stated you *MUST* use this program to play the game. It's your choice. I'm a min/maxer and love the IO system because it lets me push my toons beyond design. Nothing wrong with not using IOs as its always been an option.

You need to stop separating yourself from the general population. I know several players who do not use MIDS and still use SO's. You pay your fees, play how you want. You seem to be placing yourself into a "selected" box while excluding and insulting everyone else.

Gonna list my 50s so I can make a point.

Brutes: Elec/WP, SS/Fire, SS/WP, Dark/Fire, Dark/Stone, Stone/Energy, EM/SR, Fire/Shield

Stalkers: Elec/Nin, MA/Nin

MM: Necro/Traps, Necro/Storm, Thug/FF, Thug/Poison, Merc/Pain

Doms: Fire/Psi, Mind/Energy, Plant/Fire

Corrs: AR/Rad, Sonic/Traps, Rad/Pain, Dark/Kin, Arch/TA

SoA: Huntsman, Bane, Fortunata

Tanks: Dark/SS

Blasters: Fire/Mental

Defenders: Rad/Ice, Dark/Elec

Controllers: Fire/Rad, Earth/Thermal, Ill/TA, Plant/Storm

Scrapper: DM/Invun

Are they common? I don't care, I have fun playing them which is all that matters in the end.

Any team that's dumb enough to kick a FF Defender is probably not a team you wanted to be on anyway. For me, it probably would be - bad teams are my entertainment.

So you don't so much have an actual issue with Mids, you have an issue with people who take pool powers? I mean, unless you're using a random process for picking your powers, you're still planning your build, same as anyone who uses Mids.

Those people are inconsiderate jackasses.

Any AT played half-decently will roll over the Hellions, Maltas and Councils of this world.
I have a rule: let the person join the team and if they contribute, they can stick around. If they afk all mission or just don't do anything, they get a /t, if all they do is soak (unless it's an agreement between us) they get asked to leave.

Bring your FF/Dark, your AR/Fire, whatever you feel is fun at the time as long as you punch the bad guys and don't just leech.

ALso

Bear in mind that the following is a sweeping generalization. As such I may offend someone. Odds are, if I offend you with what I'm about to say, it doesn't apply to you and you've been caught up unfairly in my generalization. Accept my apologies and try to remember that it probably doesn't apply to you anyway.

Freedom has a lot of morons on it. Now, let me be fair here - every server has a lot of morons on it. Freedom has more players than most other servers, and so, by rights, we should expect to find a larger number of morons there, just by simple statistical proportions. However, it really feels like Freedom has more than its fair share or morons. Maybe that's because the sense of a community's... moronitude (yeah, I made that up) doesn't go up linearly with its actual proportion of morons. Maybe it's because a lot of moron players are also lemmings who instinctively flock to the greatest concentration of players. I don't know the full truth of it. I just know that while you can find morons on every server, they seem awfully easy to find on Freedom.

How you address the challenges described in my sweeping generalization have to be up to you. You can just one-star these people and use that to filter them out. You can try another server.

Whatever the case, you are probably falsely correlating people who use mids with the particular flavor of build biases you are meeting on Freedom. I know dozens of people who use mids and who would never treat a player like that. I know a few who couldn't build a character that could arrest its way out of a paper bag who think they know things they should kick from a team. Mid's isn't the problem.

Honestly, in 24 months playing before I left right after i14, I had exactly TWO distressing moments. And my playtime was like 85% Freedom / 15% Virtue.

The Freedom one was on a PUG Hess TF where the leader started arguing with a team member and nobody understood why (the team was doing fine). Then the leader kicked the guy, his buddy quit the TF because of this and for no apparent reason the leader herself quit shortly after. That left 3 of us in an 6-man mission with an AV... an Ice tanker, my mind/emp and a Ta/A def, we just couldn't finish the TF, couldn't handle the AV spawned for 6, especially since there was no SSK and both the tanker and the Ta/A def were sidekicked to the ones who quit. But hey, that's one person that freaked out and nobody knew the reason.

The Virtue one was on some story arc in the 20s where the leader thought he was leading a MoSTF. The Tanker was a bit slow so I started taking the alpha on my spines/dark and the energy blaster followed. We had no support and neither of us died, but the guy got angry because 'scrappers shouldn't take alphas' and 'the blaster shouldn't control the KB'. We tried to 'behave' but he went on annoying the blaster because of the KB (and he wasn't going nuts with Energy Torrent), I got annoyed waiting for the Tanker (he was really slow, I wasn't in scrapperlock, after all I had barely hit SOs) so both me and the blaster quit.

In another team there was a regen scrapper who dove on every pink mob before everybody else and died all the time, and kept yelling at my mind/emp to 'HEAL ME HEAL ME'. The leader thought I was doing a good job and kicked the scrapper.

And that's it, both my Freedom and Virtue experiences are very positive, including crazy stuff like a PUG Dr. Q TF that lasted 7 hours and we finished, in the end there were still 6 of us.

I don't consider myself a l33t player, but this game isn't hard (ok I found PvP quite hard but only did some arena kickballs where I felt lost and spent a lot of time in SC which I didn't find hard, and RV I had both good and very bad moments, but that was in i12, didn't bother trying i13 PvP because I'd have to change my builds a lot, and my ice/psi dom who relied in holds and slows isn't that effective now).

I've even received a lot of friend requests because I was told I was a 'great leader' and I don't think I was anything special leading teams. Even on Freedom SFs I assembled with my lolStalker (as I called my beloved Stalker before the i12 buff) I got friend requests in the end, and Stalkers were subpar on teams imo before the buff.

I generally try not to comment or critique on someone's spelling/grammar/composition unless it's so bad that it causes problems with my ability to understand what is being said. However, this is a print medium and those who point out the fact that the OP's posts are replete with errors have a valid point.

No one really expects perfection in composition on an internet forum (well, most people don't), but by the same token if you throw together a really sloppy post then it reflects poorly upon you. It suggests a sloppy or disorganized thought process, or that you simply don't care enough about what you are saying to construct a coherent sentence. If you yourself don't care about what you have to say, why should anyone else?

Maybe some folks that didn't like your posts found out your global and formed a secret society in game just to invite your toons and kick them out of spite, and also stand in Atlas with all the same builds?

Other than that I got nothing. Those build you listed aren't sub-par, some not even uncommon. I think there are just people out to "get you."

Your posts make you seem a bit like a sociopath of a gamer. In other words, most of your posts always illustrate you as some kind of pristine martyr that is harassed and persecuted without relent by some flawed and angry mob. Normally when someone is always arguing that everyone else is the problem- that person is the problem. It's like they say, when you point a finger at someone else, three fingers are pointing back at you, and one is pointing at God.

My advice: stop allowing yourself to be consumed with what other people are doing in their homes with their own game time and personal lives. It is clearly ruffling your feathers and making your game experience less fun than it has been before. Don't allow other people to devalue your playing experience.

Stop trying to understand other gamers- you don't seem to be exactly receptive to tolerating views that contradict with your own. Why should anyone waste time trying to explain the merits or utility of MIDS when you have made it unmistakably and irreversibly clear that you despise the program and anyone that uses it? There is no point in having a conversation if you already have your mind made up about the subject.