Mission Architect: 2009 Player Awards! Voting
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airhead,
Posted on: 2009-10-14 20:33 in Mission Architect
My vote for Best Short Arc:
1) Celebrity Kidnapping #1388 @PW
2) No Award
Jail.Bird
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I haven't touched the short arc category yet, but the other arcs can't be that bad surely?
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Originally Posted by Jail_Bird
My vote for Best Short Arc:
1) Celebrity Kidnapping #1388 @PW 2) No Award |
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My votes for Best TO Range Arc:
#1 - The Marconeville Horror #178278 @Footloose
#2 - 15+ Minute Tutorial - Knowledge is Power: Architect Entertainment #28470 @Paula
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In my opinion they are. I'm a fan of shorter arcs and I can easily name a number of arcs more entertaining than any of the other four entries in this category. Given that yardstick, no award was the obvious choice.
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Originally Posted by Tangler
I haven't touched the short arc category yet, but the other arcs can't be that bad surely?
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Jail.Bird
My votes for Best DO Range Arc:
1st: Cutthroat Competition #10171 @Frozen Northman
2nd: Ctrl + Alt + Reset #137561 @Bubbawheat
so many arcs yet to play before I can vote all categories...
this has been neat so far. 20+ arcs played, and the quality is obviously way above average compared to hitting the random button. Makes my MA time much more enjoyable than usual, even though I'm looking at things with a critical eye, considering my votes as I play.
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In light of abstentions, vote-changing, and 'no award', i'd like next year's rules to more strictly delineate how the voting is done. I for example assumed that a firat choicecand a second choice were compulsory.
Its not in the rukes that people cant abstain or decide they arent going to give a second place, so we'll have to pit up with it i guess? Whats your take, Bubba?
Its not in the rules that we cant choose the same arc for firat and second either is it? 
eco
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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Originally Posted by Bubbawheat
Since many people will be voting for their nominations, I would like you to make two votes for each category. Your first choice, and your second choice.
[[*]Each category vote should contain a first place and second place vote, and please make it clear which arc is your first choice, and which is the runner up. [*]There's nothing wrong with voting for your own arc, just be sure to add a second vote as well. |
First I want to say thank you to Bubbawheat for running this contest. What a great idea! I have found from events I ran at work that pleasing everyone is nearly impossible.
That being said, I strongly feel that based on the contents of his initial post quoted above people do need to vote for a 1st and a 2nd. I don't think it is fair based on the above to count votes in a category from a voter who voted for only 1st or only 2nd.
As an aside, being allowed to vote for yourself poses an interesting and difficult choice. People are very concerned with perceptions of others and yet most want to win. This is a personal choice and assumptions shouldn't me made about the people who made it based purely on this choice.
@Gypsy Rose
In Pursuit of Liberty - 344916
The Vigilante - 395861
Suppression - 374481 - Winner of The American Legion's February 2011 AE Author Contest
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Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
In light of abstentions, vote-changing, and 'no award', i'd like next year's rules to more strictly delineate how the voting is done. I for example assumed that a firat choicecand a second choice were compulsory.
Its not in the rukes that people cant abstain or decide they arent going to give a second place, so we'll have to pit up with it i guess? Whats your take, Bubba? Its not in the rules that we cant choose the same arc for firat and second either is it? eco |
MrCaptainman, your observations are duly noted and I am sure that the next time people organize a thing like this the rules will be improved upon. Now get back to playing those arcs and vote!
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For the record, I think that Bubba made some good rulings here and that the event is going well. I suggest we leave the discussions about some minor flaws out of this thread and do not attempt to force anyone to change their votes. I am shocked that Dalghryn found it necessary to change his vote because of peer pressure.
Reese Witherspoon's movie, "The Election", captured this dilemma perfectly. Reese votes for herself in the school election; Chris Klein votes for Reese, and then loses the election by one vote. Chris doesn't seem to care about this, and he is likeable regardless. Matthew Broderick, a teacher, finds Reese's attitude so repulsive he goes so far as to try to rig the election against her, which is a far more despicable option. Reese wins, but doesn't particularly enjoy it. Matthew Broderick loses his job. All three get their just-desserts. So really, however people might vote in this process, Matthew Broderick could do it worse.
There's a deadline not yet passed, so vote changes might make sense, I don't know. If voters want to leave hanging chads (non-votes, partial votes, double votes or changed votes) then it's up to Bubbawheat to decide whether to toss them out. I trust Bubbawheat to hold to the spirit of the event, and ignore anything Broderick-y.
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I agree with your points Spade. If anything I'm a bit surprised that this thing is getting so much talk, when there is also the issue that not everyone voting has necessarily played all the arcs in the category they are voting in.|
Originally Posted by GrinningSpade
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For the record, I think that Bubba made some good rulings here and that the event is going well. I suggest we leave the discussions about some minor flaws out of this thread and do not attempt to force anyone to change their votes. I am shocked that Dalghryn found it necessary to change his vote because of peer pressure. |
Edit: I originally wasn't going to bring this up because what faults there are, this comp is still a very awesome idea, and I've been having fun going through all the arcs. But like I said, I only bring this up now because I think a lot of people are being too hung up one aspect of the rules.
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1) I decided to run this contest because I thought it would be fun to showcase a lot of good arcs that might not have been eligible for the official awards, or that players might like better than the devs, as well as to showcase and advertise a lot of the great arcs that are out there, which it has done in spades.
2) I made the rules to help minimize as many possible flaws as I could find, as well as making things as fair as I could make them. Voting for yourself was one that I thought best left to the decision of the author themselves rather than making it mandatory.
3) Currently, there are only 2 votes that disrupt the rules by only choosing one candidate. If they choose to add a second, that would be great, and please do so in a new post rather than edit your old post as I am tracking votes as we go. But I am just too easygoing of a guy to either force them to add another vote, or not count their vote at all. And this is different than Eva's wanting to choose a third arc, since I feel very few people will find a category so lacking to only choose one arc, but I feel many people would vote for a third if they had that choice.
4) Remember, this is for fun. Yes, there's a prize involved, both in inf and bragging rights, but the most important part is to play some great arcs, which everyone is doing.
Thank you all for your support, and I also don't mind seeing discussion based on the rules. I'm not taking any of it personally. I've been getting too much positive feedback for all of this to do that.
I feel the awards are a great idea and a top notch job has been done with them by Bubba, As with any contest, you learn what works or what doesn't and adjust rules accordingly the next time you run it.
As for this case, it really depends on how results are calculated. If it is done on total number of votes regardless of ranking it will have no effect. Of course there is always the option of deeming any ballet without two arcs listed invalid and just don't count it.
In any case, this is Bubba's call and I suggest we let him decide what he wants to do and just support him no matter what that is.
I know this has to be somewhat of a headache to run for Bubba and I think I speak for most of us here on the MA Stories & Lore Forum and on the MA Arc Finder Channel when I say we really appreciate all the work he has done.
WN
Check out one of my most recent arcs:
457506 - A Very Special Episode - An abandoned TV, a missing kid's TV show host and more
416951 - The Ms. Manners Task Force - More wacky villains, Wannabes. things in poor taste
or one of my other arcs including two 2010 Player's Choice Winners and an2009 Official AE Awards Nominee for Best Original Story
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Shocked? Really? With all due respect, that sounds pretty extreme. "Surprised..." "Bothered..." ...but, "Shocked?" You make it sound as if I'd just stepped out of character by committing murder or something.|
Originally Posted by GrinningSpade
I am shocked that Dalghryn found it necessary to change his vote because of peer pressure.
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I apologize if my decision has caused Bubbawheat any heartache. I also apologize if having changed my vote causes heartache for any of the rest of you. Honestly, my initial reaction to Tangler voting for his own arc in the first place was shock. I just didn't expect that anyone would do so. It was a game changer, and my initial reaction was to jerk my knee.
I didn't change my vote out of "peer pressure," as you assume, Grinning Spade. I changed it because I believed my initial vote was wrong from the start -- not necessarily because I didn't believe my arcs were worthy, but because I simply didn't believe I should have voted for myself. Peer pressure had nothing to do with it. I've been around for 50 years. It doesn't hurt my manhood to realize I'm wrong, fix it, and admit it in public.
Now *I* have opened up a can of worms that has the potential to make Bubba's life miserable. At this stage, I'm damned either way. Changing my vote back for Bubba's sake will only make the matter worse. In any case, he knows how to use PMs, and I trust he'll let me know if I've caused any significant hair loss or silvering. If so, I'll do whatever he needs me to do to fix it.
When it's all said and done, I'd really be upset if my actions were contributors to his deciding not to do this again. I expect most of you would feel the same way.
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As Dalghryn's (wannabe) peer, I... re-holster my taser. Who's next?
There's different approaches here, everyone is from different cultures and has different priorities. There's no wrong answer as far as the contestants are concerned. It's a trivial, if interesting phenomenon. Heck, they even made a movie out of it... which was nominated for an Oscar. Art imitating life imitating arc...
Oh, look, Tangler's got an elephant!
*gives taser to a shocked Dalghryn, points at elephant, runs and hides*
[now back to voting guys. I'm trying to finish Turg part 2.]
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Oh, look, Tangler's got an elephant! |
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Perhaps shocked was to strong a word. Make it bothered then.
Back to business
Here my votes for serious arcs, shame I cannot choose 3 winners here. I really liked Sabrina's arc as well.
#1 Kiss Hello Goodbye #156389 @Kitsune9tails (I like film noir can't help it
#2 Tales of Croatoa: A Rose By Any Other Name #178774 @Silvers1
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Man, I guess the cat's out of the bag now then, huh?
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And not just your smile, all of you!
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******MA Arcs****
Arc 5909: "Amazon-Avatars"
Arc 6143: "Escalation" (Nominee: Architect Awards, Nominee: Player Awards, and Dev's Choice!)
Best Epic:
1st:
The Most Important Thing
No surprises here, I've already gone at length in my review thread as to why I think this arc is good.
2nd:
One Million Eyes
A great retelling of a story from a different perspective, wrapped around great humour and a so accurate representation of a web community.
Edit:The ID for A Warrior's Journey: the Flower Knight Task Force on the first post is wrong btw Bubba, the last digit should be a '4'.
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Originally Posted by Wrong_Number
I know this has to be somewhat of a headache to run for Bubba and I think I speak for most of us here on the MA Stories & Lore Forum and on the MA Arc Finder Channel when I say we really appreciate all the work he has done.
WN |
QFE
Eco.
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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Best DO Range Arc:
#1 - The Invasion of the Bikini-Clad Samurai Vampiresses from Outer Space! #61013 @Aliana Blue
#2 - Ctrl + Alt + Reset #137561 @Bubbawheat
Both were fun arcs with great detail, good twists, and proper challenges for this level.
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Geez, that's the second typo for that arc. It must not like me.|
Originally Posted by Tangler
Edit:The ID for A Warrior's Journey: the Flower Knight Task Force on the first post is wrong btw Bubba, the last digit should be a '4'.
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And, no headaches or pulling out hairs here. I've enjoyed every minute of this, including all the drama - it's fun to read.
I think one additional set of statistics I will be posting with the final results will be the voting calculated based on Dalghryn's method of voting: authors voting in their own category get only 1 second place vote. It's like assuming that everyone votes for themselves as first place, so you just negate all of those votes. I like seeing all these statistics, and already have macros in a spreadsheet tracking most scoring methods. It's interesting to see how one vote right now can change rankings in different ways depending on how I'm scoring the votes.
Bubba, I don't think anyone can reasonably expect this contest to be run perfectly. It's the first time anything like this has been attempted, and you can't account for all possibilities. All that considered, it seems to be going pretty well.
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Darkfire Avenger DM/SD/Body Scrapper
Arc ID#161629 Freaks, Geeks, and Men in Black
Arc ID#431270 Until the End of the World
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Originally Posted by Bubbawheat
4) Remember, this is for fun. Yes, there's a prize involved, both in inf and bragging rights, but the most important part is to play some great arcs, which everyone is doing.
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Thank you all for your support, and I also don't mind seeing discussion based on the rules. I'm not taking any of it personally. I've been getting too much positive feedback for all of this to do that.
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Jail.Bird
Best use of mechanics:
#1 - Macguffin Delivery Service #1567 @Lazarus
#2 - The Beating Heart of Astoria: A Play in Five Acts #170547 @The Cheshire Cat
Players' Choice Awards: Best Dual-Origin Level Range Arc!
It's a new era, the era of the Mission Architect. Can you save the Universe from...
The Invasion of the Bikini-clad Samurai Vampiresses from Outer Space? - Arc ID 61013
In any case, after careful consideration, I'm going to do two things.
First...
BUBBAWHEAT PLEASE TAKE NOTE, I'm changing my vote for Best Multi-Arc:
1st Place - Abstain
2nd Place - The Audition Part 1 #221240 and Part 2 #221241 @MRCaptainMan
Second...
All my votes from now on will be by PM to Bubbawheat.
Yes, I know that -- in essence -- it still appears that I think my arcs are worthy of the first place position. So be it. I have, however, negated the two points I would have received as a result of actually making that choice. Fair compromise under the circumstances. At least it salves my conscience a bit.
The SOLUS Foundation - a Liberty and Pinnacle SG
"The Consequences of War" - Arcs # 227331 and 241496