Tha evil twinzo00orz in Praetoria
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Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2009-09-23 11:44 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
As it's in the past on our world, I think they're ancestors rather than mirrors - so not every signature hero or villain would have had an ancestor in the Cimerora area 
@Golden Girl
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Praetoria, not Cimerora. He's talking about the Going Rogue expansion area.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
As it's in the past on our world, I think they're ancestors rather than mirrors - so not every signature hero or villain would have had an ancestor in the Cimerora area
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Also, this might not be the same guy, but please don't feed the X.
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Praetoria is not the evil-beard version of Paragon. Good isn't bad and bad isn't good- some character are supposed to be intinsically good or evil, regardless of the differing events. Also, not all characters would even exist in this world, due to the differening events.
Nemesis system? Sure. Shoving it into Praetoria? Not so much...
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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Oops, I read that as "Cimerora" - no idea why |
Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
Praetoria, not Cimerora. He's talking about the Going Rogue expansion area.
Also, this might not be the same guy, but please don't feed the X. |
Ok then, about Praetoria - it's possible we might not exist in a mirror world - our parents might never have met, for example.
Although, the letter we find in the ITF suggests that one of the possibilitites to the writer's identity is that it might be an alternative or ourselves - but if that's true, Praetoria would have some connection to the Coming Storm then...
@Golden Girl
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Not necessarily Praetoria... plenty of other dimensions for dopplegangers to come from. You encounter mention of alt versions of yourself in several portal corps missions for example.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Although, the letter we find in the ITF suggests that one of the possibilitites to the writer's identity is that it might be an alternative or ourselves - but if that's true, Praetoria would have some connection to the Coming Storm then...
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Wherever they come from though, if the author of the letters turns out to be my character from the future/another dimension/whatever, that'll be pretty disappointing (and flat out impossible with several of my characters' backstories).
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Unless you're proposing that the devs develop actual world-hopping tech so we can play against our real-world parallel universe counterparts, that is not even close to how PvP works.
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Originally Posted by MageX
If praetoria is the alternate mirror universe of Paragon,shouldnt we find our evil twins there ? If so ... I propose to be able to design their costume and battle them in pvp whenever we feel like. kickin nemesis buttz.
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I don't care, now I want goatees for female toons so I can make evil versions of my (few) heroic females.|
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Praetoria is not the evil-beard version of Paragon.
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>:[> (note goatee on the emoticon)
Play my arc The Audition and see what your Praetorian counterpart's minions look like! 
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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Yeah, Praetoria gets retconned big time. Now it's not just the Goatee Dimension anymore.
Of course, this only means we need a NEW Goatee Dimension.
I've already created one of my character's praetorian alter-ego as a separate character. As much as I love the idea of having them made 'canon' so to speak, I think I'd rather not limit it to Praetorian Earth.
...still got my fingers crossed for the Nemesis system.
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I read that as ****** the first time...
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Originally Posted by Clave_Dark_5
I don't care, now I want goatees for female toons so I can make evil versions of my (few) heroic females.
>:[> (note goatee on the emoticon) |
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Soo....they should exactly double the number of all characters stored on servers for all accounts. Yupyup. Happenin.' |
Originally Posted by MageX
If praetoria is the alternate mirror universe of Paragon,shouldnt we find our evil twins there ? If so ... I propose to be able to design their costume and battle them in pvp whenever we feel like. kickin nemesis buttz.
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Marcus Cole got lucky. My Praetorian version is in fact evil, but just an insurance claims adjuster.
Plenty of other heroes will be disappointed, too.
"I'm here to defeat the evil version of myself!"
"Oh, he's in jail."
"Really?"
"Yeah, 8 years ago. Poisoned a school cafeteria's food."
"Oh geez. Man...glad you caught him."
"Yeah."
"Wanna get hammered?"
"Sure."
I and one of my SG mates plan to run evil praetorian versions of our two main heroes, only we're swapping. I will play his alternate self, and vice versa.
Looking forward to it.
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I too, plan on playing my characters' praetorian counterparts myself. While I would like a Nemesis system, I don't think I'd like it lodged into Praetoria.
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The female character equivalent to the Evil Goatee is the Leather Catsuit. If your character is already in a Leather Catsuit, or something similarly form-fitting, then the evil equivalent will still be leather, but show a lot more skin. Just like if your male character already has a goatee, the evil counterpart will have long hair, and wear a lot of decorative spikes.
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Originally Posted by Clave_Dark_5
I don't care, now I want goatees for female toons so I can make evil versions of my (few) heroic females.
>:[> (note goatee on the emoticon) |
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I think our nemesis system will be a separate Issue from GR - it's a big enough and cool enough feature to headline its own Issue.
@Golden Girl
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Smallish leather gloves might also be needed, perhaps? Something the evil twin can pull on in an evil way when he's about to do something evil - he might also smile evilly while explaining his evil plan as he puts on his small evil leather gloves.
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Originally Posted by Eisenzahn
The female character equivalent to the Evil Goatee is the Leather Catsuit. If your character is already in a Leather Catsuit, or something similarly form-fitting, then the evil equivalent will still be leather, but show a lot more skin. Just like if your male character already has a goatee, the evil counterpart will have long hair, and wear a lot of decorative spikes.
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@Golden Girl
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I hold on to the theory that Cimerora isn't the past of our world, but an alternate dimension!|
Originally Posted by MageX
If praetoria is the alternate mirror universe of Paragon,shouldnt we find our evil twins there ? If so ... I propose to be able to design their costume and battle them in pvp whenever we feel like. kickin nemesis buttz.
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Would make it more interesting, at least..
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Originally Posted by Eisenzahn
The female character equivalent to the Evil Goatee is the Leather Catsuit. If your character is already in a Leather Catsuit, or something similarly form-fitting, then the evil equivalent will still be leather, but show a lot more skin. Just like if your male character already has a goatee, the evil counterpart will have long hair, and wear a lot of decorative spikes.
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Good catch, hadn't thought of that yet! Another possibility is they look much more goth like in general.
One of my few female heroes (one of my few heroes period, really) is a sort-of ghost; lots of grays and shades of blue. Her evil self then would need to really look dead - circles-under-eyes, white white wild hair, buckleboots, more torn clothes, etc. And striped stockings.
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"I'm here to defeat the evil version of myself!"
"Oh, he's in jail." "Really?" "Yeah, 8 years ago. Poisoned a school cafeteria's food." "Oh geez. Man...glad you caught him." "Yeah." "Wanna get hammered?" "Sure." |
"Ahhhh!!"
"See, he's the evil version of myself. I'm the psychotic version of myself. And the invisible green rabbit on your head kept making faces at me."
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Since all my alts are in a single SG (well, two SGs, I have redside and blueside), it shouldn't be hard to imagine their counterparts are in similar organisations.
I hope not! I've already got mine!
Coin is my main, my hero main, his Praetorian counterpart is Cointerfeit, same origin but instead of being shot with an energy blaster gun, he was shot with a radiation blaster gun, got different powers and a scarred face that drove him insane, especially when he learnt about the original Coin
I might re-roll Cointerfit for GR, if the storyline works ok with it. he's not a high level yet.
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If praetoria is the alternate mirror universe of Paragon,shouldnt we find our evil twins there ? If so ... I propose to be able to design their costume and battle them in pvp whenever we feel like. kickin nemesis buttz.