lol, considering some of the toons I've seen before, I think you'd get away with it.
I used to have a plant/psy dom named B.C Skunk. No one had a problem with it. Ya never know tho, some may have a lower tolerence than others (lol bad pun)
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Originally Posted by firespray
I had a cool character concept idea this morning. I wanted to make an illusion controller who has the ability to bring his dreams to life in the real world. To fuel his abilities while awake, he takes a lot of hallucinogenic drugs. The character will likely have references to drugs in both his name and backstory. I'm wondering though if this is likely to get me generic'd for violating the code of conduct. Anyone know?
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So long as it's not offensive, per se, it should be ok.
I mean, the game world itself references harmfl (if made up) drugs like Dyne and Rage. I guess if you dont name realworld drugs and such. Nice concept, too IMO =P
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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I had a stone tank named Stoner Barbie and she was Genericed in a day... and she was a Stone... the reference was to that fact...
I checked the user agreement and it doesn't specifically disallow drug references. So I guess it's up to whichever GM gets the complaint if there is one.
I'll just give it a shot I guess. I suppose the worst that'll happen is I get generic'd and have to rename the character.
Being a T rated game, I would suggest not using actual drug names. Using catagories like "psychadelics" or "hallucinagin" might be okay though. It depends on if anyone reports you, and then, on the discretion of the support person that sees the petition.
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Originally Posted by beyeajus74018
lol, considering some of the toons I've seen before, I think you'd get away with it.
I used to have a plant/psy dom named B.C Skunk. No one had a problem with it. Ya never know tho, some may have a lower tolerence than others (lol bad pun) |
And, uhhh, what the heck is that name supposed to reference? I am at work, else I would just look it up (afraid of what I might find).
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Originally Posted by Pimpstress_Bambi
I had a stone tank named Stoner Barbie and she was Genericed in a day... and she was a Stone... the reference was to that fact...
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Oh right so you don't know what Skunk is but you know what a Stoner is? 
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A Stoner is easy to know! Its someone who uses stone-based powers! There is a few tankers/brutes/trollers around that can be stoners!
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Originally Posted by Phantom Patriot
Oh right so you don't know what Skunk is but you know what a Stoner is?
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Originally Posted by Phantom Patriot
Oh right so you don't know what Skunk is but you know what a Stoner is?
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I have a brute named Power Stoned too. =P StM/ElA
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I know what a "stoner" is, but I have no idea how "skunk" relates to drugs. I'd also never heard the term "sweetleaf" refer to drugs, or tea for that matter.|
Originally Posted by Phantom Patriot
Oh right so you don't know what Skunk is but you know what a Stoner is?
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Also, there was a thread on here in the last month I believe about someone using the name Roll a J getting genericed. So despite it not being excplicity forbidden, if you use a drug reference in the name of your character, expect to eventually loose the name of that character.
Here's a suggestion - call him something like "Shattered Dreamer" and just mention the hallucinogens in his bio. That is far less likely to draw the generic bat.
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Yes, exactly right.|
Originally Posted by Phantom Patriot
Oh right so you don't know what Skunk is but you know what a Stoner is?
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I have heard the word "stoner" used in reference to drug users for as long as I can remember. Today, is the first time I have ever heard the term "skunk" used in regard to drugs. If it seems silly to you.. well, so be it. Even my college neighbor who sold pot never used the term in front of me... nor did my other friend who was constantly toking in his dorm room and smelling of Fritos.
I gave it a shot. Mescaline Dreams was created this morning. If he gets generic'd it's not the end of the world.
If you want to use a drug name in the bio, just use Superadine. That should be safe, seeing how it's already in the story line of the game. lol
Yeah, you should have your backup name chosen well in advance.
"Drugs are bad, mmmkay?" is one of the things that almost every comic everywhere has agreed on for the last eighty years. It's up there with "Protagonists can throw cars" in the comic consensual reality. ( My standard-reality beliefs are less rigid, but... drugs actually ARE bad. Mmmkay?)
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You would certainly be vulnerable to it, if reported. The EULA is explicit on the subject.
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Originally Posted by firespray
I had a cool character concept idea this morning. I wanted to make an illusion controller who has the ability to bring his dreams to life in the real world. To fuel his abilities while awake, he takes a lot of hallucinogenic drugs. The character will likely have references to drugs in both his name and backstory. I'm wondering though if this is likely to get me generic'd for violating the code of conduct. Anyone know?
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My scrapper doesn't need an AoE. She IS an AoE.
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Can you provide the text of this? I searched it and didn't find anything.
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Originally Posted by BBhumeBB
You would certainly be vulnerable to it, if reported. The EULA is explicit on the subject.
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Taken from here: http://us.ncsoft.com/en/legal/user-a...agreement.html| (e) Character Name. In order to use the Service, you must create a character and choose a name for your character to identify your character to other Members (your "Character Name"). You may not select as your Character Name the name of another person, or a name which violates any third party's trademark right, copyright, or other proprietary right, or which may mislead other players to believe you to be an employee of NC Interactive, or which NC Interactive deems at its sole discretion to be vulgar or otherwise offensive. NC Interactive reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to (1) delete or alter any Character Name or (2) terminate any license granted herein, for any reason whatsoever, including, without limitation, any suspected or actual infringement of any trademark or trade name right, copyright, or other proprietary right. |
To the OP: Before you click {I Agree} to enter the game, scroll down and read this. Then decide what you think it means and act accordingly.
While drugs aren't specificly mentioned, the company gives itself plenty of room.
The term "at it's sole discretion" gives the company the right to decide what it wants in it's game, and no amount of clever "what I really meant by that was..." or "But *I* don't think it's inappropriate amongst MY friends..." is going to prevail over what is going on in their game.
Yes, we pay the $15 cover charge every month, but they hire the bouncers to toss out anyone they think is going to pee on thier dance floor.
ALSO: If you find yourself generic'ed, check your out-of-game Email (the one registered with the game). You should see an Email from the company regarding the situation. Respond with 1-3 names that you would like Generic2345343 to have (in order of preference) and they will give you one of those, if they fit within the letter or the spirit of the rules.
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Originally Posted by firespray
Can you provide the text of this? I searched it and didn't find anything.
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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There's a clause in the EULA that lets them generic names they find offensive or vulgar.|
Originally Posted by firespray
Can you provide the text of this? I searched it and didn't find anything.
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From part 4.e. of the EULA:
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
There is no such rule written into the EULA. The EULA says:
... However, that last bit, "deems at its sole discretion to be vulgar or otherwise offensive," covers... well, anything the GM wants it to cover. |
It would be kind of nice if they changed that to give some examples of what they consider 'vulgar or otherwise offensive' so people have some guidelines.
This topic comes up often enough, and the general consensus is usually "If you have to ask, then you already know that you're trying to push the line."
I think that it could be clearer by including "drug references" in the contract if they are going to include drug references in thier criteria, but that's just me and my desire for clarity and accuracy in documentation. I'm a silly little piggy that way.
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Originally Posted by Pimpstress_Bambi
I had a stone tank named Stoner Barbie and she was Genericed in a day... and she was a Stone... the reference was to that fact...
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Generally it's a judgment call by the GM if a report is made, and if you feel it was unfair you can appeal it and possibly get the decision reversed. i've known of several who had their names restored after a review.
Generally the GM's are not sympathetic to names that are considered references to real world illegal drugs, the type players might actually be able to use, but if you can explain that there are equally obvious non-drug meanings to the name it's possible to retain the name.
i constantly see people with names that are blatant references to marijuana and stoner culture if you are familiar with the sources. While i don't find marijuana very interesting, i know a lot of people who do. Amusingly enough, some of the dumbest, tritest and most pointless names i see for characters are the marijuana reference names. i actually prefer the names be left and never report them myself. It makes for an easier warning flag than player notes as to whether the player will be competent or interesting when teamed. (No, i don't think all marijuana users are dumb or incompetent, or i wouldn't be acquainted with so many of them, but it does tend to amplify those traits in those who are slow and dull already. Stoner names are an alert of sorts (that the name user might not be), not an automatic reason to avoid.
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
Yes, exactly right.
I have heard the word "stoner" used in reference to drug users for as long as I can remember. Today, is the first time I have ever heard the term "skunk" used in regard to drugs. If it seems silly to you.. well, so be it. Even my college neighbor who sold pot never used the term in front of me... nor did my other friend who was constantly toking in his dorm room and smelling of Fritos. |
I don't know if many in the States or UK are familiar, but BC Skunk is in reference to a stinky, danky, pretty potent type of marijuana from British Columbia, Canada. There ya go, learn something new everyday
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That's a pretty good point actually. I've got a character named Miss Morphine who made it to level 50 with no problems whatsoever. Mescaline actually presents an interesting case then, since its legal status is not real clear (it's legal in some places for some uses and not legal in others).
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Originally Posted by Schismatrix
Generally the GM's are not sympathetic to names that are considered references to real world illegal drugs
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I had a cool character concept idea this morning. I wanted to make an illusion controller who has the ability to bring his dreams to life in the real world. To fuel his abilities while awake, he takes a lot of hallucinogenic drugs. The character will likely have references to drugs in both his name and backstory. I'm wondering though if this is likely to get me generic'd for violating the code of conduct. Anyone know?