Ok,wanting to understand..

Ok,what im wanting to understand is why people respond in very few ways when a players asks a question?

If someone asks of the "Fun Factor" or a particular build and AT....they get the following...

"Its not good at soloing AVs."

Well,if that was my focus,wouldnt i have mentioned that when i asked about how fun the build is?

or

"Heres a Mids map that may help the development of your build."

Great,awesome,cool....not only did you throw a outside program at me,that not only is impossibly useless in anything but telling you maxamized numbers for a power set,it doesnt tell you how your going to perform vs the things youll face in the game,like villian/mob resistances,def %,do you need massive support from a team to do anything?Or if youll even like the build,or if youll be the type to play that particual build correctly.Plus,i didnt tell you that i wanted to make a toon that i wanted to try out for the olympics.

or

"That build is meh...but with IOs,it could be halfway decent."

I see...so nothing but IOs is a contributing factor in how well you can build and play a character?My only response to those who belive you have to be IOd to be decent..is...Your limiting your self on what the game offers,your playing the same thing as the next guy because its a exsplored set...that by no means makes it a "Better" set then one less used.It simply makes you ignorant,hence the response on IOs making it decent.(NO,mids does NOT work correctly,its a insufficient program)

Then this last one is the one that urks me..because its the more seen,in the forums,and in the game its self,and its the most ignorant thing i can think of pertaining to this subject..

"Thats a horrible set,and the reason is because of....."

The reasons that follow the beggining of this comment are usually from ignorant people,from every corner of the Earth,that play this game.

From "Mids numbers arnt very high." to "Because i had a friend that had a level 50 of that build!And erased it!Cause it Sucked!",and we both know thats a cop out,to talk trash on someones choice in a less travelled,or less understood set,just for the sake of talking trash,when they never seen a player do it,or just couldnt cope with a diffrent playing style,or never tried it at all.

I also dont understand why people would suggjest there build...to everyone else...for me,and many other players,i find Cookie Cutting and copying a build that is everywhere annoying.

Some of you dont like me,and some of you know exactly what im talking about,but its those of you that dont like me,know i speak truth.

So why is it that [unnamed people] do [things I disagree with]?

My advice: don't allow your feathers to be ruffled so easily. Sure, we have some hardcore number crunchers running rampant on the boards. We also have people who enjoy roleplaying, basebuilding, making costumes and a number of other things. Find what you enjoy in the game and have fun doing it.

Dude. Chill.

For a moment, I thought maybe I had somehow triggered this outburst with my topic here, where I was trying to decide between a rad/fire and a rad/mm blaster. Then I did a search for your recent posts, and I start seeing a pattern.

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LAY OFF THE MIDs PEOPLE! PLAY THE FREAKING GAME! ENJOY YOUR CHARACTER!NOT THE NUMBERS! GAWD!

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DROP THE MIDS AND PLAY THE FRICKIN BUILD! EXPERIANCE IT WITHOUT BEING A SCIENTIFIC GEEK THAT ONLY SEE's NUMBERS! Thats my comment!

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FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS STALKER! STOP USING MIDS! PLAY THE FRICKIN MIX! NUMBERS MEAN DIDDLY! PLAYER MEANS EVERYTHING!

And of course, your unnecessary criticism in my thread:

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Ummm,i have a question...since when did a build need IOs to be playable?...if i remember correctly,the Devs pointed out that IOs can increase a characters abilities,but is not required to play the game,and the game will not be made more difficult because of them. Im also betting on you throwing up a Mids build scared people off from the post.Its annoying enough comming in to give someone advice for a build,and all the sudden your mezmorized by a Mids map that you dont care to see right off the bat,then get a comment like the one above,making it seem you dont find it a worthy build without IOs,but are surprised it is? Where you dropped as a child?

Edit: Addendum

Before everyone seeks to behead this poor person, not every post you find is overly negative. You will also find supportive comments given by the OP. But this type of behavior obviously should stop.

Numbers can be scary.

I think you're misunderstanding some of the comments.

I know when I say a build will be better with IOs, is because people see something a set will do, and think that's how it works ALL the time.

SHIELD/ tanks for instance, I've found to not be all that great on something without backup, if they're missing a few things. No Tough/Weave. Oh, without the buffers/debuffers to cover, I've seen them fall pretty easily.

Ok, for the heck of it, here are the serious questions to it.

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Originally Posted by Fire_Minded Ok,what im wanting to understand is why people respond in very few ways when a players asks a question? If someone asks of the "Fun Factor" or a particular build and AT....they get the following... "Its not good at soloing AVs." Well,if that was my focus,wouldnt i have mentioned that when i asked about how fun the build is?

I do not recall ever seeing someone respond this way to a post asking if a powerset was fun or not. The only times I can recall seeing it are when people asked how powerful a build is.

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"Heres a Mids map that may help the development of your build." Great,awesome,cool....not only did you throw a outside program at me,that not only is impossibly useless in anything but telling you maxamized numbers for a power set,it doesnt tell you how your going to perform vs the things youll face in the game,like villian/mob resistances,def %,do you need massive support from a team to do anything?Or if youll even like the build,or if youll be the type to play that particual build correctly.Plus,i didnt tell you that i wanted to make a toon that i wanted to try out for the olympics.

You're correct, Mids doesn't tell you how you're going to perform in the game. However that is pretty much impossible to tell outside of actually leveling the character and seeing. For transferring information about a build Mids is the easiest way of doing it. Most of the time people post the full build not just the data chunk so you don't even need Mids to be able to use it.

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"That build is meh...but with IOs,it could be halfway decent." I see...so nothing but IOs is a contributing factor in how well you can build and play a character?My only response to those who belive you have to be IOd to be decent..is...Your limiting your self on what the game offers,your playing the same thing as the next guy because its a exsplored set...that by no means makes it a "Better" set then one less used.It simply makes you ignorant,hence the response on IOs making it decent.(NO,mids does NOT work correctly,its a insufficient program)

No IOs are not the only factor in how well a build performs. However the power sets are NOT completely balanced against each other. In general different sets perform better or worse in different situations. The difference is that some sets have their high points in situations that are more common while others perform better in rarer situations.

For example, Devices is commonly regarded as a poor Blaster secondary. It's actually reasonably decent BUT the place where it shines is when you're soloing and even then it's slower than other sets that offer similar mitigation. In team play Devices offers very little to help the team.

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Then this last one is the one that urks me..because its the more seen,in the forums,and in the game its self,and its the most ignorant thing i can think of pertaining to this subject.. "Thats a horrible set,and the reason is because of....." The reasons that follow the beggining of this comment are usually from ignorant people,from every corner of the Earth,that play this game. From "Mids numbers arnt very high." to "Because i had a friend that had a level 50 of that build!And erased it!Cause it Sucked!",and we both know thats a cop out,to talk trash on someones choice in a less travelled,or less understood set,just for the sake of talking trash,when they never seen a player do it,or just couldnt cope with a diffrent playing style,or never tried it at all.

Again I've never actually seen people trash talking someone else's power set choices. It is normally presented as a warning that the set might not perform to the person's expectations. Again this is a simple fact. For example consider the Tanker primaries Stone Armor and Shield Defense. Without team support a SD Tanker will not have the survivability of a Stone Tanker. This is a deliberate design decision by the Devs, SD tankers have higher damage than other Tankers (especially Stone) but it comes at the cost of lowered defenses. So if someone posted a thread saying that they wanted to be an awesome Tanker and were going to use Shield Defense then a post warning them that Shield Defense tanks are kinda squishy compared to other tanks would be reasonable.

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I also dont understand why people would suggjest there build...to everyone else...for me,and many other players,i find Cookie Cutting and copying a build that is everywhere annoying.

If you ask someone for a build and give them no guidelines then they will almost certainly give you their build simply because they have it available and it's a build that they like. Compared to most MMOs CoH is extremely free of cookie cutter builds. There are a few power set combinations that do get used a lot (mostly because they're good for farming) but even with them there is quite a bit of variation.

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Some of you dont like me,and some of you know exactly what im talking about,but its those of you that dont like me,know i speak truth.

I don't dislike you because I don't know you. I do however consider you extremely annoying.

I actually agree with Fire's message, but don't see a reason to post that way. I'm a huge proponent of making characters for the characters' sakes, not for the game's.

Case in point, my main character, a Katana/SR Scrapper, does not have Divine Avalanche, Evasion or Lucky. He does have Elude, though I generally only use it as an "OH <bleep!>" button. He is not even close to softcapped on any of his positional defenses, sitting at around 32% for Melee and Ranged and about 6% for AOE. He has Energy Torrent from the Body Mastery APP, but not Laser Eyebeams. He's also a ton of fun to play, even though it took a while to figure him out. He's a completely unique character that does what I want him to.

I also used Mids' Hero Designer to get him the way that I wanted him. It's an incredibly useful tool when you graduate from being a casual player to a dedicated one, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with using it, or even relying on it when building your character. There's also nothing wrong with chooing not to use it.

Bottom line is, play the game how you want to play it. Feel free to tell your tricks and ideas to other players. But when you start telling others they're wrong for the choices they make, then you've become the very thing you're fighting against.

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Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

OP, here's a Mids map that may help the development of your build.

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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Dispari. I love you so much. So, so much! <3

Why do posts like this get so many responses? Serious question.