The City of Heroes Super Booster IV: Martial Arts is out!

Give it a week for the novelty to wear off.

And, to be honest - if you think this is bad, just think back a few months. Remember Atlas Park after MA was released? Even low population servers where choking on the Atlas traffic then. This booster is nothing compared to that!

This is the second time I've heard someone refer to "Walk" as the reason for the emergency maintenance. Until a redname confirms, I'm extremely skeptical that the introduction of a new non-combat power broke the servers. Also, the game was only "unplayable" for a couple of hours, since they rolled back to a previous build. When they *do* introduce bugs that literally break the game, they get them fixed right away, or remove the patch until they can make it playable. I also doubt the booster pack is contributing to the lag, unless it's due to the larger number of people online. In which case it's not a bug, and the pack is doing what it was meant to do: increase revenue for the company, and get more people in the game.

Besides, your original statement is still utterly missing the point. The people who work on the booster packs, i.e. the animation and costume design departments, do not have anything to do with fixing bugs. The people responsible for fixing bugs are continuing to work on fixing bugs. If they stopped releasing new content the bugs wouldn't get fixed any faster, because the people working on the new content can't just go over to the bug fixing department and start poking at the code. If you know of any COSTUME or ANIMATION related bugs, by all means feel free to post those in the appropriate threads so they can be addressed. But complaining that new content has been released while a totally different department is still working on bugs?

Look, I understand the idea behind making the product shine before releasing new content, I really do. For several issues I had sworn up and down that I didn't care if [the next issue] introduced NO new content at all, and was just a whole bunch of bug fixes. I would be fine with that. However, that's a horrible business model. City has been around for over five years now, and their productivity and profitability has only improved over time. One must assume that they know what they're doing.

I understand that YOU think their business model is backwards. Do YOU have a successful MMO business with over 100k subscribers and five years of history? Do you own any business at all? Is there any reason that the executive staff of Paragon Studios should abandon their current business model and hire you as a consultant? Or are you possibly just angry at something that has nothing to do with what's actually causing your anger?

I want bugs to be fixed too. Ending the booster pack program and ceasing the construction of any new content will not help us get bugs fixed any faster. That's the point people are trying to get across. Your anger is simply misdirected.

Thank ya sir.

There's only two ways this can happen.

1) You make everyone who doesn't normally do work with bugs, work with bugs. Artists, world map designers, people who balance rewards, and people who write stories have to work on bugs. Note that they don't know how to, so this is either a disaster or they sit in the corner.

2) You send 90% of the devs home. Then you sit back and watch as the bugs continue to be found and fixed at exactly the same rate they are now. Because the people who do that are a certain team who is working even while BABs and Jay are designing cute things for a booster pack. Progress comes to a screeching halt so that nothing can change with the rate of bugfixes.

So which were you shooting for when you made your suggestion?

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Booster pack costume parts are available in the AE simply by purchasing said booster pack.

If you don't purchase the booster pack yourself, you can play arcs that use those costume pieces, but you can't create one using them.

Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

Actually, in the latest patch notes, it was specifically mentioned that Walk was NOT the cause of the problem.

Of course not. Trolls troll, it's what they do.

Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

You know, I *thought* I had read something to that effect, but I couldn't for the life of me remember where, so I was more apt to assume I'd dreamed it. Thanks for confirming. :]

Ludicrous. Castle is way too smart to get caught on camera.

• And that's worked out so well for them every time they've done it.
• And of course Microsoft is the perfect company to use as an example of fixing all the bugs in the product before asking for more money from its customers.

I like you. You're silly

Now, I admit the root cause would most likely be related to such, but who knows where such bugs might spring up.

This is the Natural booster.

Or at the very least, the first one. They might very well make a second pass at Super Boosters for all the origins, once they've done the Mutant pack which should be coming up in the next 3-5 months.

Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

So he's a ninja?

Another reason why ABC's original complaint can't hold water is something BAB's had said a while ago (*Too lazy to look it up the entire quote*) but anytime one bug is fixed, the code that fixed that bug may very well release one from an older fix.

The example he had given was the AI suddenly using a power it hadn't used in several years.

So basically it boils down to, until the entire entire entire entire entire ent (5 1/2 years worth of entire) system is combed through an uniformed fixed, bugs will always pop up.

Well, true. I was referring specifically to the new clipping issues, texture problems, etc. Bugs related to the pack itself.. which you are correct, may pop up outside the scope of animation or costumes.

Right. And then even if they got 100% of every single bug fixed.. the moment they released new content a certain percentage of those bugs would become un-fixed, and there would be an introduction of totally new bugs that they'd never seen before. The game will never be 100% bug free, which is why it's ridiculous to demand that all the bugs be addressed before new content is developed.

I mean, just look at the positive reception the booster packs get. Some people like certain boosters better than others, but in all they seem to do very well. Which is a great revenue stream for Paragon Studios - there's simply *no* reason *not* to take advantage of it.

I know, I was simply stating that one of the major issues with bugs creeping up now is that, if I remember correctly, there have been atleast 30 different people over the past 5 years working to fix bugs with their own special coding or style. So agreed in that bugs will always been here, name a video game that doesn't have bugs? Pong? I think the AI on that game cheats though so that may be a bug..

But the thing I dont understand is that people will argue that a booster pack is
A) worthless to buy,
or B) not enough in it,
or C) doesn't fit their ideas,
or D) it isn't what should have been released,
or E) doesnt address one issue or another,
or F) Atleast 2 of the above.

The boosters are fun little projects..

forget G) Buying the pack will makes your toon over powered compared to those that dont buy the pack

The boosters are fun little projects to try out for the Dev team, much like Sunstorm making Earth Assault, he did it just to get familiar with the system and how it worked and it actually made it into the game. Which could have been what happened with Ninja Run, Unnamed Gun-ninja Animator played around with Ninja Run, showed it to BABs and BAB's said "Hey thats pretty good" and SexyJ came in on a sexy unicorn with the costumes already designed. (The last part is obviously a lie.. SexyJ has a chariot pulled by 2 Unicorns)

Once Going Rogue launches, I'm sure we'll see alot more content then we have these last couple of issues. I'm not saying we've been light on content, I'm saying that the majority of the attention has been diverted to GR, and we'll start to see more released for all three sides of the coin.. Heros, Praetorians, and Rogues.. cause Dev's hate Villians and Vigilantes cause they wanna be villians..

Feel free to express your displeasure by declining to purchase the booster pack. As for me, I've already purchased it for both of my accounts.

In fact, a redname did specify that it was a "map instability issue" in this post. So, no, not an animation issue.

I like it with the Bandanna, and The Creamsicles are awesome colors... Go BUCS!
Outfit is a winner in my book want a bit more pirate try an eyepacth, But I like it.

AV

by Star Ranger 4 WIN LOSE OR DRAW, WE WILL FIGHT. WE ARE HEROES This is what we DO!

Ninja run works great undercombat conditions with sprint.

AV

by Star Ranger 4 WIN LOSE OR DRAW, WE WILL FIGHT. WE ARE HEROES This is what we DO!

I logged three bugs months ago (via the online reporting system) that have not been address. One is the crab pack appearing on every slot of a dual build toon, the other is that applying the predefined insect armour to a crab spider results in the entire costume changing to plain when accepted. The third is that only the first costume slot can have the widow or spider pieces (as appropraite).

Over the years (4) I have logged a number of bug reports for different bits of the game and none of them have ever been fixed.