Killing the Game?
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Hi folks.
I didn't come here to be Rational, Factual, or Accurate. I have a simple question; Are you trying to kill the game? Prices from 250,000,000 to 400,000,000 on Purple sets, and certain Procs are absolutely outrageous. Respec Recipe 200,000,000? Normal players of this game can not come close to spending this kind of influence/infamy when they sell those items. Are you trying to force the Spam Sites out of business with giving this much potential earnings to casual players? Are you a source of sorrow for the Spam Sites? What gives? I have several 50's and have enjoyed playing them, and IO'ing them. I just created a new toon, and at your current Market Pricing, she'll never have a shortage of influence when it is time to buy SOs and common IOs. You think peeps will keep playing when they don't spend all their influence/infamy to IO their toons? Whats up with this? |
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You think peeps will keep playing when they can't IO their toons?
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I might feel sorry for you if SOs or common IOs were selling for 200m, I mean, they're what you need to be able to play and what the game is balanced around after all.
But since your qualm is for things that are supposed to be ultra-rare and not readily available to everyone, keep it up, your tears are delicious. |
this just in, armageddon has been delayed because it is too expensive to happen.
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Edit: What the hell? The forums forcibly lower case that?
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I didn't come here to Rant, Flame, or Troll. |
I have a simple question; |
Are you trying to kill the game? |
Prices from 250,000,000 to 400,000,000 on Purple sets, and certain Procs are absolutely outrageous. |
Respec Recipe 200,000,000? |
Normal players of this game can not come close to affording these prices. Are you trying to force them to the Spam Sites? |
Are you a source of Influence/Infamy for the Spam Sites? |
What gives? |
I have several 50's and have enjoyed playing them, and IO'ing them. |
I just created a new toon, and at your current Market Pricing, she'll never get IO'd out. |
You think peeps will keep playing when they can't IO their toons? |
Whats up with this? |
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'Someone' [OP] is mad about the price that *other players* are *paying* for things. They blame the seller and not the buyer. awesome!
After having played this game for a whopping 5 months, I have received; 3 purple drops (one 'very good' one), a respec drop, and a Numina's (from a random roll). I have built 2 LoTG recharges, 1 Miracle, 1 Numina's proc from merits. 5 months. Im still a 'newb'. I also market because its fun, and FUNNY! (I love buying salvage for 1500, and selling minutes later for 100,000, it makes me laugh, try it sometime!)
Here is a question to you ... what would happen if you got lucky and landed a nice purple proc? What happens if you get that one you are looking for?
I have a feeling you would simply create the IO and slot it in your own character. Why??? why would you do that?!? you complain about the price, but if you get one you wont sell it!!? if it is priced so high then you should be looking for purple drops TO SELL and not to slot!
I think you won't sell it because you are greedy. I think you won't sell that Purple proc because its *WORTH MORE* than 200M inf ... *TO YOU*!!
These ebill's are not greedy. They will sell you those purples, they will sell you a miracle, they will sell you their characters costume if you pay enough. Greedy? No, they want you to have fun, and that is why they post the purples they get and dont just keep them. They put up the purple, or the respec and help you enjoy the game more. If all the purples are selling for 200M, then if you get a drop you might be able to 'trade' it for the one you want. Good deal if you ask me.
And a respec recipe?!?! are you seriously complaining about the price of something that is pretty much free? The price of a respec is the bigest joke on the market if you ask me.
Oh and that fantastic purple I picked up "Hecatomb", I sold. Yes, I had planned to use it my own character, but someone paid 150M for it!! LOL! can you believe it?! I decided it was better to have full sets of rares AND uncommons than that one IO .. but hey that just me.
Oh .. and if you happen to see a recipe you want on the market, dont look at the price, just be thankful someone out there is willing to even SELL the proc you are looking for.
And, if you drive all the other peeps from the game that can't afford to pay these prices, what happens to the playerbase of this game?
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First, you do realize that IOs and Purple Sets are not at all required to play or enjoy the game, don't you?
Maybe you don't.
You see, before Issue 9, there were no invention sets, no market. All we had were the standard enhancements available at the standard vendors. In I-9, the IO system was added. When this happened, the game was NOT made more difficult. The Invention system was optional. There weren't even any Purple ultra-rares yet. Those came later. The Invention System isn't vital to the game. It's FUN, sure! But it's completely unnecessary to success in the game.
So, if you find some IOs too expensive you can just stick with ordinary SO enhancements if you wish and you won't have any problem enjoying the game. If you want IOs, you don't need to get purples! You can do fine on ordinary common IOs or the less expensive IO sets. Just like you can do fine without IOs at all.
Second, making enough to afford anything in the game is up to how much time you want to invest in doing it.
Just today I logged a character in I haven't played in a long time to find they only had a pathetic 50K on them. I went and toyed in the market for about 15 minutes and turned that 50k into 7 million. I could certainly have spent another hour or so and turned that 7 mil into 70 million or more without much trouble, but 7 mil was enough for my purposes at the time so I bought what I wanted and went off to play with cash to spare.
Read the market threads here for tips on how to make money on the market. It's alot easier than you think. You can invest as much or little time as you want in it, and like anything else, the more you do it and better you get at it, the more you can make. I have characters with 100s of million on them. I used to transfer it around from character to character, but I don't usually bother anymore since I can just generate what I need for most of my characters in just a few minutes a day and transferring money is more of a hassle than it's worth. (We need an SG Bank!)
Third, don't be impatient! Think of the prices you see in the market as the "Buy It Now!" price. You can probably get it much, much cheaper if you're patient. Bid what YOU want to spend. You might be surprised when a day or two later that 10mil recipe ends up in your hands for a measly 100K or less.
With the philosophy that stupid questions should never go unpunished, I shall address the OPs concerns
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Normal players of this game can not come close to affording these prices. Are you trying to force them to the Spam Sites?
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Indirectly.
Pain. Or, possibly, herpes ("the gift that keeps on giving").
You think peeps will keep playing when they can't IO their toons?
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You cannot afford anything in this game because you have no skill at it.
EDIT: What the heck does the "Where's my oompa loompa?" tag on this mean??
Prices from 250,000,000 to 400,000,000 on Purple sets, and certain Procs are absolutely outrageous.
Respec Recipe 200,000,000? |
How many marketeers are there that do more than dabble in these? I'd think that they'd would be more likely to deal in commodities that are more readily available.
Of course, what do I know? For the most part, I'm a member of the "I want it now" (or I'll do without) crowd.
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EDIT: What the heck does the "Where's my oompa loompa?" tag on this mean??
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Hmm... as a non-ebil non-marketeer, I have my own question along this line, which I'll toss in here.
How many marketeers are there that do more than dabble in these? I'd think that they'd would be more likely to deal in commodities that are more readily available. Of course, what do I know? For the most part, I'm a member of the "I want it now" (or I'll do without) crowd. |
I imagine that there are some number that do but in general you're correct. Marketeering high-end recipes is a moderately risky and long term strategy. While each one can sell for a decent profit the time required to sell can be quite long so in my opinion the actual profit on a slot/time basis is lower than a lot of other items. Plus the fact that purples are so visible means that there's more competition.
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Hmm... as a non-ebil non-marketeer, I have my own question along this line, which I'll toss in here.
How many marketeers are there that do more than dabble in these? I'd think that they'd would be more likely to deal in commodities that are more readily available. |
It's a tidy, low risk profit.
I like messing around with really expensive recipes because I'm knowledgeable and lazy. Giant profit, low turnover items are my favorite kind.
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The OP came to the wrong place to vent his frustration...
However...to his point...it has to be somewhat discouraging to newer players or those who can only play for 2 - 3 hours per week to see all the great "loot" availble in this game for their characters, only to find out is virtually unattainable. I'm not suggesting it isn't possible for them to earn things, or even learn how to play the market in order to get the necessary funds. But the truth of the matter is that it used to be a lot simpler and, as in real life, the rich keep getting richer and the poor stay poor.
I used to consider myself fairly well off in this game, but the stash of 1 billion influence I have today has a fraction of the buying power it used to have.
/e raises a glass to ebil.
OP:
Im in ur markets raizin ur prices.
edit: This just in, Armageddon has been delayed because it is too expensive to happen.