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Drug references against the rules?

Aggelakis

By Aggelakis,
Posted on: 2010-01-24 03:59 in Player Questions

 

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Originally Posted by NordBlast View Post
My friend had toon with Sweetleaf in the name. While it can reference tea or tobacco, besides drugs, it was gen'd nevertheless.
Someone doesnt like Sabbath pehaps??? Shame shame...as if they'd Gen. that though...Ive seen alot stronger references than that and are still going strong. Guess theres some Chronic ***** disturbers out there....I say go for it...

 

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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven View Post
Being a T rated game, I would suggest not using actual drug names. Using catagories like "psychadelics" or "hallucinagin" might be okay though. It depends on if anyone reports you, and then, on the discretion of the support person that sees the petition.


Well... then they should be petitioned, IMO. Just because others are worse, doesn't mean yours will be okay... that's just stupid "logic."

And, uhhh, what the heck is that name supposed to reference? I am at work, else I would just look it up (afraid of what I might find).


Deservedly so. And if you expect us to believe you had not a single thought as to what "stoner" means to most people... well...


Ummm so you dont actually KNOW what BC Skunk is referencing but you Think it should still be petitioned IYHO???? Thats rather 'strange' Logic No??

 

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Ummm so you dont actually KNOW what BC Skunk is referencing but you Think it should still be petitioned IYHO???? Thats rather 'strange' Logic No??
No. It isn't strange at all. You are choosing to misinterpret what Thirty-Seven said. He wouldn't have petitioned the name because he didn't know it's meaning. It would have gone unnoticed.

However someone that does recognise it has every right to petition it if they feel it's inappropriate. Then it's up to the GM's to decide if the gen-stick is warranted

When we choose to use a risque name we have no right getting upset if someone else doesn't share our sense of humor. We know the rules and we have no one to blame but ourselves. It's our decision what name we try to get past the censors.

 

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Someone doesnt like Sabbath pehaps??? Shame shame...as if they'd Gen. that though...Ive seen alot stronger references than that and are still going strong. Guess theres some Chronic ***** disturbers out there....I say go for it...
Can't use 'chronic' either.


Try, "Medicinal Use Only Man".

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Originally Posted by Zombie Man View Post
Can't use 'chronic' either.


Try, "Medicinal Use Only Man".
Can't use 'masturbator' either.



Try, "Medicinal Use Only Self-Pleasuring Man".

Seriously though, the word 'chronic' does have an array of common usages outside of a type of drug.

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Originally Posted by Schismatrix View Post
Can't use 'masturbator' either.



Try, "Medicinal Use Only Self-Pleasuring Man".
Won't fit. Too long. (No pun intended)
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Self-Service
Man-Handler
AutoEroticon (A masturbating robot?)
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Lotion Motion (That one could be a Super-Speeder?)
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Seriously though, the word 'chronic' does have an array of common usages outside of a type of drug.
Such as "A Chronic disease is one that is long-lasting or recurrent", examples being Chronic Dry Eye, Chronic Diarrhea and Chronic Renal Failure.

Which brings us back to drug references if we go with Chronic Red Eye?

 

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Originally Posted by Pimpstress_Bambi View Post
I had a stone tank named Stoner Barbie and she was Genericed in a day... and she was a Stone... the reference was to that fact...
Actually the "Barbie" part may have been the sticking point.

In referrence to 'druggie' culture naming or any other naming; we all run the risk of Genericing as has been stated. It is the GM's decision. Of course, then there is the ability to appeal said judgment, but the initial Generic can be as arbitrary as the GM. The EULA is as specifically vague as can be to allow them the leeway necessary to keep the game within the specifications to maintain its present rating. Cant fault a business for that. Actually, I feel that businesses should be allowed even stricter rules, but living on the 'Left Coast'; I have learned to live within the strictures of the PC (and I dont mean Personal Computer) culture.

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I think Mescaline Dreams is a very classy name for the concept.

Mescaline is not widely in use these days. I've mostly heard of it in reference to people like Timothy Leary or Aldous Huxley experimenting with it in the sense of actually believing they mind find something of scientific or artistic merit. In a universe of flying people, psychic powers, magic etc the idea that this leads to an Illusion Controller type character makes sense.

You're very unlikely to run into people in game who use mescaline, or know a family member who has RL issues relating to mescaline and get upset about it. Its about as relevant to todays issues as a Victorian villain called The Laudanum Fiend would be.

Its a completely different kettle of fish from joke names like "I Heart Weed" or whatever.

That's my completely irrelevant opinion. People, including GMs, have all sorts of ridiculous knee-jerk reactions to drug references.
I wish you luck in avoiding them.

 

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I agree with DrMike, regarding Mescaline and Laudanum.

References to commonly used illegal drugs don't hit the vulgar/offensive triggers as much as they bump against the inappropriate/Controversial button. Like references to partisan politics.
Sure, one person will associate the character "Smooth Weed" with the sterotypical mellow hippy or the glaucoma-having granny getting a medicinal supply. And another will associate the character with that guy who shot a hiker in the forest for getting too close to his grow patch or the guy caught practicing identity theft for check-forging to afford his next supply.

 

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I had a cool character concept idea this morning. I wanted to make an illusion controller who has the ability to bring his dreams to life in the real world. To fuel his abilities while awake, he takes a lot of hallucinogenic drugs. The character will likely have references to drugs in both his name and backstory. I'm wondering though if this is likely to get me generic'd for violating the code of conduct. Anyone know?
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If it hasn't already been taken?

Go for "Absinthe Minded"

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That's taken on Triumph


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Originally Posted by Cirkuit View Post
Ummm so you dont actually KNOW what BC Skunk is referencing but you Think it should still be petitioned IYHO???? Thats rather 'strange' Logic No??
No... that's not what I meant at all.

What I meant was that those other toons, the ones he thinks are worse than his name, ought to have been petitioned. Forbin's right, but again, not what I meant.


 

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Mescaline actually presents an interesting case then, since its legal status is not real clear (it's legal in some places for some uses and not legal in others).
Perhaps if the player is Native American and a member of one of the churches that are specifically exempted from Federal controls, the name is legal? Though remember Smith v Oregon ;-)

PS - sorry my rapidly decaying memory conflated "case law" (ie. bunches of discussions on these forums of genericed names with drug references) with the EULA itself.

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As said: If you have to ask, you can't get away with it.

It's easy to use a name without explicit drug references.

 

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Your character concept is offensive to me. The idea that drugs might grant super powers to someone is inappropriate for a T-rated game. If I saw that toon, I'd petition your ***. Drugs do NOT grant super powers.

Except Superdine.

And Rage.

Oh, and Excelsior

On second thought, never mind. Does anyone know where I can find a bong shaped like Positron's helmet?

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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite View Post
*suddenly and quietly laughing*

If it hasn't already been taken?

Go for "Absinthe Minded"

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hahahaha good one!

 

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Your character concept is offensive to me. The idea that drugs might grant super powers to someone is inappropriate for a T-rated game. If I saw that toon, I'd petition your ***. Drugs do NOT grant super powers.

Except Superdine.

And Rage.

Oh, and Excelsior

On second thought, never mind. Does anyone know where I can find a bong shaped like Positron's helmet?
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I once knew someone with a plant Dom named Weed Man. The name lasted for a while then poof! Generic2987349087 or something.

The line is fine.


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I have a pretty low threshold for petitioning names.. and Weed Man, wouldn't even cause a blip on my petitiometer. I would just think the guy was reeeeaaaaalllllllly uncreative.


 

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Mescaline Dreams is actually a pretty cool name, be a shame if it gets modsmacked.

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Originally Posted by Zombie Man View Post
Yeah, no references to barbiturates!
Actually, I meant the ref to the Kayan-esque blonde femme-toy who "has everything!" BUT your take works too.

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