Apparently, I just need to get over it

1st situation: Yes. Petition the ************. Something like that is innappropriate for ANY setting. If I knew his global, I'd find a way to make sure he got kicked from this game for good.

2nd situation: Yes. Lighten up. Virtual/Real life are two totally different things. Compared to the 1st situation, they are imposing harm on something that doesn't exist. But hey, we all have our 'hot spots' but sometimes all you can do is make the best of things.

Oh, yeah, the first guy absolutely needs to be ignored and reported. Anonymity makes people say silly things, but that doesn't excuse talking about child porn as something one is actively engaged in. The others on the team should have spoken up, but for all you know, some of them could have technically been children themselves; adults aren't the only folks who play this game. I was on a team once that started getting ribald when one of the team members spoke up and informed us that they'd appreciate it if we stopped because he/she was only thirteen. Needless to say, we stopped.

As far as the group discussing video game violence. I enjoy my own virtual violence as much as anyone although I can see where you're coming from. If you were still smarting from the first incident, it's possible that you were still overly sensitive where that subject was concerned especially as you admit to being a parent yourself. I think you probably should have left if they refused to change the subject when asked nicely instead of letting them continue rubbing your nerves raw; however, in this case, they weren't really doing anything wrong.

In all cases, the parties involved have every right to speak their mind; it's one of the best things about our society. However, freedom to speak doesn't always come without its own consequences; the line between knowing when you have the right to expect the speech in question to be stopped and when you should just swallow your offense and move on can be a thin one.

On reading this...

You shouldn't want to get over being a decent human being (or trying to be)! It's something we need more of in this world..

On the second encounter (they were talking about a video game). Ignore is your friend here.

On the first one (the really important one), I'd have reported him, then put him on ignore, and /quit the group.

I don't condone to reporting from the get go. It's ignorant and naive to do so, simply ignoring them is the better alternative I think. Mainly because some subject matter I may discuss can be offensive and I don't care because I'm the open minded type of person that likes to discuss controversial contact and critique it a bit. Yet I mean no ill harm by it and after a moment the conversation moves on anyways. If it's persistent however, aligning with harassment then you did give the person a warning and two at that to suggest him backing off.

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Originally Posted by Thirty_Seven I almost laughed out loud at this part. Sweet and innocent babies? Give me a break. Kids are nothing more than reflections of society with primitive logical capacity, they can be just as malicious and bitter as any adult can, in some cases, worse. I think you need to get out more and re-examine your biases. Sweet and innocent. Wow.

Yeah, the little gargoyles. Spawns of the fiery pits of hell to drive our lives miserable. And it comes back at four and in the teens. Like the common cold.

Okay, I have to wonder what game was the second group talking about? Because it's been a sticking point for anti-game pundits about getting points for this action and I'd hate to see some sort of evidence verifying their claims.

No, you aren't the only one.

In my mind, people who talk about that kind of stuff are sick. I don't care if it's "virtual" or not, because they thought of it. Meaning in their minds, they thought "I'm going to look at child pronz" or "I wanna kill some kids!"

Thankfully, I haven't seen any junk like that in broadcast, as I usually stay faaaaar away from Atlas Park, but I'd definetly report them.

Is it just me or has there been more and more people like this around Virtue since AE showed up? Before people of Virtue would tell people like to go to Freedom,lol, but as of late I don't really see a difference in our servers.

I know, I know, beat the dead horse...

Didn't read the OP's thread just his/her first post. So OP, I hope you reported that person. A GM does need screen shots, they log all chat and can find it if you give them a time it took place. To answer the jack ***, it is illeagel to have pictures of naked children. I hope that person gets f'd up in jail and rot there for a while.

I will freely admit that I'm one of the few people I know that deliberately make a differentiation between pedophilia and pedorasty.
Pedophilia being an attraction to children, and pedorasty being the molestation of children.

In my mind, one is a sickness, whereas one is a criminal offence. What I'm saying is that people have no right to police people's thoughts and fetishes. There are a great many people who could be locked up for idly fantasising about, say, stealing money out of a cashier's till if that kind of thing were to spread to different crimes.

The hysteria surrounding child abuse is immense.

Now, don't get me wrong. I believe that pedorasts should be locked away for a good, good long while. And that extends to people that have been actively involved in creating child pornography.
Its a very, very fine line, and I recognise that. And I can certainly understand the hysteria behind it. It's almost valid.

However, I'm sure almost all the people reading these boards have things on their hard-drives or burned to DVD or hidden under their beds that they'd be ashamed to have come into the light of day. I know I do, though it's not of a harmful nature.

My point is that, while I can see where the original poster is coming from, and I agree entirely with the people posting after that said "report this individual, with evidence if necessary," and I also agree with the people that said that this particular person was just a troll trying to instigate argument.. I don't believe that all pedophiles should be locked away. Some of them may just be confused or introverted people, struggling with the perversion that they are born with. YES. People are BORN with perversions, preferences and kinks, they don't CHOOSE them. If that's true of homosexuals, why should it be any less true for less acceptable sexual preferences? I think it's fairly widely accepted these days that sexual behaviour is NOT a conscious choice. Some of these people are not the predators portrayed in the media. Some of them are wrestling with the consciences daily, pulling themselves through life and ignoring their sickness, or trying to come to terms with and disempower it.

Pedorasts should, without a doubt, be locked away for as long as they legally can be. Pedophiles may be able to be helped. That is the most important distinction.

As for violence in computer games... well, if someone's going to act on what a computer game illustrates for them, they'll do exactly the same thing for what a film tells them. Or a book. Or a comic. Or a friend at a bar. These people are already out of touch with reality. It's not down to computer games, its down to their own personal grasp on reality.

People who prey on children deserve to die.

Slowly.

Painfully.

...I'll get the blowtorch...