Discussion - Ultra Mode, Issue 17: Dark Mirror and Going Rogue!
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Posted on: 2010-02-09 10:50 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Do they ever when it comes to things like this?|
Originally Posted by F_M_J
Because that is a common perk among pre-orders, access to beta.
Well, they didn't say it was for only live servers either. |
I can't remember them ever not putting "on the test server" after something intended for the test server.
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Could someone please post what the hardware requirements will be for best performance with Ultra Mode? I would like to know if I need a video card upgrade or not. Thanks! 
Has it been said yet if we will be able to pre-order the Collector's Edition? I'd assume we would, but due to the wording of the annoucement it makes me wonder.
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Originally Posted by AZPete
Could someone please post what the hardware requirements will be for best performance with Ultra Mode? I would like to know if I need a video card upgrade or not. Thanks!
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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=200245
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But they do auto level characters quite frequently in beta testing. They won't do it immediately and they generally do it in several stages. After a couple of days they'll bump the desired powersets/what-have-you to somewhere in the 30s and then generally sometime the next week they'll bump to 50. They've been doing it every time they add a powerset for quite a while actually.|
Originally Posted by F_M_J
FOh, and for your information, No, they don't just auto-level toons for high level testing.
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I really think they're saying if you pre-pay you get the powersets on live. I mean, they're already in beta for Dual Pistols, I mean just how long do you think it takes to test just one powerset at a time (especially without any other accompanying issue related testing)? Plus for at least a bit of time I would imagine the test server will be down for testing of at least I17, unless you're suggesting that pre-purchase is a guaranteed in to closed beta testing of that (and possibly GR) at the earliest stages I can guarantee you people would raise holy-hell that the character they, "Paid good money for," is currently unplayable.
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How much will that translate to in £s and €s? For those of us who live outside the US.
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Originally Posted by Niviene
Well, you have the opportunity to get access to the Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning power sets in March and April, if you pre purchase City of Heroes Going Rogue (MSRP $29.99 USD)! You will also be able to get your hands on an exclusive item pack if you get the City of Heroes Going Rogue: Complete Collection (MSRP $39.99 USD), that will be available when Going Rogue releases in July!
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Okay, dude, I can tell you've been burned by assuming too much, but the Dual Pistols Beta Test is going on *right now*. If by "Pre-order and get early access to DP" they meant "access to DP on the Test Server", why would they say "get early access to DP in March" and not "get early access to DP *right now*"?
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Originally Posted by F_M_J
If it hasn't been asked... does pre-ordering allow you to get your hands on Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning early on the Live servers
No, it does not. Many people assume, but it has not been clarified by a red name yet, and the wording is quite ambiguous. |
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Originally Posted by Silver Gale
Okay, dude, I can tell you've been burned by assuming too much, but the Dual Pistols Beta Test is going on *right now*. If by "Pre-order and get early access to DP" they meant "access to DP on the Test Server", why would they say "get early access to DP in March" and not "get early access to DP *right now*"?
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Just to explain my thought process, and not to beat a dead horse, but to answer your question is because the Beta is being done in stages, and pre-orders get in on the second stage, not the first stage that is going on now, or so my thought process went.
And yes, enough of people quoting my same responses and answering them in the same way, really, if you aren't going to post something different than the dozen people before you, then just don't.
when can we pre-order? Have they set a date yet? I'm webbernettin' it but not finding any info.
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Here's something nobody has adressed and it bugs me. Where do you get the impression that if Dual Pistols was released Live four months before Going Rogue, it would be taken away again after two months? |
Originally Posted by F_M_J
So I refer you to your own last paragraph. Use comon sense, do you really think NCSoft plans on releasing just one powerset of a whole expansion 4 months before it actually goes live, just for 2 months, and then take it away for 2 months, and then give it back again when the expansion is finally live in July? Really?
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And since Dual Pistols testing is being done right now, before any other part of GR, doesn't it make sense they might release it before any other part of GR? That way we can roll our Dual Pistols Heroes and Villains and level them up while we wait for the actual expansion to hit.
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To answer your question, my thought process was that they said you would get access to them for March and April, but does not mention May or June. Why would they say you just have access to them for March and April, and not May and June. I would think they would just say March through July, or something like that. |
Originally Posted by Silver Gale
Here's something nobody has adressed and it bugs me. Where do you get the impression that if Dual Pistols was released Live four months before Going Rogue, it would be taken away again after two months?
And since Dual Pistols testing is being done right now, before any other part of GR, doesn't it make sense they might release it before any other part of GR? That way we can roll our Dual Pistols Heroes and Villains and level them up while we wait for the actual expansion to hit. |
This is why I really hate ambiguous statements, since a devout believer and a hard core skeptic can take the same statement and come to two vastly different conclusions.
It just seems extremely weird to me that they would release 2 of the biggest key features of an expansion so early. That would seem to be akin to World of Warcraft releasing the Death Knight class 4 months before Wrath of the Lich King was released.
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Okay, fair enough. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Originally Posted by F_M_J
To answer your question, my thought process was that they said you would get access to them for March and April, but does not mention May or June. Why would they say you just have access to them for March and April, and not May and June. I would think they would just say March through July, or something like that.
This is why I really hate ambiguous statements, since a devout believer and a hard core skeptic can take the same statement and come to two vastly different conclusions. It just seems extremely weird to me that they would release 2 of the biggest key features of an expansion so early. That would seem to be akin to World of Warcraft releasing the Death Knight class 4 months before Wrath of the Lich King was released. |
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Also, to be clear, I really do hope I am wrong. I have been waiting for many years to get a Dual Pistols powerset, and will be pre-ordering the moment it becomes available. 
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They meant that if you pre-order during March or April, you get Dual Pistols. If you have dual pistols, they will not take them away for two months. That's just nonsensical. If you pre-order in May or June, I assume you do not get the Dual Pistols or Demon Summoning unlocked.|
Originally Posted by F_M_J
To answer your question, my thought process was that they said you would get access to them for March and April, but does not mention May or June. Why would they say you just have access to them for March and April, and not May and June. I would think they would just say March through July, or something like that.
This is why I really hate ambiguous statements, since a devout believer and a hard core skeptic can take the same statement and come to two vastly different conclusions. It just seems extremely weird to me that they would release 2 of the biggest key features of an expansion so early. That would seem to be akin to World of Warcraft releasing the Death Knight class 4 months before Wrath of the Lich King was released. |
I think it's odd that you think that two powersets for existing classes are two of the biggest features of the expansion.
I would think all the New archtypes for the new beginning zone, the New beginning zone itself, the fact that all the tutorials are going through an upgrade, being able to switch sides, a massive graphics upgrade, new costume pieces, badges, missions, and stories are all more substantial than two powersets which have been in the rumor mill for two years now.
By giving us access to the Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning early, they are simply giving us a small taste of all the goodies that are to come!
Given it was said that DP will be 'in time to level throughout the DXP weekend', I would assume it was on live.
DS, not so sure about.
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To answer your questions,|
Originally Posted by Gothenem
They meant that if you pre-order during March or April, you get Dual Pistols. If you have dual pistols, they will not take them away for two months. That's just nonsensical. If you pre-order in May or June, I assume you do not get the Dual Pistols or Demon Summoning unlocked.
I think it's odd that you think that two powersets for existing classes are two of the biggest features of the expansion. I would think all the New archtypes for the new beginning zone, the New beginning zone itself, the fact that all the tutorials are going through an upgrade, being able to switch sides, a massive graphics upgrade, new costume pieces, badges, missions, and stories are all more substantial than two powersets which have been in the rumor mill for two years now. By giving us access to the Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning early, they are simply giving us a small taste of all the goodies that are to come! |
Yes, I do think those are two of the best things to come out of this expansion, aside from swapping sides. Also, those two power sets got the most "oohhs" and "ahhhs" at Hero Con as well.
As for there being new level 1-20 content, I am not that excited about since they have already drastically increased the leveling speed from 1-20 it will go by very fast.
Costume Pieces, yeah..those are fine, but not "OMG, YES!!" quality material for most people. Yes, I know many will be over joyed with it, I am just giving MY opinion on it.
The "massive graphics upgrade" is nice, however given the average player of this game will not be able to use it at its highest settings, and possibly not even its mid level settings, I would say it is a nice addition, and personally I like it, but many will not even be able to run it without having to spend more money to upgrade their systems. One of the best things about CoX was that it was able to run well with bells and whistles on with a relatively low to mid level computer system.
what new Archetypes? There are no new archetypes that I am aware of, and if you are thinking of Rogue, Vigilante, etc those are not Archetypes. Archetype is like Blaster, Scrapper, Tank, Stalker, Dominator, etc.
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| If you pre-order in May or June, I assume you do not get the Dual Pistols or Demon Summoning unlocked. |
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That's because it was refering to Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning - DP is beta tested in February for a live server release in March, and DS is beta tested in March for a lvie server release in April.
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Originally Posted by F_M_J
To answer your question, my thought process was that they said you would get access to them for March and April, but does not mention May or June. Why would they say you just have access to them for March and April, and not May and June. I would think they would just say March through July, or something like that.
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DS is for April - only DP will be available for the 2XP weekend.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Given it was said that DP will be 'in time to level throughout the DXP weekend', I would assume it was on live.
DS, not so sure about. |
@Golden Girl
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You will - March is just the earliest you can get DP, and April is the earliest for DS.
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Originally Posted by Gothenem
They meant that if you pre-order during March or April, you get Dual Pistols. If you have dual pistols, they will not take them away for two months. That's just nonsensical. If you pre-order in May or June, I assume you do not get the Dual Pistols or Demon Summoning unlocked.
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@Golden Girl
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*beats head against desk*
So, we've lapped the information we were given and have gone straight to making things up? GG is right. You don't get to play either DP or DS, unless you buy GR. But if you buy GR, you can play them both early. Early as in nearly-right-now, not when GR goes live. DP will be live for DXP, DS afterwards (April-ish).
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Ultra Mode is coming before GR; slated for issue 17... so the 2 most talked about selling points are seeming to be made available before full release (graphics and powersets). I'm not sure what the storyline for I17 is, however, if it's any kind of a lead-up into GR; then we may see GR NPCs beforehand as well (possibly even a couple of new tilesets)
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Originally Posted by Gothenem
They meant that if you pre-order during March or April, you get Dual Pistols. If you have dual pistols, they will not take them away for two months. That's just nonsensical. If you pre-order in May or June, I assume you do not get the Dual Pistols or Demon Summoning unlocked.
I think it's odd that you think that two powersets for existing classes are two of the biggest features of the expansion. I would think all the New archtypes for the new beginning zone, the New beginning zone itself, the fact that all the tutorials are going through an upgrade, being able to switch sides, a massive graphics upgrade, new costume pieces, badges, missions, and stories are all more substantial than two powersets which have been in the rumor mill for two years now. By giving us access to the Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning early, they are simply giving us a small taste of all the goodies that are to come! |
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Praetoria and the endgame system are quite good selling points |
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Ultra Mode is coming before GR; slated for issue 17... so the 2 most talked about selling points are seeming to be made available before full release (graphics and powersets).
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Yep yep. The end game system sounds really intriguing. Also.......i'm still hoping we get some demon summoning pics or video or something real real soon.I'm so anxious to see how strong it'll be.
btw......I still want zeus lightning......
Oh, and for your information, No, they don't just auto-level toons for high level testing.
And yes, DXP applies to both Test and Live servers which is what Avatea was referring to.
You, on the other hand, are completely factually incorrect when you claim that there is no auto-leveling during beta. It is known as a "level-bump" and happened for both Willpower and Electrical Armor/Melee at a minimum. I'm pretty sure it has happened for other sets (and EATs) too, but I know it happened for the aforementioned, since I was there for it.