Drop Rates Still Borked

OK, while I dont run Herostats or have any "officially" recognized method of discerning it still "seems" to me that drop rates are way borked on recipes and salvage. I have run several (6) missions set at +0 and +1 set for 7 people. Not one of these missions (same mission all 6 times) yielded more than a handful (5) of recipe drops.

I used to fill these mission with 4 people and would have a full inventory of salvage and recipes when completed. Often I would have to delete "worthless" stuff. No one seems to acknowledge this on the global channels and I often get the comment, "it's fine." But I just dont see it.

Been running several of my lowbies and have gone 10 levels without a single recipe drop. Something seems "off" to me.

Your experiences?

I havent been number crunching or anything, but yes, Ive been experiencing the same low drop rate. My usual set mission for 6-8 players equivalent , +2-3 mobs and will get the usual (pre i16) salvage and enhancement drop rates. With a huge lack of recipe drops Ive experienced pre-16.

I have 2 accounts logged in and each just 3-4 generic recipes out of the 5-6 runs.

Meh!

Did half a lap around the storm palace. I got 3 basic recipes for my "work."
I did 4 scanner missions at +2/x4 w/bosses and recieved 4 basic recipes.

I street swept in the RWZ for 28 minutes and got 3 common recipes.

Yesterday I did 4 scanner missions at +4/x8 w/bosses and received 7 basic IO recipes.

I have no idea how many foes I defeated during those runs. CoT at +4/x8 have 2 boss death mages in every spawn. I assume council also have 2 bosses per spawn at that level.

And yet I recieve ZERO uncommon or rare recipes in that entire time.

Drop rates are BROKEN. Unless, of course, they are now working as intended.

The only fact is that drop rates are drastically lower now than before I-16 hit. This was brought up repeatedly during beta and we were repeatedly told that no changes had been made to drop rates.

So what DID change that has AFFECTED drop rates?

Thanks Bill. You also responded to my comments about this in Beta.

What I really need to do is to "fill" a mission the old fashioned way and see what the comparison is. I tried to do this on test but ran out of time. If filling a mission the old way works then we may have at least a start on this answer.

If drop rates have been adjusted then. . . Wow. . . I can see the markets going over a billion per purple!

This is important, i've noticed this as well and I would like some sort of dev response saying something one way or another.

I also agree with this and said it two days ago and got ripped into about it. I have run a few maps set for 8 +2 and walked away with at best 2 or 3 recipes when pre I16 was filling with recipes and salvage and would have to run to WW or store after a few runs, At this point i could run the same mission all day and not fill up to max.

I got a purple last week on a 7-man team. I dunno, random number god?

Bad luck streaks don't last all the way through beta and follow you to live.

I ran a couple Battle Maiden farms today, both with my wife tagging along and doorsitting. It was set to spawn for 6, at +2 levels. Between the two of us, in those 2 runs, we got a total of 10 recipes, only 1 of which was a non-generic. I ran a third farm later on, with 2 other people on the team (3 total), with the exact same difficulty settings, and between my wife and I we got 6 recipes. Something's definitely up here.

If your getting way more drops set to 1 player than that settles it.

They'll probably fix it in a patch later this week.

Ok, made a new toon. Ran from 1 - 18 in the last day all streetsweeping, scanners, and a couple arcs. Grand total of 5 recipes in mission; 2 of which were set recipes. Salvage seemed ok as did inspirations. The interesting part; after level 6 I was set at -1 for 3 or 5 people.

there a discussion that explains this? i hear this was discussed and dropped during beta. Bah!

I ran two Master 5th Column TFs and did not recieve any rare recipes.

I two Master of Imperious TFs and did not recieve any rare recipes.

I RAN THE MASTER OF STATESMAN TF AND DIDNT RECIEVE ANY RECIPES!!!!

I know master has nothing to do with it, but those were the types I ran. And thats a lot of AVs.
This isn't working, I think it's bugged. Can any redname give a heads up on this? Is it working as intended?

I've been running tests and posting the results in the Market section of the boards. The drop rates are no where near what I expected for running missions set for 8 men. But the most upsetting part is the dev silence on the matter. This is a much anticipated feature that does not seem to be working as expected. Personally it is the ONLY feature of I16 I was looking forward to. When you take the complaints during beta and the complaints since I16 went live, and combine them with the data players are providing as well as our various theories I would have expected some sort of dev response by now.

I will be doing one last batch of testing tonight using Herostats (crossing fingers that it will still work for me). Depending on how long I can stomach the high risk and little rewards, I'll either post the results tonight or tomorrow morning.

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And again, this could also be a case of the devs looking at the wrong data. They are human, after all. People have been typically labeling this as something wrong with drop rates, whereas it could very well be an unintended side-effect of the SSK system. If the devs looked at the data concerning drop rates and saw that, overall, the numbers were in the right area, of course they'd say that drop rates are fine. Because if what some people think is happening actually is happening, those drops are being awarded ... to phantom teammates due to the game seeing a solo player fighting 6-man spawns as a team of 6 players and dispersing drops as it normally would in a team situation.

Actually I meant because it's Monday and the forums exploded this weekend about the drop rates and I've little doubt that some dev mailboxes received more than one PM on the topic.