I do think that it should automatically tag your name in it when you send it, either way.
Or just get rid of it, yeah.
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So don't read them. I find the neg comments I get and the current rep implementation amusing.
/jranger
EDIT: Pondering it further, I'd be ok with the comments being autotagged with the sender's name. I'm still against removal of the system.
Be well, people of CoH.
I'd prefer the rep system went away 100%
If not then automatic tagging of the person leaving the rep should happen.
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
So don't read them. I find the neg comments I get and the current rep implementation amusing.
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I like it simply because its hilarious to see what some people think and its not as annoymouse as you might think, just look at the time you were neg rep'd and the time of the replys on the thread or the language used and its fairly easy to see who made the comments.
s'Funny stuff.
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Speaking as someone who rates people once in a blue moon, perhaps it would be better on your part if you didn't call the target audience 'used toilet wipes'?|
Originally Posted by SwellGuy
Or make it non-anonymous for neg repping so I can return the favor to those cowardly used toilet wipes.
I am sick of the stupid comments people make in them. If the star system had to go, this has to go with extreme violence. |
But yes, I wouldn't mind the reputation system being removed entirely.
I don't like it!
*Please wait while Crazy_Dragon slams his own head off his keyboard repeatedly at yet another thread demanding the removal of rep. Thank you.*
Okay, I'm done. No. Rep does not need removing. What does need to be done is for the users to:
1) Report the comments by following the link to the repped post and reporting that post, explaining the rep comment.
2) Disable your rep and hide the comments by collaping that little it at the bottom of your UserCP if the comments are bothering you that much.
3) Kindly run this through your head: "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me". This should not have magically stopped being true when you entered adulthood.
There's no need to remove a system that's only being abused by a few inbred, poorly-raised imbeciles for the purposes of cyber-bullying.
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/still supports removal of rep entirely, just like the star system went away.
Rep BeGonne.
It only tells us who is popular and who is not. I prefer to form my own opinions and consider the rep system to be useless and more a griefing tool then anything useful.
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Uhm. You DO know the link just links back to YOUR OWN post. So, in essence, you want us to report ourselves?|
Originally Posted by Crazy_Dragon
1) Report the comments by following the link to the repped post and reporting that post, explaining the rep comment.
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Uhm. I'm going to have to say "ARE YOU *BLEEP*ING KIDDING ME?" on this one. It's this sort of lack of attention to detail that gets posts dismissed out of hand.
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You do realize that the mods told us to do that, right?
Be well, people of CoH.
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It doesn't even tell us that. It lets us know which people have gotten people either agitated or amused/grateful enough to actually hit them with rep, or, as is just as common, whether a person has "farmed their rep" (such as happens with some of the people that have max rep but fewer than 500 posts).|
Originally Posted by GrinningSpade
It only tells us who is popular and who is not. I prefer to form my own opinions and consider the rep system to be useless and more a griefing tool then anything useful.
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The biggest problem with forcing names to be attached to rep comments is that it would oftentimes generate revenge rep at the person that did the neg rep in the first place. People wouldn't neg rep even when they felt it was appropriate because the other person would neg rep them right on back. Anonymity at least protects people from reciprocal reputation wars, which would be far worse than the anonymous spitballs that we have to deal with now.
My biggest problem with the rep system is more involved in how it displays and how easy it is to abuse. I've seen any number of individuals with barely any contribution and no real notice that have near full bubs simply because they posted in the rep farm thread. They didn't actually generate any real reputation so reputation itself doesn't mean anything. It also doesn't help that it's possible to get no rep from some approvals because of how the system operates, as well as high rep approvals/disapprovals having a gigantic impact upon reputation. 13 low rep approvals mean less than 1 high rep disapproval, which doesn't make sense in the least.
If anything, I'd prefer to have the bubbles system removed in its entirety and instead replaced with a flat reputation score and the magnitude of approvals/disapprovals to be more fairly distributed so that the earlier case of 13 approvals having less influence than 1 disapproval doesn't apply anymore. At most, a high value approval/disapproval should be worth maybe three times as much as a low value one.
It is a pointless system built into forum software, whether it be rep, stars, or any other icon.
It tells you nothing. In fact, you'll find some of the highest ranked posts on such boards come from the meanest, most vile posts.
This board at least lets us have an ignore feature. As I do with other boards using this software, I turned on the ignore feature immediately and haven't looked back. You can neg rep me until your mouse breaks, and I wouldn't care. 
I've said it before in suggestions like this, but I guess I'll restate my stance. I don't really care for rep one way or the other. I ignore it, so it's not the issue. So in my mind, the only change removing rep would make is that these types of threads would stop popping up.
So I say get rid of it, just for the sake of clearing up some forum spam.
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Originally Posted by SwellGuy
Or make it non-anonymous for neg repping so I can return the favor to those cowardly used toilet wipes.
I am sick of the stupid comments people make in them. If the star system had to go, this has to go with extreme violence. |
Person is idiot, posts something that gets them neg repped.
They see who neg repped them, and go return the neg rep, even though they have no grounds.
I personally agree rep should be removed.
It just shows us how often someone's opinion goes towards or against the "popular opinion*" and how often they post. Nothing more, it doesn't indicate a worth while poster, it doesn't indicate popularity.
*There is of course no uniform "popular opinion" over the entire board. But in 90% of threads you will see the thread eventually take a specific direction, this is, for the sake of that thread the "popular opinion" which disagreeing with will get you negged heavily. (you will of course get negged either way, just more so if you're going against the popularity.)
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I'm in favor of making the whole rep system non-anonymous because it's been shown that anonymity facilitates negativity and prevents practicing reciprocal inspiration.
Originally Posted by SwellGuy
...make it non-anonymous for neg repping...
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Originally Posted by Crazy_Dragon
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3) Kindly run this through your head: "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me". This should not have magically stopped being true when you entered adulthood. |
C_D. I could slap you for that. I really could.
That statement is exactly the same as 'Ignore Bullies and they go away'. Its a bigger pile of doos than an elephant who just ate a man sized laxative tablet.
Tripe, BS, carp and poppycock.
I say add names to the comments. I'd be amused to see how many actually come from people IN a thread, or wether it just comes from drifters who like to -rep people out of some self indulgent spite.
There is a 'proper' use for the system, it'd be nice to see it stuck to.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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'Proper' use of the system would be crippled or destroyed by adding names to the tags. The anonymity is what makes it relatively workable.
The sentiment in the first post explains exactly why.
(My personal sentiment is that the system needs to go entirely.)
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I've got a fair idea where most of my neg-rep comes from. I've also slapped the avatars responsible on ignore.
What is funny to me in the rep-comments that I can see, is that for everytime one of two certain pvp-er's make up enough rep points elsewhere to neg rep me again for a post, I get people also giving me positive rep... for the same post.
I'd also point out that Mepislovers.org gets around the rep system quite well by posting the names of people who leave rep. Also, posts that people Thank are listed as being thanked on the post itself... say like this thread : http://mepislovers.org/forums/showth...709#post197709
So from an empirical perspective, I can state that the non-anonymous rep system works a heck of a lot better than the anon-mouse rep system.
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I was against implementing the system when the upgrade was in the works, but since then I've become ambivalent. Sure people farm rep, and sure some people get butthurt by it (yes, you). But really, it's just more buttons to press on the forum.|
Originally Posted by SwellGuy
Or make it non-anonymous for neg repping so I can return the favor to those cowardly used toilet wipes.
I am sick of the stupid comments people make in them. If the star system had to go, this has to go with extreme violence. |
I'm like BillZ, I like seeing people try to neg rep me for something that other people find positive, and I really enjoy seeing attempted neg reps from people who leave gray bubbles because they're persistently negative.
It's flat out not a big deal, and you need to calm down about it.
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On another (closed) forum, you have buttons you can click (love) (educational), etc.
(Disagree) gets people in such a tizzy that some of us call it "buttonwank" now.
The fact that I'm going to spend next weekend drinking with a group of us that "rubberneck" the forum dramas probably reflects how much I care about neg rep or what people on the internet think about me.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
C_D. I could slap you for that. I really could.
That statement is exactly the same as 'Ignore Bullies and they go away'. Its a bigger pile of doos than an elephant who just ate a man sized laxative tablet. Tripe, BS, carp and poppycock. |
Have a slap. *slap!*
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What?! But I get to say sarcastic comments to strangers on the internet, and my family is still safe! This totally goes against being a super hero. The mask saves lives!
Zomg, I finally just figured out how to even read the Rep comments I received. That can be so easily ignored.
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Originally Posted by Xaphan
I've said it before in suggestions like this, but I guess I'll restate my stance. I don't really care for rep one way or the other. I ignore it, so it's not the issue. So in my mind, the only change removing rep would make is that these types of threads would stop popping up.
So I say get rid of it, just for the sake of clearing up some forum spam. |
This.
Honestly, if comments give you such exasperation, don't read them - easier said than done for some people, I guess, but I only look at them when a thread like this pops up.
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Or make it non-anonymous for neg repping so I can return the favor to those cowardly used toilet wipes.
I am sick of the stupid comments people make in them. If the star system had to go, this has to go with extreme violence.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.