Ok,wanting to understand..

OP:

"What is the fun factor of this build?" is an IMPOSSIBLE question to give an answer to. Seriously, what exactly the hell is a "fun factor"?

Fun factor of something is impossibe to quantify with fact, because it is different for everyone. If I say "Sonic/devices blasters are fun", for ME it is a fact. As soon as I make that statement to someone else it becomes my opinion.

(Which is proof that something can indeed be fact and opinion simultaneously, weird huh?)

I don't know why you have such a problem with Mid's. It's not like this is a console fighting game where you cannot alter the characters. Your choices determine how well your character will perform. If you decide to make a controller and take and use nothing but melee attacks from power pools, that is your choice, but that character is going to suck.

If you choose not to min/max your character and refuse to use IOs, that is your choice, but understand that your character will probably not perform as well as someone's who put that extra thought and effort into it. No, neither are necessary, but neither is it necessary to denounce people for using a tool provided to them. That's like denouncing a carpenter for using a tape measure.

And you're going to view this as a personal attack and say that I'm just like all the mythical people who only answer a question a few ways. That's fine. You can lead a horse to reason, but you can't make him think.

Have a nice day.

Claws

There, made a small adjustment to the build. Don't know what I was thinking; Personal Insult should have definitely been slotted for taunt.

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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

You ask for "fun." Others respond with the bits they think are fun. Unfortunately, that isn't fun for you. Chacun a son gout.

First off: for the love of $deity, use space after a commas, full stops and exclamation marks. Please. My sister who is on 3rd grade knows how to do this.


Second, let me get on with your rant.

Just because you say something is "the truth", doesn't mean it. On the same basis I could say I'm the king of the world and your rant sucks because it's a blatant lie. For all those who don't know, I'm speaking the truth. Yay, I WIN!

Okay, okay, I kid. The one and only thing I have to tell you is you aren't everyone. Understand me? Thought not. Just because you don't enjoy the number aspect of this game doesn't mean other people can't; I'm sorry to wreck your self entitlement and all that, but you're wrong.

For example, I quite enjoy having access to numbers, but I understand people who are afraid of numbers. They shouldn't worry, though, numbers don't bite. Most of the time I try to min/max my character within a concept. See? I'm not a "SCIENTIFIC GEEK WHO ONLY SEE's (!? what's up with that spelling!?) NUMBERS". I'm a computer geek just like everyone else here who sees numbers and the game itself.

I play this game and most of the time plan stuff based on what I've experienced ingame, and believe me, I've got experience worth of ~4.5 years so it isn't nothing.

I like the improvements in your most recent build. It looks pretty strong overall. Here are a few things I noticed that might help you improve it further:

- Circular Logic benefits greatly from the Coercive Persuasion: Contagious Confusion proc. Taking CL is almost not worth it without it, because most enemies will break through the circle too quickly. The CC proc extends the chaos beyond the normal reach of your logic, keeping enemies dazed a little longer. You're more likely to win if your opponents are fighting each other instead of you.

- Consider replacing Flight with Super Speed. You can combine it with Netspeak for invisibility, important for stealthing past fights you can't win. You can also use it to launch sneak attacks with Outright Lie.

- Hyperbole needs to be slotted for Fear duration. It's almost not worth taking with your current slotting.

- No Rage or Footstomp?


OP: We're just messing with you. But I think you should reconsider how you direct your frustration. I don't know how anyone can answer a question like "how fun is XYZ build" without making at least some reference to the powers. Maybe you are power-agnostic, but its just weird to ask a question about a build and not expect a response about, you know, the build.

Uhhm, have you noticed that we are min/maxing Dispari's build in a topic where the OP is annoyed by those that min/max?\

In blatant flame, I see you are using positron's blast. This is typical of most rants, as they just don't have their recharge slotted well enough to do it frequently. If they would just use ragnarok, they could be slightly more effective. This is a common mistake for many. However, I see that ragnarok is in pigeonhole. I suppose it does need the recharge. How unfortunate.

I'm also not sure why netspeak is slotted for recharge. It's clearly a toggle that one can turn on and off. It should be slotted for accuracy of lingo and maybe end redux if you're wanting it to not be so exhausting to rely on.

I also want to verify that Perfect Zinger: Chance for Headdesk has been slotted into personal insult.

You know, I used to really hate it when people criticized me for eating my yogort with fork, so I said, that's really none of their business cause the fork fit so many other things that I ate and I didnt want to pack more stuff. Then I said to myself, I'll show'em and I started eating with a knife and people said- YOU SHOULD NEVER EAT WITH A KNIFE IT'S TOO DANGEROUS! And I said, that's true. So I went back to eating with a fork, and they laughed, and I laughed, and all of us had a really good laugh. I really dont like eating yogort with a fork; it's just not as ideal as a spoon, but as St. Dominic always said "Oh feely me boney belly dominos nabisco benny sellus all his dominos." (Seriously, it's on Cheech and Chong's Greatest Hits). And with that in mind I do what I do reguardless of what others think is ideal cause it suits me (especially here cause it's a GAME).

Most people who post on the forums are looking to maximize performance from those with better optimizing-for-performance skills. Want to maximize for fun- go right ahead and post your build. Maybe someone has some fun insight that you havn't thought of. Just keep an open mind please.

Oh, and if you fail, you can always self-rez with a necro-post. Your options are really quite limitless.

Different people find different things fun. Even the same people find different things fun.

Sometimes I want to IO a character out and squeeze out every last spec of performance from them. Sometimes I want to play them to 50 without any IO's and just enjoy them the way they are. Sometimes I just want to laugh at their costume and name, and could care less about what level they are or even what abilities they have.

I get a lot of flack because I love fly, and some people don't like that power very much. Honestly it doesn't bother me.

On a message forum, even if you are very specific in what you request you will get a number of answers that aren't relevant to you. Try not to take offense to them.