Why the Pocket D Stigma?

There's a really nice spot, a couple sheltered benches, on a hill on the ski slopes looking out at Pocket D.

Very romantic.

I would love to see red only zones, blue only zones, and grey(purple?) zones in GR. Especialy if they're not nightclubs or bars like Pocket D, as a lot of characters would'nt hang in them for various reasons. This would take a commitment by the playerbase though, like a petition that says "I'd be willing to hang/RP there" which woul in turn, enocurage others who ar'ent on the forums to go, as they'd go, see the population, and stay.

Of course that sounds like a lot of work, and we know how much we all like work. :P

I think that's the biggest thing. We all love to complain about it but changing the status quo is never worth the effort needed. I mean, I have my SG base for RP and sitting out in Atlas Park isn't half bad anyway... Though again, my character (while 900% more likely to be seen there than the D) is still probably not gunna hang out there. The Midnighter's Club on the other hand... funny enough.

Once upon a time, a whole bunch of us used to hang out in Gemnii Park to chat, RP and other stuff. This was before City of Villains or even the Paragon Dance Party. Even then, we had our weirdos, angsty role-players and some of the more "mature" RPers (though not as much).

There, I met Xanatos, Captain Valor, Ascendant, Heroid, Ireland Love, Vangelus, Polaron and a host of others whose names I can't remember.

Thing is; it grew, changed, and sadly, moved to what is now Pocket D (after an aborted attempt at Paragon Dance Party).

Yes, Pocket D was initially host to some of the weirdest and sickest RP I've seen (this is from my perspective, not necessarily others). And that tag made me avoid Pocket D like the plague.

However, like Gemnii Park, it has grown and changed. I noticed this the other day when I parked my butt in the chalet while trying to come up with idea for my tabletop game. During the course of it all, I overheard a couple of conversations that are similar to what would have been heard in Gemnii Park. It was a pleasant moment.

Unfortunately, tags stick around and reputation gets passed around, which is why it still has a bad tag attached. It's up to us -- blueside and redside alike -- to keep the experience pleasant for everyone and to bring up the reputation for the D and say, "Hey, it's not such a bad place for hangout." While we can't do anything personally to some of the more rude idiots out there, the best thing you can do is not pay attention to their commentary and if possible, /ignore them.

In the meanwhile, have fun out there!

Just chiming in on one of the side topics here...

Maybe Praetoria will provide a new (Or more than one) spot that only the D really provides right now.

Of course... The RWZ could be used as such a place as well.

I would love to have a diner (Probably better than a little coffee shop).


More to the stuff about the D itself...

All the stuff some people mock ab out the D would (And does, I'm sure) happen elsewhere.
Add in that, yeah, Pocket D is a nightclub... and you have actual immersive reasons for why that spot would be more of a center for it.
From drinking, dancing, seeking romance, seeking sex to whatever else lies beyond (No, not kids and debt)... it matches the real life mindset that one could find these things THERE better than elsewhere (Not saying that real life mindset is right either, haha... but virtual reality follows reality... No matter how poorly perceived that reality may be).

I don't care for the D, because none of my characters (Nor my personal interests in role-playing) have any interest in nightclubs and the things one can do there.

Very rarely... it can be fun to bring a character who is not a social butterfly (And is uncomfortable in such a setting as a nightclub), but (unless it is with friends) that is generally a bit of immersive (fun?) all by yourself as you watch your character behave shyly and eventually leave early.

Also, as usual, everything I've seen ChaosRed say matches my thoughts and feelings... I may not like it, but I'll defend people's right to do it.

That being said... I have more of an issue with society's standards at large about certain things that seem to lead others to be more offended.
Just along the lines of what people deem appropriate regarding the opposite sex, lack of respect, questionable age... The open enjoyment of a very youthful look...
Anyways, I only specified a bit there because I didn't want people to mistake my cryptic comment for some other idea/beliefs they might imagine.


I wish we had more library characters to maintain a hot spot.
No, it wouldn't be, "Hey, Professor Silverback! Wanna dance while we read through these old newspapers to try and figure out a link in these old crimes?"
But there would be a lot of potential for spontaneous role-play between Heroes and/or Villains to do with... ya know... hero and villain stuff.

And, not just at a library...
That's why I think a diner would be great.

A mall could be the best idea.

Have a diner/restaurant, a bookstore/library, a toy store...

I'd settle for a diner.

Ya know, a diner'd actually be really flippin' cool. Though, I second the wish for more bookish heroes to sit around in a library.

honestly, if the city and isles wer'ent filled with so many big empty generic buildings, and had lots of small empty shops and whatnot, it'd be cool, lots of tiny spots to hang and RP and such, but that's asking for too much I suppose.

My take on this is pretty simple

1. Some people are just immature and never got past the giggling at things pertaining to sex phase ( I.E. early teens )
2. Some people are just too narrow minded to consider that even if someone does ERP perhaps they're not the basement dwelling mouth breathing loser they seem to so strongly wish they were
3. Some people seem fixated on the whole 'no girls on the internet thing' so much so I question whether the males that say this perhaps aren't gay and hoping for an all male utopia ( IT'S RAININ MEN! )
4. People from a certain chan. Nuff said.
5. Some are simply talking out their ****. Looking for drama, thriving off drama and arguing/starting trouble just to argue/start trouble because they can't feel self important without it
6. The above + Low self esteem = Half the retards who get into arguments on the internet

-removed. Nothing needs to be said.-

Well, there really should be a distinction there. I didn't see it. It really just came across to me as 'People who dislike the D and say so suck because they suck' in the short hand. I mean, I'm glad it really meant 'people who grief the D suck because they suck' but... I dunno. It didn't seem so clearly defined to me.

While yes, you didn't out right say 'This is what people are: (Insert list here)' you did say 'This is my take on things:' and then listed only negative archetypes... which really only gave the impression (To me, as I can only speak for myself) that the reason Pocket D has a negative stigma to it is because of a-holes like the ones you listed.

<----is experimenting in the D right now...let's see if I can invoke someone to proposition me. CUE THE WALK TOGGLE!!!!

You want to argue that? Show me ANYWHERE where ANYONE can prove a person is an adult on the internet.

Age verification through credit cards? ID? Birth Certificate? Social Security? All can be faked or can be gotten to use to be faked. By your logic any eroticism on the internet as a generalized whole must therefore be illegal by the argument that you can't prove viewers and participants are of legal age.

Please.

Get a more serious argument if you wish to down this. With people in the game who have ERP and all stated clearly in their profiles and the fact that the City of Heroes team seems okay with this as long as it's kept private I really don't think it's of that great a concern to them or they'd have said/done something about it.

Most people on the game ERP or not are probably of age and if they're not, it's fairly obvious ( as a general rule, check their typing proficiency. Do they misspell words often? Do they use punctuation? If so, it's probably not someone of age. ) and you may call this argument flimsy but it's just as flimsy as yours and I seriously doubt they could actually prosecute you in court or would even bother.

You're mad at ERPers because they're selfish? Then what are you? By your post you've rather clearly indicated you're only angry because it might ( not even a realistic chance, however ) inconvenience you. So you're guilty of being self centered as well.

Derp derp. Pot calling the kettle black.