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ITT; GoldenGirl Drama
She's always looking for something to complain about or be against people about. Frankly I'm beginning to feel she's a bit of a cancer on the forums. Hey, I'm just saying what everyone is thinking.
It's kind of funny, there's an alleged "wiccan" here, but the Malleus ( Salem Witch trials, Witch Hunts all together, etc ) actually had nothing remotely to do with Wicca itself. Cool point of fact, that's WHY "Witch Hunt" is used in the way it is. Because they literally weren't actual witches, they were just normal people.. Not Wiccans.. Just.. People..
So, yeah. Actually you really have nothing to be offended about if you're Wiccan even if this is a reference to the Malleficarum because it has nothing to do with you and it's certainly not any attempted jab at you. -
Quote:Originally Posted by OmniSurge
For the record, the OP has a point. Pocket D tends to be full of cliques...and these cliques can at times be quite rude to "outside" people. Then there are the times I've seen someone ask a question in broadcast and get slammed with rude and insulting commments. Now I'm not saying it happens all the time, but it does happen often enough to be noticeable.
Of course.. then there are those people who actually get mad at others for speaking OOC in the D...deny it all day..but I've seen it happen. These people tend to be quite rude. Lets not even bring up the rude and sometimes insulting comments I've seen in the forums. My point is this...most of the Virtue community can be quite nice most of the time...but on occassion it can also be full of ******** and *******. Getting defensive and calling the OP stupid, or saying other rude comments simply because you don't see what he's talking about, are part of what he's talking about, or just don't care...well that only adds fuel to the fire and further proves him right about Virtue.
I fully understand the idea of the internet being a place were alot of people go /just/ because they can be rude,insulting, whatever without consequences, but must /we/ do so? Ok.. so the guy ran into a few ********/*******..I know I have..tell the guy to suck it up and move on, but is there really a need to insult em, or tell him he's wrong? Especially since he's right about everything he said.
Like you said, this is the internet. People will act humongous massive douches here for no apparent reason other than to stroke their own self perceived superiority and to feed their ego complexes.
As for the cliques? I say this; Show me a place where there are no cliques, no "exclusive groups", and no "special clubs" and you will have shown me a place where there are no humans.
This is quite simply a human phenomenon. Humans do this, it's rather typical of the majority of them ( Ah, yeah. Caught you, notice how I said majority, back you little harpers. I'm not generalizing. ) - Every game I've ever played that had other people playing it as well be it Neverwinter Nights 2, World of Warcraft, Second Life, Star Wars: Galaxies, EverQuest or anything else has always had cliques. They come with the territory the same as arseholes on the internet come with.. Well, being on the internet. As I've said before and will say many more times, people ( This caliber of punk specifically ) suddenly finds themselves with much more courage with the anonymity of the internet on their sides than they would face-to-face in the real world. The simple fact is that they don't have to fear repercussions here.. It's a sad fact, but I mean.. People will be people..
Let it bother you and you've already lost. You can speak out against it and at least try to educate others on it and try to make your opinion and outlook on the subject and situation known in the hopes that maybe your words will reach another and be of help.. But frankly, most of the time your words will fall on deaf ears, it will be a waste of time, and ultimately in most cases you'll be flamed for daring to oppose the status quo. If you wish to do this, by all means, but don't let it bother you. As I said, the second you let it bother you and the second you let yourself get angry over it is the second you've lost. You cease to offer anything productive and everything just kind of devolves itself into another random and pointless flame war. -
Meh.. I used to go to Costume Contests every time I saw one because on most of my characters I regularly get compliments on how cool/unique/good looking my costumes are.. That said, however, I've never actually won a Costume Contest and I find each time that I see someone winning that ( and perhaps this is just personal bias talking ) doesn't have a costume even half as original, well thought out or unique as mine. They may be a run of the mill 'I hacked/stole this design from another comic book/anime/cartoon' sort of costumed hero ( which I see a lot of ) and they still win.
I must say it's very discouraging.. Especially considering on one of my costumes which I must admit was inspired by several things ( I never said I didn't do it, just that all my costumes aren't 'inspired by' works ) but to the point as I was saying, especially considering this specific costume in question actually had costume parts built in that had effects ( powers and temporary powers ) that I had associated with the function of the costume itself to make it appear as if the devices/items were actual functioning gadgets.
I've never seen another person put as much thought into a costume as I did in that one. Alas.. Beh.. Just bad luck, I guess. -
Quote:Madam. Though thank you kindly, g.Originally Posted by Khellendrosiic
You, sir or madam, deserve a round of applause.
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Quote:Pardon, but.. I keep looking for the indication of your being an administrator, moderator or even simple forum moderator; some indication that you're actually a member of the NCSoft staff and I keep coming up empty-handed. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough.Originally Posted by Commander
Jade, read the EULA. There is no free speech in CoH as it is not a public forum. It is a corporately owned game that sets the rules and regulations regarding on what they allow. I'm sorry that there are people that abide by their rules and upset you to no end.
It's not about "us" being right or being "full" of ourselves. It's about playing by the rules of the EULA. It's about being in an environment for years then all of a sudden, someone tries to makes waves. If we can play by the rules, then everyone else should as well.
If that's too difficult or too problematic, then there are plenty of other places to go.
But since I can't find a clear indication marking you a staff member, I'm going to take the safe assumption that you're probably coming here to post this just to help me prove my point! So, thank you! Thank you for being predictable and doing exactly what I knew someone would do in response to my post, now I can illustrate exactly what I'm talking about with an example! /em glee!
You see, you're the type I believe that has decided to take a piece of cardboard, colour and decorate it pretty and flaunt it around as a badge. I believe you're the type that thinks your opinion and personal interpretation of the rules supersedes my own. That some how by some one you've been given a higher authority that makes anything I say irrelevant and everything you say automatically right because clearly you're one of the 'chosen few'. Oh and yes, it is your personal interpretation. Ready for this? I might just blow your mind, but that's what I do, yo.
You see, in this game.. There are a choice few who have authority over the rest of us.. We call them NCSoft Staff members, be them admins, GMs, moderators or simply forum moderators; they are actually employed by NCSoft and given authority and the right to enforce the rules over the rest of us.. Then we have you.. Someone who thinks they have good intentions, thinks they're better than everyone else and believes that their personal interpretation of the rules automatically invalidates anything we think. We have a word for you, words in fact..
Wanna be moderator, pseudo mod, supacop, internet po-lice, TEH LAW, etc etc
The fact of the matter is you have 0 authority and 0 right to tell me what is right and wrong in this game. The only right you have? Is to report me and let the actual STAFF the people with actual AUTHORITY handle the situation and decide if rules have been broken and whether those rules are severe enough for punitive action if you believe something I or anyone else has done is wrong. This sort of self important knobbery is exactly what I'm talking about, though. You may not realize it but every day you act this way you probably chase one person away from this game because this game does not have an open and welcoming community and if you speak against the status quo, have a different opinion than the 'cool kids' or do something that these power tripping kiddies don't like they will use their cardboard badge against you and abuse what little power they have in this game.. Not to mention socially shun you and make sure that anyone else in the game that they can get their claws into does the same.
Sorry to bust your bubble, but you have no right to tell me or anyone else what they can or cannot do, can and cannot say or can and cannot joke about. You're not NCSoft Staff, you have no authority and you're just a player like me.
inb4; attempted jab at my integrity, insult as response, you're a hypocrite/waah, you're a troll etc
PS: You may find this interesting. Not hours after posting what I posted I received a PM from someone in this forum that they had taken the time to write and send just to thank me for speaking the honest truth and going against the status quo.
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Welcome to City of Heroes! Where the players justify themselves regardless of rhyme or reason, where they are always right and you are always wrong, where no one can take a joke and where your opinion is pointless and wrong and will get you flamed because how dare you think for yourself!?
To be honest, I won't even talk in channels like VU2010 anymore, I'm usually pretty hesitant to talk over global or even person to person. I'm here to play this game and have fun, not deal with peoples pointless drama because they're too full of themselves. A lot of people on this server are and if you give them reason they will hold a grudge for.. Well, for basically ever.
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Quote:Considering how unfriendly and hostile the regulars in that channel are I'd like to answer in two separate ways.Originally Posted by Valentyna
Once upon a time wasn't there the virtue universe channel (VU2008, 2009, ECT) to fill exactly this role? Did it die a horrible death in the past year?
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Quote:Well assuming they read the forums they probably realized they were digging themselves in deep sh.. Ahem.. Yes..Originally Posted by IAmTheRad
http://www.cityofheroes.com/goingrog...re_tyrant.html
Two updates in one day?
Anyway, this sort of thing tends to incite action in those whom are responsible and intelligent. If they want to keep the subscriber numbers they have, they'd better get on the ball and give the people what they want. -
Quote:WoW also has over a million subscribers. Poor choice of comparison as that completely invalidates it as an argument, Blizzard also regularly updates WoW and has since it's released added two expansions ( Not to mention being a statistical anomaly amongst MMO's ). City of Heroes barely sports 124,939 subscribers at last count ( be mindful that count is from 2008 so the chances are that there are actually fewer subscribers now than there were then as I see no actual reason why the subscription numbers wouldn't decline given lack of updates and real reason to stay )Originally Posted by Hott_Head
just because a game is dated does not mean it is failing WoW came out the same year as COH and nobody talks about weather or not it is failing, i think as fans of this game if the devs are not going to do any kind of advertising then why don't we do it for them make videos for youtube post screens anywhere you can and get those friends signed up boost the numbers ourselves then we will be on firm ground to demand things from the devs...
sorry went a bit too far there
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Quote:That's the internet for you. That's how people are here.Originally Posted by Garielle
Wow. People are a bit too sensitive. I save my hell-repping for folks that engage in personal attacks, or who refuse to actually discuss anything even semi-intelligently, and instead choose to throw virtual temper tantrums when the entire world doesn't immediately agree with them and bow down in an immediate show of respect and submissiveness.
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Quote:If I'm not mistaken I believe you're wrong, I believe that Aion ( their new baby ) is more successful than City of Heroes at the moment.Originally Posted by Garielle
As I understand it, CoX is still NC Soft's most successful MMO in the US (though I may be wrong here) with the strongest recurring income.
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Quote:It probably is. This is per typical of City of Heroes and NCSoft. To be honest I think they're fiscally conservative to a self destructive extreme. They help nothing by not advertising City of Heroes and in the end it just causes the subscription numbers to drop steadily through the years. They don't gain near as many as they could if they bothered to market their game.Originally Posted by Kyuuen
Yes. Tyrants profile would be nice, so would some screenshots of the shiny new Praetorian designs. At the very least.
..and if marketing is responsible for the horrid pacing of information release, this is my thumbs down to them.
I sometimes wonder if the point isn't that they're just milking it and riding it's last few years out so to capitalize and maximize their profit with minimum spending. -
Quote:Indeed which is something I had mentioned. The lack of information and the lack of updates is beginning to burn me out on City of Heroes. Whereas I used to log in every other day or every day if I could I'm going weeks at a time without any desire whatsoever to log in because frankly I can't think of anything I'd do that would actually be fun if I did and the idea of this expansion is so teasing because it's presumably and hopefully a ton of new content that it's beginning to depress me.Originally Posted by PDXUnder
Yeah, I'm starting to believe a delay is becoming likely. I am excited for what looms on the horizon...but yeeesh...the lack of new info is finally starting to needle this very patient 66-month vet.
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Quote:To be fair ( I can't believe I'm defending them ) what they revealed at HeroCon was a fairly big chunk. Bigger than most other MMO's I can recall to date that first announced an expansion and released their first trickles of information.Originally Posted by IAmTheRad
I'd prefer if they said something rather then keeping it hush-hush. Even something like "we cannot disclose any further details about Going Rogue at this time" but still unvieling what was at Herocon, because some people might not even know of the panel.
That said with the general pace of the MMO world I think this expansion being delayed is probably an inevitability at this point.. But I may be speaking hastily. -
Quote:Pretty much which is why I've always been astounded at NCSoft being surprised that so many of their MMO's fail.Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
No, marketing just sucks.
Well gee guys, when you don't advertise and no one except for harder core gamers who actually bother looking for this stuff and people who happen across it by accident/through another person it's no surprise why your MMO fails or your subscription numbers are particularly low.
ITT; people with a TERRIBLE grasp on basic corporate economics.
Seriously, advertisement is key. You'd think they'd know that and actually do something about it but it's amazing and unbelievable that they don't. I just can't figure out what they must be thinking. -
I'd also considered as an argument against the whole 'canceling Going Rogue' idea is that another MMO I've followed very closely ( Star Wars: The Old Republic ) hasn't had any information updates or anything for quite a while ( however as I understand in an announcement for shareholders discussing what the next year had to offer they had said it would release in spring 2011 as opposed to it's previous 'second quarter of 2010' )
Point is, MMO's are notorious about not giving you much information and taking what seems like an eternity to do anything noteworthy. It is rather depressing and disheartening, though. For a person like me it starts to make me look at alternatives and grow tired and weary of the current choice in MMO. Especially when no new updates are released for a current product.
( In a moment of insanity I returned to Star Wars: Galaxies to get a taste of Star Wars in an MMO. That was.. A very poor choice.. ) -
Quote:Hm.. In a rare semi optimistic moment I'm going to go ahead and say that I don't think that they would have canceled it but I'm also not going to disregard this as a possibility and say that the reason that it exists as a possibility in my mind is because this game being as old as it is and dated as it is and in spite of all the nay sayers and blind supporters isn't really doing that well in the grand scheme of things and at best has a couple more years life ( and in my personal opinion I think that's being generous )Originally Posted by DJ_Shecky
I was thinking about Going Rogue, and how a lot of people are looking forward to it and realized the following:
1) Last info for it given to us was a general statement about video cards for the holiday season
2) The actual site which has profiles for Malestrom and Desmonda has not been updated since before HeroCon
3) No new teasers, no build is happening, but it is supposed to be out in Q2 as of last mentioning (HeroCon I do believe)
So the question is, am I just being paranoid that something happened and it has either been A) Delayed or B) Canceled, or does it seem really weird that we haven't gotten anything about it in months?
*puts on Tin Foil Hat*
From a corporate standpoint it may be more fiscally responsible to cancel this instead of putting the money forward to release it, advertise for it ( assuming there are even any advertisements.. Which knowing this company, there won't be. ) and upgrade everything ( plus the many other factors I've probably missed ) the numbers they have now may not necessarily be filling them with great excitement for gambling it.. And with their record with MMO's they may also take that into account.. There are many factors that play a part..
However like I said, I don't personally think even from a corporate standpoint that they would cancel it.. Again though, I have been wrong many times in the past. For all I know it may have been canceled already and they're just waiting patiently to break the news at a time when they've prepared to probably shut the game down. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Gearsinger
Keep in mind that the acronym for this group seems to be HIV. Maybe not the imagine you're looking for with a group of heroes.
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I did a jungle themed room in mine. As soon as I manage to get my game up and running again I'll take some screenshots of it and post them here. It's not very impressive, admittedly.. But it's also my first foray into something like this, I've never 'built' anything other than Heroes in CoH so that considered I think I did pretty good.
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Quote:How much must have that cost in time and effort? Although that's pretty darn cool.Originally Posted by EatAChinchilla
Have you tried the sticky threads up above pertaining to superhero and villain groups? They're how I found the Artful Dodgers, which is proving to be the coolest team I could imagine. @_@ Their base is so freaking cool. (They even have a sub-SG base for pure set design, like churches and hospitals and burger stops!)
Having never joined an RP-SG this makes me somewhat tempted to break my whole little 'lone wolf' thing and try one. -
Quote:Well, I'd like to say I've tried to amend things is all it is. I know and believed as a pessimist that nothing good would come of this, so seeing many react as adversely as a pack of rabid hyenas to a wounded person is no surprise.Originally Posted by The_Spartan
Look here, new person. I'mma just....put this into simple terms so you can grasp it like the pistol grip on a well made weapon.
This kinda **** is the equivalent of strippin' naked, paintin' a crosshair on your chest and screamin' "LOOK AT ME!"
Not everyone is gonna like you.
Not everyone wants to know you.
Not everyone gives a damn what you have to say.
But this kind of thing makes you a potential target for "the lulz" as some folks so eloquently put it. I ain't attackin' ya, darlin'. I'm just tellin' ya how it is. You might as well save your pretty words and your attempts to make amends with folks here because in the end, it don't mean a damn thing.
Frankly, I did try. At this point there's nothing more to say, so I'm going to walk away from it the same as I've done in the past and will continue to do in the future. I won't be the puppet of drama, I'm just going to keep my opinion more to myself in the future but I'm going to continue to post and I refuse to be driven out by people claiming drama when they're the only ones perpetuating it.
I fully understand not everyone is going to like me, trust me. That's why I can do this so easily. I both don't care but at the same time my reason for wanting to amend things is purely personal, as a Buddhist I'm required to at least make an attempt in an effort to grow as a person spiritually and mentally. If I don't have humility and forgiveness I'm just another egotist talking out my bum. I won't be that and I won't be a sell out.
Anyway, Virtue. Good or bad, I'm here to stay. -
A couple people are getting the point of my post here. The point of my post here is to live up to some things I've done wrong, frankly I think that's a good thing. But I like how I'm being flamed nevertheless and it's being called things like, let's see.. What are the tags that have been added by flamers? "virtue drama" and "look at me! look at me!" very nice.
I think at this point I'm going to be a little more harsh and say, step back. Look at yourselves, those of you that are doing this. Now which of us is causing drama? I'm here trying to act maturely, fix this and apologize for earlier transgressions that may have offended others and those of you that have, returned and started flaming me for no reason. -
Welcome. Hope you enjoy your stay, watch the piranhas.
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Probably not a great idea, I doubt this will accomplish much more other than getting me flamed more but at least if nothing else I can say I tried to be diplomatic and I did attempt some sort of fix here. Frankly lately the forums have been a very hostile place, not just towards me but towards others. I don't know why, I guess it's just the nature of the internet. People just gotta be right and they've got to berate and try to make others bad so they can be, I'm down with that.. That's the internet, frankly I don't do it myself and even if someones out there flaming the crap outta me, insulting me left and right and calling me names and all sorts of stuff I don't meet it with the same behaviour, I just try to ignore it and move along. People breathe a lot into things posted on the internet, often times they construe some meaning or intention where there isn't one and frankly they have no place doing that because honestly how are they to know what a person meant, the tone they had, their intention in saying something or their emotional state when saying it when it's just in text? They don't.. But people still insist they do know and more often than not that ends up in endless flame wars.
I'm not gonna come in here and tote myself around all high and mighty claiming never to be wrong, I'm wrong plenty and I'll be the first to say I make my fair share of mistakes and misjudgments, but frankly I think people are being ridiculous on these forums and a lot of people are just looking for fights for the sake of fighting, talking out their rears and thriving off drama because they need to feel important about something. Is this straight forward? Yeah. Probably more straight forward than many people on this forum can handle, I'm probably being so blunt that people with a guilty conscience are going to be offended and try to flame me for it, try to insult me for it and try to make me look bad for it. Like I said, whatever. I try to ignore this.
I've said some things in the past that have been construed as 'racist', am I racist? No. I've said this, but I wasn't listened to. The same people I'm talking about who I told flatly to that I was not racist continued to ignore this and claim I was racist, this is an example of someone flaming me and just trying to make me look bad. It's foolish and immature behaviour.
Was my comment a little tasteless? Perhaps. I hadn't considered that people were so sensitive on this forum and so easily offended, I hadn't thought that they'd take it so seriously and take it so deeply. For that, I'll say I'm sorry. But I'm also going to say again, I am not racist. You know what I am? I'm a twenty three year old Australian born mutt breed Chan Buddhist woman. You know why I say mutt breed? Because I've got an interesting ancestry and family line, from French ( Acadian ) to Japanese, to Chinese, to Australian and even to some Irish but I am not racist. Despite a connection with all these cultures and a deep respect for many of them I can still make jokes about them. I make jokes about myself too, all the time. You know why? Because I don't take it seriously, because racism is something that's stupid and worn out and frankly even if I make a joke you construe as racist perhaps you should take a step back and reconsider. I'm making a joke about many times, my own ethnicity and I don't find it offensive, why do you? It's a JOKE. Okay, given.. Not everybody is gonna find the same joke funny but even so, why freak out about it? If you don't find a joke funny, fine. Move on. Don't spaz out and flame someone, spouting off slanderous and derogatory groundless accusations against them because you didn't like it.
I'm not a jerk, I'm really not. I'm laid back, I'm easy going and I don't like drama. You know how you know I'm telling the truth here? Cause every conversation that got too heated ( where I started to get flamed out of control ) I stepped back and said "You know what? I had my say, I'm gonna excuse myself now" and stopped posting in it. It's a lot better than staying there and arguing for a fort night about something that doesn't matter in the end anyway.
People get their feelings hurt too easily. You gotta remember, not everybody is the same. No, not everybody is gonna go by your opinion and sometimes people are gonna say things that may downright offend you personally, but you know what? That's life. Diversity is the great spice of life, all different flavours, cultures, people and humour. That's the point of the world, diversity because if everybody was all the same it wouldn't be very fun, now would it?
I make jokes some people find off colour from time to time, yeah. Do I think they over react to them when they flame me and go off the deep end over this stuff? Yeah, I do. That's my opinion, I'm allowed to have it. If you don't think you are, fine. But do me a favour and really think. Think to yourself, is this what is right? Arguing with one another, letting bad blood form and all this over a disagreement? A lot of these people act as if they're superior, well I got news for you. It takes more strength and will power to turn the other cheek and walk away from one of these little flame wars whilst others have their little go poking at you, spouting slanderous comments and accusations at you and just generally picking away at you than it does to stay there and just keep arguing.
I'm having my say here because honestly, I'd like to be a part of this community. I want people to understand, yeah. I voice my opinion, I voice my opinion pretty aggressively and I know I do. I'm entitled to that, just like you're entitled to disagree with me. But disagreeing with me and flaming me are two different things and I promise you right here and right now, you'll never see me flaming another person and I never will. It ain't my style. If I don't agree with you, I'll say I don't agree with you and I'll illustrate my reason for not agreeing with you and my logic and rationale for why I think you're mistaken but I will not call you names, I will not make slanderous accusations against you and I will not sit here all night arguing with you when the conversation has degraded from an actual debate to simple mindless bickering.
And for those of you that think you're just so smart and so superior, I've got a challenge for you to prove your worth. Shouldn't be hard if you're as great as you seem to think you are.. That challenge is this; it's a lot harder to get to know someone and admit maybe you were wrong about them and maybe they're alright than it is to condemn them on spot, decide you hate them and treat them like crap from that day fourth. Why don't those of you that think you're so much better actually try to get to know the people you disagree with? Not just me. You may find we're not so different and not so bad after all.. Heck, you may make friends with us. Isn't that a scary thought?
A lot of points are going to be touched on no doubt, I'm trying to be very thorough. Oh, as for me being a Buddhist? I never said I was a particularly good Buddhist, but I do try. I'm trying right here and now to mend wounds and ill feelings amongst people in the forums not just with myself but with others because that's what I do.
Think about it. Seriously think about it. Don't just open up the reply button and instantly start typing some diatribe about how venomous I am and how bad others are this, that and the other. Really consider.. Because I've admitted I was wrong in a lot of ways and now it's your turn.
Hopefully we can get a few hugs out of this and a few people will be just a little less bitter in the world. But, heck.. Even being a Buddhist, I'm a pessimist, I'm not expecting anything.