I've not read any more info about merits since the original announcement was made and nothing was mentioned about the cool down period.
Can i have a link if i've missed something?
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TOYS PRAM OUT!!!!
How about waiting for details on what's on offer for the merit system as a whole, and whether there's already any hero/villain allowances built into it, before you decide it's unfair? (Sorry, should have said "UNFAIR")
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Wasnt it said that story arcs release merits now too? There you go its all even now, villains have non stop arcs. Heroes have non stop radios 
Edit: Im certain i read that on the US post by a dev, if no1 can confirm this also i guess i might have to go searching for the quote 
Something along the lines of expanding the flashback system and improving the end of story arcs rewards.
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I've not read any more info about merits since the original announcement was made and nothing was mentioned about the cool down period.
Can i have a link if i've missed something?
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AFAIK no new news at all. That's clearly no reason not to make angry posts on the subject, though. 
Edit: Actually, it's sweet that there's someone that thinks blue side having TF delights like Positron and the Shards outings count as a "HUGE advantage" for them. Hell, set off on the Shard TFs and that's more than 24 hours gone in itself...
It's true, but since you also get merits for doing story arcs and flashbacks, it don't make much difference.
Besides, you could do all the villain SFs in the same time as it takes to do one positron TF.
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Will be interesting to see the cost of each enhancement though. Theres the obvious +recovery/+regen/+recharge sets which they'll put at a high cost but how would they do pricing on the rare but less popular ones?
Ones like pace of the turtle which are classed as rare but sells for next to nothing. Will they keep the merit cost of this low to reflect on the pricing or categorise (totally wrong spelling but hey its friday) them depending on rarity? Speculation of course.
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Equally speculative, but they might even try to make it dynamic; the fewer recipes of a particular type there are in the AH system (possibly looking at recent history too), the higher the price in merits.
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I've not read any more info about merits since the original announcement was made and nothing was mentioned about the cool down period.
Can i have a link if i've missed something?
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AFAIK no new news at all. That's clearly no reason not to make angry posts on the subject, though.
Edit: Actually, it's sweet that there's someone that thinks blue side having TF delights like Positron and the Shards outings count as a "HUGE advantage" for them. Hell, set off on the Shard TFs and that's more than 24 hours gone in itself...
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My post wasn't angry, was a simple question.
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TOYS PRAM OUT!!!!
How about waiting for details on what's on offer for the merit system as a whole, and whether there's already any hero/villain allowances built into it, before you decide it's unfair? (Sorry, should have said "UNFAIR")
(Yup, it's Friday evening!)
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What was this though?
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I've not read any more info about merits since the original announcement was made and nothing was mentioned about the cool down period.
Can i have a link if i've missed something?
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AFAIK no new news at all. That's clearly no reason not to make angry posts on the subject, though.
Edit: Actually, it's sweet that there's someone that thinks blue side having TF delights like Positron and the Shards outings count as a "HUGE advantage" for them. Hell, set off on the Shard TFs and that's more than 24 hours gone in itself...
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My post wasn't angry, was a simple question.
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Apologies if there was any misunderstanding - the entire "edit" part of my post was referring to the OP, a guy very unhappy about the [imagined] injustices of the merit system and how it favoured heroes.
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TOYS PRAM OUT!!!!
How about waiting for details on what's on offer for the merit system as a whole, and whether there's already any hero/villain allowances built into it, before you decide it's unfair? (Sorry, should have said "UNFAIR")
(Yup, it's Friday evening!)
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What was this though?
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Again, a response to the thread's OP.
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I've not read any more info about merits since the original announcement was made and nothing was mentioned about the cool down period.
Can i have a link if i've missed something?
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AFAIK no new news at all. That's clearly no reason not to make angry posts on the subject, though.
Edit: Actually, it's sweet that there's someone that thinks blue side having TF delights like Positron and the Shards outings count as a "HUGE advantage" for them. Hell, set off on the Shard TFs and that's more than 24 hours gone in itself...
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My post wasn't angry, was a simple question.
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TOYS PRAM OUT!!!!
How about waiting for details on what's on offer for the merit system as a whole, and whether there's already any hero/villain allowances built into it, before you decide it's unfair? (Sorry, should have said "UNFAIR")
(Yup, it's Friday evening!)
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What was this though?
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Nobody's saying that you made an angry post, the very first post was an angry post.
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Meh. Sorry. My bad. I blame the merits!
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Teh merits are UNFAIR!!!! 
Its the de caff coffee.
i just want to know if they are going to be retroactive for all of us with multiple 50s, some of them for a long time. Just got the 42 month veteran reward and enforcer is my first alt. I'd like to see him getting a shedload of merits when I log in
How many TFs do Villains have, and what would be the average time it'd take to complete all of them?
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Heroes get more TF's. But what you seem to be forgetting is that the majority of Hero TF's are immensely tedious and some unnecessarily lengthy. There's no way on earth that a team could do all the hero TF's in 24 hours, it's true, but a recipe-farming TF team is really limited to the shorter TF's - Moonfire, Hess, Croatoa, STF, Cimerora, and the LGTF. The big six and the SSTF's take too long to be worthwhile when simply recipe-scrounging.
Perhaps it would be mildly inconvenient for someone who spent 12 hours a day doing Strike Forces. But not gamebreaking. As I see it, Villains have access to at least 7 SF's (off the top of my head) - at two hours each (the average is probably higher than this) with half an hour to an hour per TF to find teams, organise, craft, and so forth, there's near to 20 hours of pure-SF content. So you can get your 4 hours of sleep, and start getting more recipes the next day. Perfect.
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How many TFs do Villains have, and what would be the average time it'd take to complete all of them?
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5 TFs, 3 Trials
All under 2 hours, easily (Trials = 29 mins personal record, TFs varying)
I'm not counting ITF/LGTF
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5 TFs, 3 Trials
All under 2 hours, easily (Trials = 29 mins personal record, TFs varying)
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so lets say that at 2 hours a TF, 1 hour a trial, not including breaks between...
That's a total of 13 hours.
Over half a day.
if you get home from school/work at 4, and play cox non stop until 12 midnight, that's 8 hours.
This system isn't unfair on villains, or heroes. if its unfair to anyone, its to the casual gamer who doesn't spend 24 hours a day grinding for something meant as a perk for doing something we'd been doing anyway.
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5 TFs, 3 Trials
All under 2 hours, easily (Trials = 29 mins personal record, TFs varying)
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so lets say that at 2 hours a TF, 1 hour a trial, not including breaks between...
That's a total of 13 hours.
Over half a day.
if you get home from school/work at 4, and play cox non stop until 12 midnight, that's 8 hours.
This system isn't unfair on villains, or heroes. if its unfair to anyone, its to the casual gamer who doesn't spend 24 hours a day grinding for something meant as a perk for doing something we'd been doing anyway.
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Yeah, that's what I was wondering about - it seems like a 24 hour pause won't really make any difference to either side - both sides still have far more TFs than anyone should normally be able to complete in a playing session.
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This system isn't unfair on villains, or heroes. if its unfair to anyone, its to the casual gamer who doesn't spend 24 hours a day grinding for something meant as a perk for doing something we'd been doing anyway.
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I THINK that the merits rewarded via tfs/trials will be quite high for the time put into them, but for the casual gamer who doesnt have time for tfs, they can still get them via the story arc completion screen. Granted this will take longer than the tf route but they had to put some form of balance between the two right? No-one would do a tf for merits if a short story arc was a quicker method of doing it, this way more people are interested in doing tfs which can only be a good thing.
Also the very rare/powerfull recipes are a sort of endgame product to try and entice you to play your higher level toons more to get it. There is not one item ingame that is needed for a GOOD build.
If anything this system makes getting the harder recipes EASIER for the casual gamer.
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To make it even worse, all the merits have gone to the Americans.
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To make it even worse, all the merits have gone to the Americans.
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Was that the work of the jerk hackers?
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To make it even worse, all the merits have gone to the Americans.
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Was that the work of the jerk hackers?
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You mean Jerk Emmert? 
Oh, wait, he's a Canadian.
This guy is still here?
If you can only run the same TF or Trial ONCE every 24 hours and get merrits for it, its gonna be totally unfair and gamebreaking for villains.
Heroes got like 2 times the trials and taskforces villains get , so heroes will be in a HUGE advantage getting merrits.
Villains cooldown on tf and trials must be cut in half to 12 h to get merrits in order to balance things.