Issue 14 Closed Beta starts today
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Posted on: 2009-02-13 20:46 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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MA will give us a chance to do something different with those maps.
Look out for my "find 37 glowies in the Eden Spire" mission. 
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Hey! I was going to put an "Escort the hostage out" mission in there!
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Pfft. That's what the Chantry's for! 
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I know the people in closed beta already know, but it's so frustrating* not knowing which maps are going to be included at launch
I'm hoping for the floating island map from the scirrocco arc or the clockwork king warehouse one from the synapse TF
*The above comment could be construde as an understatement!
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According to previously released information, ALL maps currently in the game will be available for the MA to use, totaling approx 1000 maps in all.
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Yup - that's what has been said before. However iirc there was also talk about some extras in MA needing unlocking (possibly be MA badges?) so I guess it's possible that all wil be available, but not everyone will have access to all from the very start.
AFAIK the MA unlockables haven't been mentioned in ages - so for all I know the idea didn't make it to beta. If it did I hope they've done it sensibly - it'd be stupuid if very little is available without unlocking it, or if unlocking was linked to things like number of arcs published or ratings received.
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MA will give us a chance to do something different with those maps.
Look out for my "find 37 glowies in the Eden Spire" mission.
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Hey! I was going to put an "Escort the hostage out" mission in there!
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Does team fly work on hostages? Could MA really find a use for this power now that it's not needed for PA dropping?
Next MA will find a mission making whirlwind seem useful.
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I don't think it was outdoor maps which won't be in at launch, I think the comment was about outdoor missions. I.e. talk to, patrols and outdoor ambushes which take place in the shared game world.
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I don't think it was outdoor maps which won't be in at launch, I think the comment was about outdoor missions. I.e. talk to, patrols and outdoor ambushes which take place in the shared game world.
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That's as I recall as well - can't remember them saying that they wanted to get them (hunts and zone missions) into MA either. I don't think hunts fit the MA missions as VR entertainment route that MA seems to be going down.
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I know the people in closed beta already know, but it's so frustrating* not knowing which maps are going to be included at launch
I'm hoping for the floating island map from the scirrocco arc or the clockwork king warehouse one from the synapse TF
*The above comment could be construde as an understatement!
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According to previously released information, ALL maps currently in the game will be available for the MA to use, totaling approx 1000 maps in all.
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Yup - that's what has been said before. However iirc there was also talk about some extras in MA needing unlocking (possibly be MA badges?) so I guess it's possible that all wil be available, but not everyone will have access to all from the very start.
AFAIK the MA unlockables haven't been mentioned in ages - so for all I know the idea didn't make it to beta.
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Well it doesn't seem to make much sense. I mean.. do you lock the map until the PLAYERS have the specific badge, or the creator of the mission has the specific badge (or both)? While I'm a big fan of unlockable stuff and a bit of exclusivity, in this particular case it seems a bit of a crappy idea.
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I think it was things like the signature characters that would be unlockable - like you get a certain amount of ratings, and you unlock Statesman, for example.
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I meant a super hero affectionado.
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Who make up a relatively small proportion of the playerbase.
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Of this superhero game???? okaaay....
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Of this superhero-themed MMORPG, yes.
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That's a point for the CO thread but they seem to be listening and improving. You can get an awful lot done during a beta. As just one example CoH was classless when it went into beta.
[/ QUOTE ] CoH was in pretty bad shape at beta, launch, and a few issues from then on. The thing is, when CO comes out, it will have to compete with what CoH is today, not what it was back then. The same problem that WAR faced when trying pull people from WoW, really.
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Wonder if the famed Cathedral Of Pain will be available?
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Well it doesn't seem to make much sense. I mean.. do you lock the map until the PLAYERS have the specific badge, or the creator of the mission has the specific badge (or both)? While I'm a big fan of unlockable stuff and a bit of exclusivity, in this particular case it seems a bit of a crappy idea.
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My feeling that having stuff unlockable was to avoid spoilers. i.e. a new player with a level 5 character wouldn't be able to use nemesis units in thier missions, so as not to spoil meeting them for the first time in game.
Likewise, the Eden Spire map might only be available after you have done the trial, to avoid spoilers.
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My feeling that having stuff unlockable was to avoid spoilers. i.e. a new player with a level 5 character wouldn't be able to use nemesis units in thier missions, so as not to spoil meeting them for the first time in game.
Likewise, the Eden Spire map might only be available after you have done the trial, to avoid spoilers.
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To everyone saying we EU players never get into Close Beta...
Nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh!
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To everyone saying we EU players never get into Close Beta...
Nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh!
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lol! *get's the eggs to fry on their red faces*
Fried egg anyone?
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But...but...if we're getting a closed beta over here, how will we fuel our persecution complexes? 
I am sure someone will manage to sway that over into a DOOM(tm) post
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To everyone saying we EU players never get into Close Beta...
Nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh!
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Is it just me, or did anyone else hear Prof. Farnsworth's voice for GR's "Great news, everyone..." 
Is it time for the dance of joy yet?
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I am sure someone will manage to sway that over into a DOOM(tm) post
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"OMG, I can't believe that NCSoft are trying to turn us into their QA department and fob half-made content upon us in order for us to fix it for them."
Something like that?
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I am sure someone will manage to sway that over into a DOOM(tm) post
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"OMG, I can't believe that NCSoft are trying to turn us into their QA department and fob half-made content upon us in order for us to fix it for them."
Something like that?
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More likely:
"OMG! I can't believe NCSoft are taking away our test server just so some dimwits can play with i14!! What a joke! How am I meant to test my builds now huh? 
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But of course, I don't feel that way in the slightest. I wanna play with i14!
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To everyone saying we EU players never get into Close Beta...
Nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh!
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Is it just me, or did anyone else hear Prof. Farnsworth's voice for GR's "Great news, everyone..."
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nope. not just you. I half expected it to continue
"I've just received word that you are never ever going to be able to beta test anything ever again because hte test server has been destroyed by Fry".
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I am sure someone will manage to sway that over into a DOOM(tm) post
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"OMG, I can't believe that NCSoft are trying to turn us into their QA department and fob half-made content upon us in order for us to fix it for them."
Something like that?
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More likely:
"OMG! I can't believe NCSoft are taking away our test server just so some dimwits can play with i14!! What a joke! How am I meant to test my builds now huh? "
But of course, I don't feel that way in the slightest. I wanna play with i14!
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You just want to get your hands on the MA before most of the EU don't you?
That's not saying that I don't of course.
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You just want to get your hands on the MA before most of the EU don't you?
That's not saying that I don't of course.
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Well DUH!
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Is it just me, or did anyone else hear Prof. Farnsworth's voice for GR's "Great news, everyone..."
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Wuuuuuhh ?
*doze's off again*
I think what we should all do now is take a note of whose attitudes/posting styles change the most during these next few days.
I wanna bust some bugs in test 
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Not allowing us to do IOMs would be a pain, but only a minor one, to me, because there are even fewer maps for them than there are for IIMs. I'm still working on what I want to achieve from my arcs, so I'm not sure how restricting that would be to me.
Having said that, though, I believe FFM is correct in most respects, except I'm sure that the word "virtually" was included before "all maps"... there's some wriggle room for the devs.
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