Multi - Builds


AstroBear

 

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Does this mean that in my second build I can put all of my travel powers, thus freeing slots in my main build. I could also put in the medicine pool in my second build - is that correct ?


@Boy Wonder

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You could, if you have some strange desire to only use travel powers to run between trainers. I'd suggest reading the patch notes.

You can switch at the trainer, and no more than once every 15 minutes.


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I'm actually completely dissapointed with the "multi-build" idea. It'd be worthwhile if you could change primary and secondary powersets, but as you can't it's an over-hyped pointless addition to me, my build is great, I don't need to change it.


 

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It would be quite stupid and OP if you could change powersets. Similarly, if the system could be used to stick all your unwanted powers in a second build, and swap them out to do missions, as Boy_Wonder wants, it would also entirely OP.

This system has been asked for to help promote PvP practically since PvP came out. And now we have it, all we get is people moaning about it not making them into uber-gods. Sheesh.


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I'm actually completely dissapointed with the "multi-build" idea. It'd be worthwhile if you could change primary and secondary powersets, but as you can't it's an over-hyped pointless addition to me, my build is great, I don't need to change it.

[/ QUOTE ]Perhaps, but there are plenty of players who would very much enjoy the option to have a second build for PvP or perhaps, in the case of a fire/kin for example, a farming setup and a team setup.

Changing your entire AT wouldn't make much sense to me. Can you imagine someone called "Pyro gal" suddenly swapping to an ice blaster set because she got tired of burning things? Or a robotics mastermind suddenly giving up her robots in favour of summoning the undead and using occult magic?

Could also be darned useful for swapping to a different type of travel power. Flight, for example, might be preferable against some opponents than Super Speed or Super Jump. Create seperate builds which use the one and switch depending on what's required.

More options are never a bad thing


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It would be quite stupid and OP if you could change powersets. Similarly, if the system could be used to stick all your unwanted powers in a second build, and swap them out to do missions, as Boy_Wonder wants, it would also entirely OP.

This system has been asked for to help promote PvP practically since PvP came out. And now we have it, all we get is people moaning about it not making them into uber-gods. Sheesh.

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Did I ask to be an "uber-god" no, in fact I didn't. The reason I would have liked to change my Primary and Secondary is so that powers/abilities that a character may have which at the present they can only roleplay could be backed by other powersets. But then, almost all of the posts I see from you seem to be aimed at "putting down" or "proving wrong" another member so I won't take it personally, I'm sure trolling is a huge part of your day so I'll let you have your fun. EIther way, this new "issue" seems a bit crappy to me, sorry if that offends all of you "if it's in CoX it must be the greatest thing ever!!!" fanatics, but that's how I feel. Also, if you can only change once every 15 minutes, where's the overpowering? You still only have 1 Primary or Secondary depending on which build you are on, so I guess that part of your post was a little stupid eh? I wasn't asking to have more than one Primary in teh same build, just different ones in different builds...tool.


 

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How did you come to the conclusion that having more than one build would allow you to swop powersets?
To a limited extent you will be able to in that you can have different pool and epic powers sets on the two builds.


 

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Surely if you want to play with different powersets, then you'd just roll an alt? Why would you introduce a system to do the same thing with the same character when you can just create a new one?

I'll probably use the multi-build option for my Kheldians and my Arachnos Troops, but probably not for much else. It's a "nice to have", rather than a "ZOMG fantastic brilliant cool etc." thing.

I'd imagine that PvP'ers will get more use out of it (assuming there are any left after these changes - I never thought I'd say this, but you folks have my sympathy.)

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How did you come to the conclusion that having more than one build would allow you to swop powersets?
To a limited extent you will be able to in that you can have different pool and epic powers sets on the two builds.

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Never played Guildwars? In guildwars you can change builds or if you like you have "multi-builds" and effectively change every singel power your character has in thousands of different combinations as long as you are not in a mission. So really, not quite as ridiculous as you seem to all think....


 

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I would find this addition very useful for the two characters I use most frequently, particually for my WS.


 

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How did you come to the conclusion that having more than one build would allow you to swop powersets?
To a limited extent you will be able to in that you can have different pool and epic powers sets on the two builds.

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Never played Guildwars? In guildwars you can change builds or if you like you have "multi-builds" and effectively change every singel power your character has in thousands of different combinations as long as you are not in a mission. So really, not quite as ridiculous as you seem to all think....

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Noticed that your not playing guild wars here? in fact it is an utterly differnt game that has nothing in common mechanics wise?


 

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With this people don't have to mess up a perfectly good RP build for a decent PvE or PvP build, nor mess up a perfectly good PvP or PvE for the other.

Create a 2nd build on test to be somewhere sure you can afford it. In PVE your fine with SOs.
Shame this came in with powers being changed on people anyway.


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How did you come to the conclusion that having more than one build would allow you to swop powersets?
To a limited extent you will be able to in that you can have different pool and epic powers sets on the two builds.

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Never played Guildwars? In guildwars you can change builds or if you like you have "multi-builds" and effectively change every singel power your character has in thousands of different combinations as long as you are not in a mission. So really, not quite as ridiculous as you seem to all think....

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Noticed that your not playing guild wars here? in fact it is an utterly differnt game that has nothing in common mechanics wise?

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Noticed that not once did I refer to the mechanics of the game nor request that they be changed? All I said was that the multi-build feature would have been netter if you could've specced your new build to use different Primary and Secondary powersets. I never said anything about AT changes, wanting more than one Primary at once or anything else for that matter. I just said I was dissapointed with how the multi-build is beinf implemented. Tragically though this forum/community is geared up to try and crush any form of opinion that doesn't fit in with the majority. Sorry, i don't conform because you try and "prove me wrong" or "make me appear stupid". I voiced an opinion, deal with it.


 

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Tragically though this forum/community is geared up to try and crush any form of opinion that doesn't fit in with the majority. Sorry, i don't conform because you try and "prove me wrong" or "make me appear stupid". I voiced an opinion, deal with it.

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Wow. That's a bit harsh. Have you ever thought of trying to have a civilized discussion where you disagree with people but can accept the fact that there are differences of opinion without lambasting an entire group of people?

As I said earlier, if you want to try different powersets, then you can roll an alt? I don't (personally) see the need to allow you to do that on the same character. It would be great from a personal storyline point of view or roleplaying (if you're into that sort of thing), but if it's just to change the game mechanics, then an alt is an easier option.

Can you tell me for what reasons you'd like this in game, with multiple powersets on the same character? Please.


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Slight "left at the lights" here but please could someone explain how enhancements will work for 2nd builds - Will we have to buy a whole load of other enhancments from scratch (assuming the build is different enough to need different enhancments)?


 

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Slight "left at the lights" here but please could someone explain how enhancements will work for 2nd builds - Will we have to buy a whole load of other enhancments from scratch (assuming the build is different enough to need different enhancments)?

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Yes. The second build will need its own enhancements, I'm afraid.


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Slight "left at the lights" here but please could someone explain how enhancements will work for 2nd builds - Will we have to buy a whole load of other enhancments from scratch (assuming the build is different enough to need different enhancments)?

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Yes. The second build will need its own enhancements, I'm afraid.

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Bummer


 

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Tragically though this forum/community is geared up to try and crush any form of opinion that doesn't fit in with the majority. Sorry, i don't conform because you try and "prove me wrong" or "make me appear stupid". I voiced an opinion, deal with it.

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Yup, everyone else thinks your idea wasn't a good one because we're all flawed.

After all, what other reason could there possibly be.


 

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Tragically though this forum/community is geared up to try and crush any form of opinion that doesn't fit in with the majority. Sorry, i don't conform because you try and "prove me wrong" or "make me appear stupid". I voiced an opinion, deal with it.

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Yup, everyone else thinks your idea wasn't a good one because we're all flawed.

After all, what other reason could there possibly be.

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There you go again, being all succinct compared to my wordiness...

Whoops, I'm showing signs of community-ness again. Better stop that, after all, if we agree with each other, then that automatically invalidates our opinions.


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if we agree with each other, then that automatically invalidates our opinions.

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Agreed.


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Personally I'm looking forward to the multi build if only because I can have my "adventuring" build with top notch (not necessarily purple) IOs and my Ouroborus Build with lower powered IOs and SOs so I dont lose as much enhancing when I get scaled too low


 

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I’m looking forward to Multi-Builds because on some of my toons I want to be able to have a build for teaming (and task forces) and a build for solo play


Tidgy

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There's loads of different uses for this.

You could have one build with priority on offence, and another with defences prioritised, then choose depending on the team make-up.

You could have one regular build, and another geared for a specific TF/SF or enemy group (e.g. one that sacrifices some damage resists, to increase resistance against end drain).

You could have a PvP and a PvE build.

SOA and Khelds get obvious benefits.

You could have a team focussed and a solo focused build.

You could have a level 50 build and an exemp-friendly build.

If you really wanted, you could have a comedy build where you pick all the 'duff' powers and random power pools just for the hell of it. That could represent your toon's alter ego?


 

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If you really wanted, you could have a comedy build where you pick all the 'duff' powers and random power pools just for the hell of it. That could represent your toon's alter ego?

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No, those will be the current builds I'll be maintaining - I'll play against type and go for a decent build with the secondary.