Rikti Drones - Dodgy Little Bastards
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Posted on: 2010-03-19 14:27 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
The have high melee and ranged defence.
Hit them with an AOE typed attack if you can. Cuts right through.
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Open up your Combat Attributes and monitor "Last Hit Chance".
When you're fighting drones this will show you which attacks their defence works against.
Even 360 degrees melee attacks like Spin, Whilrling Hands and Whilrling Mace count as Melee rather than AoE, so melee characters can get pretty stuffed fighting these guys on their own. Use insp combining to create yellows, I guess.
Damage auras count as AoE, as does Burn, which the drones dont run away from 
Drones have 35% Ranged and Melee defense so hitting a +0 Drone is about like hitting a +4 normal Rikti... not really that bad if you're set up to fight higher level enemies, but painful otherwise. Aim or Build Up helps a lot. Also, if you use a Kismet 6% Accuracy IO (which is actually a 6% to-hit bonus), good accuracy slotting, and some accuracy bonuses from sets you can reliably hit the slippery little things without any buffs. If you are only using SOs and you don't have Aim or Build Up handy, pop yellows or hope you have some AoEs...
(Note that none of the drones actually have any kind of elude style mode, but since their normal defense can drop you into the 50-60% to hit chance range it's quite possible to miss one several times in a row.)
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Originally Posted by Catwhoorg
The have high melee and ranged defence.
Hit them with an AOE typed attack if you can. Cuts right through. |
Indeed. They explode so prettily if you can hit them all at once with some good AOEs.
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Drones are the worst of the Rikti.
A) They have marvelous reception, and once they attack, the whole mob can see you.
B) For the reason stated, their high defense to melee and range.
C) They look like a floating tripod ready to snap a picture of me...
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Drones have no more perception than any other normal enemy. What Drones do have (which they share with Rularuu Sentries) is that they ignore stealth completely.|
Originally Posted by Legend_Light
They have marvelous reception, and once they attack, the whole mob can see you.
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A critter with higher perception will aggro on you from a long way off (see: snipers, with 149ft perception). Drones don't aggro from far away, but they also don't care how many different forms of stealth you have stacked together; they'll still see you once you come into range.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Drones have no more perception than any other normal enemy. What Drones do have (which they share with Rularuu Sentries) is that they ignore stealth completely.
A critter with higher perception will aggro on you from a long way off (see: snipers, with 149ft perception). Drones don't aggro from far away, but they also don't care how many different forms of stealth you have stacked together; they'll still see you once you come into range. |
I'd imagine the drones are pretty frustrated about all those heroes out there they can't kill.
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Yah, AOE's get em pretty good
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This said, a Stalker can Placate a drone from just outside its detection range. Just watch out if there's more than one drone.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Drones have no more perception than any other normal enemy. What Drones do have (which they share with Rularuu Sentries) is that they ignore stealth completely.
A critter with higher perception will aggro on you from a long way off (see: snipers, with 149ft perception). Drones don't aggro from far away, but they also don't care how many different forms of stealth you have stacked together; they'll still see you once you come into range. |
Drones .. I HATE drones! lol They are very hard to take down and add in the fact that they have outstanding perception since they are one of a very few things that can see through my Superior Invisibility (Controllers) and Hide (Stalkers).
As mentioned AoE attacks seem to work and I have had good success with fire. The flamethrower my AR Blaster uses cuts through them (of course that is an AoE attack) and DP's incendary bullets work as well. I find the best way to deal with them is to let them kill each other I simply confuse them(with my Ill Troller of course) and let them shoot one another. LOL
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Rain of Arrows works extremely well. Fire it off with aim or Build Up and it obliterates even +1 or +2 drones (as well as any other minions in the group), and you can follow it up with an Explosive Arrow for higher level ones if need be. Plus the fireworks when you get a bunch of drones blowing up at the same time are fun to watch. |
Originally Posted by Wicked_Wendy
As mentioned AoE attacks seem to work and I have had good success with fire. The flamethrower my AR Blaster uses cuts through them (of course that is an AoE attack) and DP's incendary bullets work as well. I find the best way to deal with them is to let them kill each other I simply confuse them(with my Ill Troller of course) and let them shoot one another. LOL
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Hail of Bullets works well too (for Blasters) if you are using the Fire epic pool. Jump into the spawn, hit HoB, and by the time you faceplant the drones should be injured enough for Rise of the Phoenix to finish them off.
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I was quite sure that Whirling Sword could hit Drones that Hack missed. Upon going out in the RWZ and testing this, it turns out to be either selection bias or having a lot more targets for Invincibility (thus more +To Hit)... you're right. |
Originally Posted by DrMike2000
Open up your Combat Attributes and monitor "Last Hit Chance".
When you're fighting drones this will show you which attacks their defence works against. Even 360 degrees melee attacks like Spin, Whilrling Hands and Whilrling Mace count as Melee rather than AoE, so melee characters can get pretty stuffed fighting these guys on their own. Use insp combining to create yellows, I guess. Damage auras count as AoE, as does Burn, which the drones dont run away from |
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Eh, I never wasted the placate. Hit some yellows (MA/SR,) run up and hit them as I go past. Might eat a shot or two, but kept the placate ready if needed for whatever was with them.
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Originally Posted by Zamuel
This said, a Stalker can Placate a drone from just outside its detection range. Just watch out if there's more than one drone.
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I always wondered why it seemed like Shield Bash just ends ALL of them at once, every time, but i could stand there miss 5 or 6 shots in a row on ONE drone in the next spawn... Huh. Now I know.. and knowing is half the battle. |
Originally Posted by Catwhoorg
The have high melee and ranged defence.
Hit them with an AOE typed attack if you can. Cuts right through. |
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Well, of course taking the Wiki as gospel is always dangerous but ...|
Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Drones have no more perception than any other normal enemy. What Drones do have (which they share with Rularuu Sentries) is that they ignore stealth completely.
A critter with higher perception will aggro on you from a long way off (see: snipers, with 149ft perception). Drones don't aggro from far away, but they also don't care how many different forms of stealth you have stacked together; they'll still see you once you come into range. |
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Originally Posted by ParagonWiki
In addition to having a much larger than normal Perception radius, Snipers and Rikti Drones are reported by some to ignore Stealth completely. Current testing with Nemesis snipers (Aug-2008), shows that Snipers do not ignore Stealth. Testing as of March 2010 indicates Rikti Drones can see through 240' stealth at ~10'.
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Originally Posted by Bubblerella
It's like the forth of July
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Looking at the page history, Generalbusybody and Alisson. Generalbusybody in 2008 and Alisson in 2010. As noted by the page, though, base perception is defined by rank - Snipers have a rank of "Sniper" and a corresponding base perception of 149. Aside from rank, the only way for a critter to gain extra perception is a power granting +Perception. You can easily notice this with Vanguard Sword, who all have +Perception on self, and they will aggro on you from an abnormally far distance. Unless you have high stealth, Snipers and Turrets will also aggro on you from abnormally far away.|
Originally Posted by Tyrrano
Well, of course taking the Wiki as gospel is always dangerous but ...
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Snipers do aggro at range, they do have increased perception based on rank, and they do respect stealth powers, assuming you have enough (for example, Hide). Rikti Drones and Rularuu Sentries do not aggro at an extensive range, but they do aggro at normal range, regardless of your stealth radius.
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You can also use the power analyzer (or surveillance) and look for yourself: drones have a 45' perception radius. It's just not affected by stealth.
As for the Placate... it's a nice trick if there's only one drone and you want to (reliably - since a purple will work just as well most times on a defensive set) get off an AS on something in the spawn (or sneak by to an objective), but on my Elec/Nin I just LRod into the group and then play. I'm more likely to use the Placate on the one mob that always seems to be facing the glowie from within perception range when the rest of the spawn is in a spot where they wouldn't aggro.
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yup, those drones are down right alergic to shield charge.
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On two characters now, i've single-handedly witnessed drones that seemingly can dodge anything and take longer to kill because of their magical dodge.
So the quest, insane defense i'm just not able to overcome with inspirations, or some inherent "ha ha, you mised me" I just have to suffer through?
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