getting earlier badges???


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Is there a way a player can get the earlier badges? For example, the badges that were awarded to players who signed in during May of 2005??


 

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Not currently.

Certain event badges are available after (Winter event notably), but the anniversary badges are not amongst that group.



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Anniversary badges and the corresponding 5th Column gladiator are the only currently unobtainable badges for those who don't already have them. Add in the number of Vet badges that you are short, assuming they maintain the 3-month pattern indefinitely, and that's the number that you will never (unless they make them somehow available) obtain.


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Anniversary badges and the corresponding 5th Column gladiator are the only currently unobtainable badges for those who don't already have them. Add in the number of Vet badges that you are short, assuming they maintain the 3-month pattern indefinitely, and that's the number that you will never (unless they make them somehow available) obtain.
Power Liberator/Master Thief is also not currently obtainable.


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For those of us with altitis...

I believe the aniversary badges should be made Global and as such if you have one it should be awarded to all characters on your account... Old or New!


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Originally Posted by Coolio View Post
For those of us with altitis...

I believe the aniversary badges should be made Global and as such if you have one it should be awarded to all characters on your account... Old or New!
Agreed... and I only have one of those badges... (or two?)



 

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For those of us with altitis...

I believe the aniversary badges should be made Global and as such if you have one it should be awarded to all characters on your account... Old or New!
I could not disagree more. Those badges are meant for characters, not accounts. For example, it makes absolutely no sense to have a VEAT with the first anniversary badge.


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I could not disagree more. Those badges are meant for characters, not accounts. For example, it makes absolutely no sense to have a VEAT with the first anniversary badge.
Not that I completely disagree with your reasoning, but how much sense does it make for a scrapper that's never had heal other to get Empath?


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For those of us with altitis...

I believe the aniversary badges should be made Global and as such if you have one it should be awarded to all characters on your account... Old or New!
Positron said they were going to try to do that to make up for some of the fallout from the Issue 14 badge apocalypse, but that it might not be possible for them to do so.

After that, the devs kinda went silent on the subject, so either it's planned as an upcoming feature in an issue they can't talk about yet, or they found they were unable to make it work.


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Positron said they were going to try to do that to make up for some of the fallout from the Issue 14 badge apocalypse, but that it might not be possible for them to do so.

After that, the devs kinda went silent on the subject, so either it's planned as an upcoming feature in an issue they can't talk about yet, or they found they were unable to make it work.

You really have to wonder just what would prevent that from happening.


 

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Unobtainable badges is the reason I don't try for any badges at all.


 

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Not that I completely disagree with your reasoning, but how much sense does it make for a scrapper that's never had heal other to get Empath?
Plenty, now. You can get Empath using Aid Other.


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Plenty, now. You can get Empath using Aid Other.
I think I'd rather use Resuscitate. Bigger chunk of HP at once. Especially if you can find a HP-capped tank that likes debt badges. Using both together would work even better.


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Another issue with doing the anniversary badges like that is that some people want to have those badges ONLY on the characters that they have gotten them on.

I think that they should maybe alter the anniversary badges so that you can be given an option IF you have it. For example how the vet badges work with their buttons.

Say if you have an anniversary badge you can click a button next to it to pass the badge to all of your characters. We know they can give badges to accounts (the vet badges or even the loyalty badges to name a few). And the fact that the player him/herself initiates it will give the players a choice and saves the devs the task of finding a way to automatically find everyone with a vet badge and award it account wide.

tl/dr: Add a button next to the anniversary badges that simply awards the other characters on the account the respective badge.


 

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Power Liberator/Master Thief is also not currently obtainable.
Also, three global badges are unavailable: The loyalty badge for remaining subscribed from August-November 2009 (If you missed it, it's too late), and the badges that come with the Collector's Editions of CoH and CoV. The latter two are available, if you can find a copy of the appropriate box, but they are no longer in production, so they can't be obtained through the online store, or most (if any) retailers.


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Also, three global badges are unavailable: The loyalty badge for remaining subscribed from August-November 2009 (If you missed it, it's too late), and the badges that come with the Collector's Editions of CoH and CoV. The latter two are available, if you can find a copy of the appropriate box, but they are no longer in production, so they can't be obtained through the online store, or most (if any) retailers.
The thing is, IF you were subcribed for that period you get that badge on all your new toons any time you creeat one... as for the collector's badge there is only 1 which came from the coh collectors edition. There was a 1 year anniversary badge for cov... while the subject of the anniversary badge and been knocked around TOO many time I think it should be treated like the subcription badge and vet badges... IF you were active during that time then ALL your toons should get it, Heck if they can do it for the winter badges then they can do it for these... and while I would not get the first two anniversary badges since I wasn't palying back then it's like the vet badges, I'll never catch up to those who have a two year lead on me and that's just how it goes, and I have learned to accept *cough* that


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Not that I completely disagree with your reasoning, but how much sense does it make for a scrapper that's never had heal other to get Empath?
A scrapper could feel his enemy's pain. The Hero(tm) should always be compassionate when they disembowel the wicked street thug. Maybe add a /em "there there" autoemote after every kill if you have this badge, to drive the point home.




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I don't think passport is available now either.


 

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I don't think passport is available now either.
Nope. It was only available to European players who trasferred toons from US servers to European servers.


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I don't think passport is available now either.
And IMO, it really should be, if you go cross-server. I know it was meant for the EU crowd to commemorate their departure, but there are like what, twelve of them left in all of the EuroServers, so we should initiate the badge over here in their honor.

...right?

Anyway, to the OP: Some badges are meant to be obtainable under certain circumstances. It's the way it is. If your toons weren't here for the anniversary, they don't get the badge - because they weren't here to get it.


 

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Anyway, to the OP: Some badges are meant to be obtainable under certain circumstances. It's the way it is. If your toons weren't here for the anniversary, they don't get the badge - because they weren't here to get it.
I really don't know why you would want to restrict the badge from people who could have legitimately gotten it. I mean I can understand if it was actually hard to get and people would want the badge to show off that they achieved something. But this set of badges is for just logging in a character.

I do agree that if you didn't have an account for the anniversaries then there shouldn't be a way to get them. But if you have characters with the badge then you could have logged in and got them just as easy with other characters who didn't exist at the time.

So to just try to restrict it like that makes it come off like you don't want people to have the badges so that you can have a leg up on them if you do have them. And seeing as how you yourself DO have them, welllllll.....


 

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Originally Posted by Coolio View Post
For those of us with altitis...

I believe the aniversary badges should be made Global and as such if you have one it should be awarded to all characters on your account... Old or New!
I would like an option to trade a badge in and reclaim it on another toon. It wasn't until the third anniversary that I realized my first (and only blue-side badge-hunter) character had somehow missed the first anniversary.

Thereby effectively ending my need for badge-hunting


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I really don't know why you would want to restrict the badge from people who could have legitimately gotten it. I mean I can understand if it was actually hard to get and people would want the badge to show off that they achieved something. But this set of badges is for just logging in a character.

I do agree that if you didn't have an account for the anniversaries then there shouldn't be a way to get them. But if you have characters with the badge then you could have logged in and got them just as easy with other characters who didn't exist at the time.

So to just try to restrict it like that makes it come off like you don't want people to have the badges so that you can have a leg up on them if you do have them. And seeing as how you yourself DO have them, welllllll.....
I don't want to "restrict" anything. I want badges to retain the meaning they had when they were rolled out (barring badges whose values were an "oops" instead of actual intent: Namely, Empath). We keep nerfing badges to the lowest common denominator. If we do this for players who have it on other toons, then the people who don't have it on other toons will whine louder, state it's not fair, ask why we're trying to keep it from them, yadda yadda yadda. The cycle begins again, and the design is modified, yet again, and the value is watered down - yet again.

It doesn't end, until we man up and cope with the fact of, "BY DESIGN, it's meant for characters who were there for an anniversary." And that's it. Pleading for a badge that your toon couldn't have earned because they didn't login during that period is simply that: Pleading.

So, I'm for UPHOLDING the design of badges, as they are. That's not restricting you. That's just making you face the truth.

As for your commentary of "you have them, so what do you care, hmmm": I'm for logical design. Show me a framework that fits the badge as it is, and pitch it sensibly. I'll argue it logically. Your argument here is "it's just a badge for logging in". You want it to be something "other" than that. I argue for the status quo.

It's THAT simple.


 

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Originally Posted by Turgenev View Post
It doesn't end, until we man up and cope with the fact of, "BY DESIGN, it's meant for characters who were there for an anniversary." And that's it. Pleading for a badge that your toon couldn't have earned because they didn't login during that period is simply that: Pleading.
Actually, every year the developers say it is a bonus to you for logging into the game during a certain period. Given that, it would be acceptable for the developers to change these badges from character->global. Just like Positron said they were looking into.

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As for your commentary of "you have them, so what do you care, hmmm": I'm for logical design. Show me a framework that fits the badge as it is, and pitch it sensibly. I'll argue it logically. Your argument here is "it's just a badge for logging in". You want it to be something "other" than that. I argue for the status quo.
Actually the way I read it, Astrolynx just wants a placeholder (like vet reward placeholders) to be able to copy that badge to their other characters. This would keep the badges to those that did log in during those periods.

5th Year anniversary announcement:
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Beginning at 11am EST on Wednesday, April 29th and continuing until 11:59pm EST on Sunday, May 31st, we will be issuing each individual character you log into the game with, the following 5 Year Anniversary badge:
Yes, by design it is for each character specifically. However it is for out of game actions and reasons, so they should logically be in their own category. As repeatedly suggested, this should be an account category. Veteran Rewards and certain other badges should be moved to the same category.

As to the change from character to global, given Positron's statements in the last year, if the developers can see the reasons to change these badges from their current state then needing to prove "why" is somewhat moot.




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Actually HAVING the badge on one character and wanting it is much different than not having it at all. If you have the badge then they effectively did celebrate the anniversary in some fashion VS a person not having the badge at all shows that they didn't log in at all.

The badges' text says "You have helped celebrate the X anniversary of City of Heroes." Having the badge would show that you DID help and have earned a "4th-wall" badge. Any other 4th-wall badge (A badge given in the context that it is aware CoX is a MMO) is given account wide; the veteran and loyalty badges are examples of this. If you want to get technical, then villains would not be able to get any of them because as the character, a villain cannot celebrate City of Heroes.

Sometimes a badge's core intent isn't always good/helpful. For example the Chosen One badge was a problem with what it did to the AE and so it was removed. I'm not saying that they should remove the anniversary badges, but merely stating that even if this may be some kind of modification, it doesn't mean its bad.

Giving it account wide does not make the badge easier to obtain or nerf it. Its value is not watered down at all unless you want the badge set for its exclusivity. The only people I noticed who are upset about changing this aspect of the anniversary badges are those who already have all of them. And to me that just kind of seems a little mean spirited to be so tenacious on technicality when it will affect them in no way.