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Yes indeed there are -- Faultline is a personal favorite of mine. But as I've posted here, I've done most of the story content multiple times over the past 4.5 years (and I enjoyed the heck out of it!). I've evolved in my enjoyment of CoX, and now I enjoy it in the way that I do. This, to me, is one of the great strengths of this game -- the ability for players to sort of set their own paths (to a certain extent) and enjoy one or more aspects of the game at their own speed.
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Originally Posted by Santorican
I'm not crazy about PLing or racing to 50. There are some great story arcs in between 1 and 50...
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That's true to a point. But in other MMOs (like the one you played and especially its predecessor), if you have crap gear, there aint no amount of 'skill' you can possibly have that'll make up for that. You're talking about characters in a raid force with basically the same level of gear. Try having your MT tank a current content boss with two expansion old gear. No amount of 'skill' is going to make that tank sturdy enough to do the job (unless your idea of skill is 'bring more Templars').|
Originally Posted by Domnhal
The Takeaway: gear is not a substitute for knowledge and skill.
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Your point is well taken though. It's just not as universal as you might think.
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Originally Posted by Domnhal
So in the end, MMO's have three types of people when it comes to endgame. Those that work hard and (sometimes) earn their gear and rep. Those that ride the coattales of the first and whine about not having the best gear untill they are placated. And the last group, to which I now belong...those that no longer care and just want to log in and have a good time.
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I should point out the context of the quote was a question from someone who almost certainly had not played the game through yet. Once someone has played the game through at least once, they certainly wouldn't need my or anyone else's advice on whether they should play through again.|
Originally Posted by Eric Nelson
I am certain it was Arcanaville also (I recall seeing the sig quote, not the original post by Arcana).
It stuck in my memory because I completely disagree with it -- I commonly "race" to 50 on every new toon I create, because for me, the game BEGINS at 50. I play my 50s exclusively (save any projects I'm working on getting to 50, and that's usually by using another 50 to help them get there). Of course, many people enjoy playing their characters on the journey to 50 -- and that's great. It's something I really like about CoX, that there are SO many ways to enjoy the game, and there's certainly no "right" or "wrong" way to enjoy it (except for exploits). But I get the quote, and it is a great quote for those who do primarily enjoy the journey. |
But even if my preference was the same as yours now, I would never recommend someone to skip through to 50 under any circumstances if they had not played the game through once yet. I think almost by definition if someone is asking if they should play through, the correct answer is "yes." The correct answer is "no" only for people who aren't likely to ask the question in the first place.
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Absolutely. And the context is key -- in the correct context, I completely agree with Arcana's quote. It just doesn't happen to apply to me any more (although it certainly did at one time). |
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
I should point out the context of the quote was a question from someone who almost certainly had not played the game through yet. Once someone has played the game through at least once, they certainly wouldn't need my or anyone else's advice on whether they should play through again.
But even if my preference was the same as yours now, I would never recommend someone to skip through to 50 under any circumstances if they had not played the game through once yet. I think almost by definition if someone is asking if they should play through, the correct answer is "yes." The correct answer is "no" only for people who aren't likely to ask the question in the first place. |
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The devs have created a game that doesnt need to be played anylonger from 1-49. Its basicly a waste of money to slot anything less then IOs at level 32, most of the time spent playing pre-20 is basicly spent waiting for health and end to regenerate. And then you figure with Flash Back and now the SSK system you can do anything, and perform better doing it after you pass the level range, rather then doing it in your level range. |
Originally Posted by Fulmens
Eric Nelson: What exactly do you do at 50 that is so much better than what you do at 49?
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So frankly im wit Eric, i can totally understand people saying screw playing that they want to PL to 50 and then do what they want to do from there. Infact I think i kinda predicted it to become more common in a thread on the SSK system when you figured that you got 2-3 extra powers on exempt then you do normally.
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I like to play a fully-realized character, one who has all resources available to her/him.
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Since I've played all the stuff through many times, I'm now at the point where I want to spend my time being Spider-Man, Iron Man, Thor, and Superman instead of training to become Spider-Man, Iron Man, Thor, and Superman.
Lvl 50 is just a relaxed state. It's like you've got your cake and are just piling icing on top of it.
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Agreed. Skilled players always benefit from the best gear they can obtain. Players that are...less then skilled, shall we say...recieve little or no benefit from top end gear. I guess it's a case of knowing what to do with it and/or why that piece of gear can make a difference. Beacuse it's shiny and has nifty particle effects doesn't qualify as a valid reason in my opinion. |
Originally Posted by RemianenI
That's true to a point. But in other MMOs (like the one you played and especially its predecessor), if you have crap gear, there aint no amount of 'skill' you can possibly have that'll make up for that. You're talking about characters in a raid force with basically the same level of gear. Try having your MT tank a current content boss with two expansion old gear. No amount of 'skill' is going to make that tank sturdy enough to do the job (unless your idea of skill is 'bring more Templars').
Your point is well taken though. It's just not as universal as you might think. hehehe I like the 'sometimes', that is too true. |
I've "raced" up characters, and I've done it a lot more casually. Sergei is my best example of a character I raced. I already had an end game build planned for him before I even rolled him up, and I had goals I wanted to accomplish with that end game build. So I cranked as hard and as fast as I could, much of it over a double XP weekend, hit fifty, purpled him out, and set about doing what I wanted to do with him. His journey STARTED when I finished purpling him out.
Most of my other characters are a lot more casual about the journey to 50 and beyond. A handful have been level pacted to mostly-inactive characters, almost as much to slow down the journey as anything (I think it's too easy to hit 50 in this game for my personal preferences). I have one other purpled toon, my namesake. I have over 1500 hours on that character. He was all about the journey, never about a particular destination. I very slowly built and evolved a character I loved playing, then got curious what he could accomplish.
Both ended up accomplishing pretty much the same thing, but their journeys were very different.
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That is so full of win. I'm kinda shocked I never thought of doing that. Might just change the way I play the game from here on out!
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I'd add throwing a purple proc into an aoe power to that list.
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Originally Posted by Chowder
That is so full of win. I'm kinda shocked I never thought of doing that. Might just change the way I play the game from here on out!
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great post!
Glad someone has this figured out.
Does anyone think the same applys to pvp IO's?
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I do enough TFs and espically with my Dom, that I intentionaly get some sets lower, to ensure I get my set bonues at a wider level range.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
I'm pretty much the same. I buy Globals at the lowest level possible (even if it means grinding out the merits for them due to low supply), and regular set IOs at the highest possible. The only ones that I don't care about are procs since the IO level doesn't matter.
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