Market Prices are beyond HIGH

Kil is King of the Thread.

The tag 'marketears' is priceless

OK, maybe iI came off a lil strong in my 1st 2 posts....
Maybe you don't know enough about the player that is @Kilspyke...


Let me clue you in a lil....

I've never had a billion inlfu/infamy on any one toon.
The people that i play with dont care about what you have in your build, if you can play yer toons, yer in, period.
99% of my toons are Ioed out, but NONE of them have more than 6-700 influ invested in them.(some of those might be by old market prices, but I'm going buy influ in em, not what it would cost now)
I havent pvped since i13 cuz i hate the changes, but thats another arguement, but if you came to this game for PvP, you wasted yer money. There are much better PvP games out there.




All that having been said, I think my last post admitted that the market isn't 'fair' if you want X IO right now. If you can't wait, eat the price and shush. Devs aint gonna mess with drops or try to manipulate the market just for you...
Do you think you are the 1st player to start a thread about unfair market prices....
Please search the forum before starting a new thread....


KKBAI

But you do a stone tank.

A purpled and IOd stone tank.

or super-jump.

lrn2pharmz ?

If I'm not mistaken, didn't the devs "fix" the market by adding the merits?

Oh and sometimes you should cry moar before actually playing the game..

Ya know what, YEAH I have 8 toons priced over 900mil, and 20 more that hover around that area, and guess how I got it.. Playing the game, playing the market, and playing with you.. Know why?

It's a Game, you play it. If you wanted something easy play Hello Kitty Funtime land, or something with a cheat code...

So cry moar, suck it up and buy my IOs I'm selling..

KK

p.s. Just like what Kil said, the people you should worry about are the ones who enjoy the game, and not who measure your bonus list.. Get over it..

Happy Merry ChrismaHanaRamaKwanzaDonika!

The question is not that much about whether purples and rares should be expensive or not, but how expensive they should be. 100 mil, 1 bil or 2 bil? There is no right answer on this issue. It's a subjective decision of the dev.

In fact, this discussion never ends no matter what the price is. Let's say if the drop rates are higher such that EnD_Reitanna feels that it's ok, there will be other people come up and say that they don't play as much as EnD_Reitanna, and the the drop rates should be further raised. Maybe till we get to the point that everyone can fully purple out, then people will start to complain that the game is too easy and nothing for them to do.

Regarding the fact that rare IOs are not needed to play, it is true. However, I think it's human nature to pursue something better. Even my rational mind says that purple is completely unnecessary, I still feel the desire for it in the bottom of my heart.

But anyway, as a reply to the first post, yeah, I think the prices are high. However, it's not so high that it's impossible to buy a couple. Probably, it's by design.

Yeah inflation is nuts right now.
Inflation is also inevitable when people have the ability to generate ridiculous amounts of inf and most of it doesn't actually get spent on anything, just shuffled around from one rich person to another.
Which, unless the devs introduce an ongoing inf sink that the kinds of people who enjoy generating lots of inf and buying fancy shinies would actually sink inf into, will keep happening.
An ongoing inf sink that rich people will keep sinking inf into but not-so-rich people won't whine about is...not gonna happen.
Now go run some content until you get a purple, sell it to someone who doesn't mind paying these "ridiculously high" prices, buy yourself a perfectly good mid-range build with the proceeds, and stop whining.

Personally, I'm not even worried about the PvP & IO recipes. Yeah, they're VERY expensive, and I wish they weren't. But *shrug*.

What I'd rather see is a drop in merit cost for IO recipes. Not saying making it huge drop...but drop it some!

Example, Kinetic Combat: DAM/END...that's like 200 merits. Now, if one is looking to get it at level 33, most likely going to have to buy it with merits.

Or, make it so you can random roll for recipes at the level you WANT them, with both merits and AE tickets.

Sadly, I can say I want them at lvl 33, but if I'm higher, it puts them at my level or the highest lvl possible for the IO. :/

Since I16 and the drop fix came out I've received six purples on four different characters. I've tracked the number of kills with the chat log, and it's somewhere north of 20,000 mobs (mostly soloing +0/x8 groups, but got one purple teamed). This drop rate seems within the expected statistical variation. I estimate that's about 80 hours over a 10-week period, or eight hours of play a week. I played more than that, but much of that time was spent playing lower level characters that aren't eligible for purples.

I don't have purpled out characters (I have four or five purple sets on as many characters, most of which I bought before prices went sky-high). I have IOed builds, but no PvP IOs, or LotG: +Recharge, or Numina: Recover/Regen, or the other crazy expensive stuff. Just bread and butter uncommons like Crushing Impact and Thunderstrike, and rares like Positron, Scirocco and some Obliteration (getting very pricey these days).

The truth is that tankers can fairly easily solo most standard +0/x8 content (Council and CoT are generally easy at level 50 for most tankers) with uncommon and rare IO sets, and probably with SOs (though I admit I haven't tried this because I don't have any characters with SOs anymore). You do have to use a lot of inspirations and know when to cut and run to avoid face-planting.

And the honest truth is: you simply do not need purples. They do not provide a broad variety of bonuses: mostly they just have recovery, fire/cold resist, accuracy and recharge. You can already get accuracy bonuses out the wazoo with uncommons and rares, most characters using IO sets don't have end problems, and the incremental damage resistance values provided are next to useless. The only great thing about purples is that vaunted +recharge, and the fact that those bonuses work when exemped. But unless you're PvPing in Siren's Call, you don't really care all that much about exemped bonuses.

Complaining that the average player can't afford purples is akin to complaining that the average American can't be CEO of a Fortune 500 corporation. These things are rare, and unless you do the work and spend the time you won't get them. You don't need to be a CEO to be happy, and you don't need purples to be happy with your character.

The devs have in fact arranged things so that it's easier for players to get purples. The problem is that most teams aren't as efficient as a solo player time-wise. If you play on a pickup team or a TF you waste an inordinate amount of time waiting for people to show up, zone, refresh SOs, go AFK for bio break, yada, yada, yada. Many team leaders still spend more time packing the team with a full eight players than they do running the missions, even though there's no longer any reason to do so: if any one well-designed tanker can solo +0/x8, that same tanker teamed with a decent defender and blaster should have more than triple the defeat rate, which means more than triple the drop rate.

And it's not just tankers that can solo +0/x8. I have a Fire/Dark corruptor that does quite well, and you don't need a tricked-out build. Heck, I can even solo that with Storm/Electrical Blast defender (but it's pretty slow, I admit), an Ice/Ice blaster, and many controllers. And you don't really need to run at +0/x8: -1/x4 is much easier, quicker, safer and probably more mobs/minute, meaning more chances for purple drops. But that's not much of challenge.

If I recall correctly, you need about 105% global, above and beyond the roughly 100% in Hasten from (over) slotting it with 3 level 50 common IO recharges.