Time to merge some servers???

Which loss of players?

When thousands of players left for CO and stayed there cause it's such a good game. vv

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Quit it.... Now you are just being mean!
You are twisting the arm of my /sarcasm meter way too hard!
It squealed!

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... Is that a Richard Nixon smiley?

Nope, it's a shrug! vv

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Oh, okay. I guess if it was a Nixon smiley it'd be >--<.

Hmm. vv

That looks more like he's the centerpiece of a bowtie. \/

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

The loss of players hanging out in AP shouting BOSS FARM FORMING: LOOKING FOR DEDICATED HEALER: HAVE TANK: HAVE FIREKIN: NEED DOOR SITTERS

bingo.

I'm willing to bet that the majority of the thread starters making these lets merge servers are used to getting on a team and sitting at the door doing nothing. Now that they actually have to play the game... they aren't interested.

Merging servers might address this problem, assuming that the players from the two servers you mashed together all remained playing. That's somewhat unlikely given the numerous problems with merging servers - the copy/paste post for this extremely frequent bad idea exists so that these many reasons can be recounted quickly every time someone proposes this idea in ignorance.

In short, there's no guarantee the merger would in fact fix the 'problem' that supposedly necessitates the merger in the first place. Not a hallmark of a good solution. When the problems outweigh the benefits, you're getting into "don't fix what ain't broke" territory.


Again, this is an assumption - force the player populations of two (or more) servers together because more numbers resolves all these perceived problems. However, merging servers is likely to drive off many players if the numerous problems aren't addressed. Even if they are (and not all of them have evident solutions in the game as it exists today), chances are good that players will still be lost in large numbers over such a change. A change made to increase population that decreases population is a poor change. Just because Server X has 10 people and Server Y has 12 people doesn't mean that all 22 people will play on Server XY. To assume so is disingenuous at best.


Try. Assuming you really believe this poor notion is a good idea and aren't just trolling to pass time, that is. The onus is on the person suggesting change to make the case for why the game we all pay to play should be altered. If a convincing case for change cannot be made or if the negatives proceeding from the change are likely to be greater than the positives, no change should occur. That's the case with this issue, as I've yet to see anyone make a convincing server merge argument. About the best I've seen is the position that, at some undefined point in the future, NCSoft may need to merge servers if profit margins necessitate consolidating their maintenance costs - and there's nothing I'm aware of now that suggests that day is anywhere on the horizon.


Handwaving a point away doesn't invalidate it. Community is a key reason many people play and remain playing MMOs. There's a considerable social aspect to this type of game and I've met countless players who will attest to some variant of "I'd have quit long ago if it weren't for _______ SG/global channel/server community." Toss that out the window and you get some fallout, no way around it. Our servers have existed for over five years and each has its own standout well-known active players/personalities, its own general culture, its own set of global channels and of course its own gaggle of SGs. Even if the name issues were somehow resolved, there's an issue with taking away someone's server identity. Many players play exclusively on a single or on a very few servers, a "home". Demolishing one's home, even if it's to build a shiny new house, is not without consequence.

I invite you to provide this evidence. Aside from the caveat about a possible pipe-dream serverless system at the time that server transfers were introduced (more as a CYA than anything else), I'm aware of no such 'evidence' and find the claim dubious. So no, it shouldn't have been done a long time ago and it shouldn't be done now. Ignoring the problems with the idea doesn't make them any less problematic.

You can repeat that statement as much as you like, but if you can't put a rational argument behind it then you are unlikely to convince anyone that this idea is anything other than a terrible notion.

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Your friends using /hide to get away from you doesn't mean the rest of us need server merging.

Did you bother reading the cut/paste? Have an answer to the loss of SGs, the loss of time putting the SGs together, the loss of bases, the loss of a great deal of stuff in storage, what to do with people who are seasonally out and would only come back to a no-longer-extant server (and all the stuff in their SGs gone) and the like?

No? Or are you just going to *assume* the SG, the bases, etc. can be moved? And what if not everyone goes to the same servers - or some choose to stay?

I have a better idea. Shut down Freedom, and force the people there to spread out to the other servers. I *like* my servers. I like Pinnacle, Guardian, Victory, Infinity, Champion, Triumph and the like.

Don't like that solution? Then keep yer damn hands off MY servers.

See my Guides and Tutorials

I say that I would prefer not to go through the inconvenience of server merges (name contention, loss of cpu cycles, sg issues) so that I will be available to play with you at your convenience.

Its going to happen at some point, why do i say this, because it has happened in every other mmo once it starts dropping below a certain point.

Are we at that point yet, I dont know.

Id be happy if they had maybe a few free transfers for christmas or something then I could pull all my characters off justice.

Justice is impossible to find teams at any time other than prime, and it stinks.

Seriously? Justice is pretty well populated. Have you tried joining JFA2010?

And really, on none of the servers is it "impossible" to find teams, except possibly in the dead of night.

Only if they add OS trolling to the ban for a week list.