Increase PVP IO Drop rate

i do not disagree with you, yet i have to go with what i saw.
again, i saw it, and it happened. be the rational person like i intend to be and check it out.
maybe someone with a red name could positively confirm or deny this possibility.

p.s. lunar hawk (on virtue), if you are out there, you also were witness.

It happened on either saturday or sunday of this past week on virtue in the arena set 47-50. rated. We had about 10 people in that fight. My toon at the time was either breezy sparrowhawk, hot lil number, or elijah blake.

we were broadcasting on the main virtue channels.

why are people so quick to say no if they do not know with 100 percent accuracy?

I've seen crazier stuff happen in this game. Once I entered a mish solo and someone was already in there.

In 10 zone kills yesterday I got ANOTHER PVP IO. Drop rate is not broken.

I sent a PM to a DEV to ask if this is a possibility.

I doubt it myself, but it seems remotely possible.
I, for one, have gotten a mission ending drop that was in a different pool.
I have also gotten a purple for completing an ITF.
I tend to believe you, and every instance I mention may be false, but I have to wonder based on my past game experiences.

Probably either a bug or he had it prior, but it is worth checking. It would happen so rarely that it probably could not be reproduced with relyability.

again, it could be a nice incentive!!! just sayin'

One of, if not the best selling point for PvP IO's to the PvErs is the fact that the PvP IO's exemp down like purples. Personally I think they should drop that for the PvErs and make it work only in PvP zones. That way the demand would fall a bit making the prices drop as well (in theory).

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PM'd Castle about my purple drop issue...
"To my understanding, PVE Purples cannot drop off of PVP targets. "
I take his word for it....

So, is it the current understanding that drop rates average out to be about 1 for every 200 kills or so? if so, would that make it that you have a 0.5% chance per kill? Purple's, per Top Doc's thread "the purple answer" says 1 every 1500 minions or so.

What is the deal if this is so?

It is MUCH easier and MUCH quicker to kill 1500 NPCs than 200 opponents (assuming that both numbers are accurate).

NPCs just stand there, or even come at you based on the aggro rules. Players run away, phase, heal, and do everything in their power to avoid dying. You might spend an entire match, or all night in a zone, trying to kill a player and fail.

How many NPCs can you kill in an hour? How many PvPers can you kill in an hour?

This is why the only "sane" way of obtaining PvPIOs is to have a free-for-all where you take turns, like medic did, or overnight farming between two or more accounts in a zone as others have described.

I think a 1 in 50 PvP kill drop rate (2% chance) would probably seem about right for drops in true fights, but it would make farming ridiculously easy. And that is why the drop rate is unlikely to change.

It's a funny little conundrum: players farm them because that's the only reasonable way to get them, but the developers will never increase the drop rate to something reasonable because then farming them would be too easy.

That's why I am in favor of adding PvPIOs to the Siren's Bounty Market and allow bounty to be saved. Whether bounty should be earned in other zones is open to debate.

Doing so will make Siren's Call hop again and allow an alternative way to obtain PvPIOs that is directly related to PvP while keeping it difficult to farm. While you could still have a group take turns killing each other, they are bound to be attacked by other groups looking to collect bounty. Since bounty is based off of reputation and the bonus for taking out the game-named bounty, overnight farms would probably be less effective. Siren's is a smaller zone with less hiding places and more tough, roving NPCs that make it less than ideal for overnight farms.

Oh, and you would still have a chance to get lucky and have one drop for you.

I'm not advocating removing PvPIOs from arena or anywhere else. Leave them exactly as it is now, but ADD a new level to the Bounty game in Sirens that allows you to cash in bounty for a PvPIO.

Right now, you can trade in reputation for inspirations or an SO. That was pretty good when there were no IOs and Siren's call was the only place to get Strength of Will inspirations. But now that Mez is not resistible and few people use SO builds, that reward table is pure trash.