1st - Welcome back to CoV
2nd - no it is kinda annoying as its always been to get blinds lol I myself get bloody annoyed with it sometimes. Thats the way it is though as theres lots to do in game that requires not actively teaming like making IOs, swearing at the BM to give you what you want or just randomly ranting and creeping out your coalitions.... oh wait maybe that last bit is just me...
But yes blinds are annoying.
First off: Welcome back!
Now, this etiquette thing. I'm of the same thinking as you. Blinds = bad. Some people don't agree of course and some don't read your comments, be it ignorance, English not being their native tongue or something else.
Anyway, welcome back and I hope you enjoy all that Issue 12 has in store "soon" 
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im pritty much the same as everybody else so far dont like getting blind invites and normaly blindly refuse them unless they happen to be from an sg member than i will ask whats up first(perls of being an sg leader)
i have found the same as yourself tho sometimes a couple of people will blind invite a few times in the day sometimes in the same hour and on the odd times i can be bothered telling them no please dont do it again the normal reaction is why not or something along those lines as if your not suposed to refuse or dislike blind invites
however on a similar note along the same lines over the past couple of months ive noticed an increase in the amount of invits to join farm teams when im on monster(my lvl 50 villian) with a number of strange reactions when i say no from a simple why to being treated like im 2 and having them explane to me just how im going to make loads of inf and prestige and recipes and salvage,.. and so on
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It's not flippin' hard to type "Heya, wanna join my team?".
Blind invites are ru-u-ude.
I'd take it one step further...
I wouldn't even consider joining a PuG unless i'm told at least the level of foe we're fighting/what they're doing. Like to know what i'm getting myself into, never *that* desperate to team with random people
I use the Decline all invites in the options when I'm unavailable for teaming... What invites?
I then have the option to turn invites on when I get a suitable Tell request.
Hopefully the dev's will notice and add the additional option to only disable blind invite's.
(Thus still letting your fellow SG members, Server and Global friends still invite you to team.)
Edit: Oh and maybe an option to disable in game email also.
Nuff Said...
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My favourite is people invite me blindly, i kindly send a tell back to them saying to send a tell first and decline teh invite. then they send another... declined again with another tell explaining myself... and then the same again... its tiring sometimes 
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Thanks for your replies, mates! Obviously I'm not alone in this. So there is only one thing to do: Being a good example to newbies and hold up the shining beacon of politeness! ^_^
And just to say it again:
The CoX-community is one of the nicest there is! Its fun playing with you!
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I wouldn't even consider joining a PuG unless i'm told at least the level of foe we're fighting/what they're doing. Like to know what i'm getting myself into, never *that* desperate to team with random people
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But to carry on... Blind Invites sent to me are just blindly refused. If I get persistent invites, then /ignore **** occurs.
It takes 5 seconds to talk to another person... politeness always helps in trying to get people to join your team.
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Hmm, I was starting to think it was just me.
I'm fairly new to city of heroes, but I've played several other MMOG and although the community is (in general) much more welcoming than any other game I've played I've *never* had so many blind invites. Even in WoW, famous for it's [censored] collection you were almost certain to be contacted first. Blind invite spamming ususally got you labelled as a 12 year old and ignored.
I must agree I hate blind invites from ppl I don't know.
If I get a blind invite I normally just hit decline & forget about it but some ppl don't get the message. I remember trying to sort out my IO's in the AH once and in a ten minute period I had seven blind invites from the same person.
I hit decline every time after the 7th I was about to add to my ignore list when I got a /t saying 'Why haven't you joined my team yet?'
I replied 'not interested' & they sent another invite. I left the invite on screen till I was finished sorting my IO's. Since an unanswered invite block any new invites.
Once finished I sent a long /t regarding etiquette & polite ways of approaching player when making a team. I added them to ignore list without waiting for a reply. End of story 
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blinds are a personal preference imho. Depending on my mood, I do at times take em up (after checkin up search ofc). I also take the view that its an MMORPG. Emphasis on the MM bit - so I do like to randomly team up with peeps I have never met b4.
Some of the best PUgs I have had have started out as blinds. Having said that some of the most atrocious and rude teams have been PuGs too lol. Also, there are lots of new players, and always and opportunity to teach em established etiquette.
1 thing I have realised though - many people DO NOT read the manual abt the search tool. ie the colour codes, the different symbols etc. And its not a newbie thing either, once got a invite from a L42 whislt I was greyed out (ie already in a team). When I declined as said that I already on one, i got abuse hurled at me for saying "always LFT" on my serach comment whislt being on a team *sigh*
I then (very patiently) explained abt the colour coding, and the reply was - too complicated, stop puttin always LFT on search comment. At which point i /ignored
another counter point to blinds and pet peev -
(1) people who dont answer my tells when I am building a team
(2) when someone obviously looking to me for more xp with level diff eg L40s asking my L45 brute to join my team.
ok enough tangents - back to main topic!
Blinds are fine.
Is it quicker to click Yes/No than to press the backspace key, type Yes/No, then press enter? No - the blind invite is quicker and amounts to the same thing.
The best invite would be a 'Hey, do you want to join a team of X players fights level XX's?' Then following that with a blind yes/no invite. Good information followed by a yes/no button for speed.
Just because some players annoy you by asking you 50 times in 1 hour, doesn't automatically make the system they use rude. Its the people not remembering or being stupid that you have the problem with - not the system itself.
If they sent you 50 tells in 1 hour asking you if you wanted to join a team, would you come on here saying 'Are tells rude?'.
In short, blame the person directly, not the method - which is fine and is used well by most people.
@Sweet Chilli
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Blinds are fine.
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I disagree. Blind invites are just a way for a person to tell me they cant be polite even by the slightest.
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Is it quicker to click Yes/No than to press the backspace key, type Yes/No, then press enter? No - the blind invite is quicker and amounts to the same thing.
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And exactly how many seconds of your life do you waste if you first reply "Yes" and then get the invite and click "Yes". Maybe 10? 15? The speed part of this is a bit irrelevant tbh, because no one in this game will lose anything if you join the team 10 or 15 seconds later. Also, I dont actually think it does amount for the same thing. Polite way of asking me to join a team always beats a blind invite.
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Just because some players annoy you by asking you 50 times in 1 hour, doesn't automatically make the system they use rude. Its the people not remembering or being stupid that you have the problem with - not the system itself.
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True, but it still doesn't make it polite to send a blind.
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In short, blame the person directly, not the method - which is fine and is used well by most people.
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Well, as I've already said a few times.. The method isn't fine. If you dont have a few spare seconds to ask me if I want to join the team or not before the invite I wont join.
Oh yeah, and something which is also annoying is "Hi wanna join team" and invite at the same time/before I've replied yes or no. I also hate people who just ask "hi can I join team plz"... If you cant be bothered to tell me your lvl/AT I wont be bothered to invite you.
Heh. Maybe I am a bit demanding of the community but this is just me and I actually do tell my lvl/AT when asking to join a team and send a tell before I invite...
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When I first started, I found blinds rude. These days it depends on what mood Im in or what level Im at. One of my biggest motivators for getting my toons to the late 20s is that by then most team leaders dont blind and at least have some concept of what a team can handle in terms of difficulty. How many times have I accepted a blind only to find myself on a naff level 10 team with the difficulty at Invincible because its uber XP? Too many, and when you like to play support ATs like me, knowing what youre facing is a major factor. If Im below level 20 though, blinds are inevitable.
That said, sometimes I like to say yes. Teams can be amazing sometimes and there are times when I say yes because I fancy the challenge of the unknown.
Still, if you do get blinded and accept, I recommend checking out the mission description and difficulty level in the Mission window (need to be in the same zone though). That way, even if they havent told you what youre facing, you can get some idea and if it looks dumb, quit.
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I am happy to accept Blind invites although I do check the level of the inviter before accepting. As far as invites go I always ask before inviting because I know that although it doesnt bother me a lot of people dont like it Each to their own!
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For me it depends on what toon I'm on, what im up to at the time, and whether I can be bothered. Blind invites on my lvl 50s are instantly ignored, as are almost all tells. No I dont want to farm. No I dont want to plvl you, and no I dont want to fill.
On my other toons, it all depends, If I am randomly soloing/pottering about, then I might accept a blind invite, but will usually check out the toons lvl first. If people send an invite and then a tell, they will usually get no reply. If someone sends a tell with no info ie "Want team?" then they will usually get no reply, or will be reffered to one of my friends for suitable abusing.
Politeness goes a long way. Taking those few extra seconds to type "Hey there! Want to join a lvl x team?" will get you a good response. Courtesy costs nothing but a bit of time and effort. The rewards however, are much greater.
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Blinds are fine.
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I disagree. Blind invites are just a way for a person to tell me they cant be polite even by the slightest.
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Is it quicker to click Yes/No than to press the backspace key, type Yes/No, then press enter? No - the blind invite is quicker and amounts to the same thing.
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And exactly how many seconds of your life do you waste if you first reply "Yes" and then get the invite and click "Yes". Maybe 10? 15? The speed part of this is a bit irrelevant tbh, because no one in this game will lose anything if you join the team 10 or 15 seconds later. Also, I dont actually think it does amount for the same thing. Polite way of asking me to join a team always beats a blind invite.
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Just because some players annoy you by asking you 50 times in 1 hour, doesn't automatically make the system they use rude. Its the people not remembering or being stupid that you have the problem with - not the system itself.
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True, but it still doesn't make it polite to send a blind.
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In short, blame the person directly, not the method - which is fine and is used well by most people.
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Well, as I've already said a few times.. The method isn't fine. If you dont have a few spare seconds to ask me if I want to join the team or not before the invite I wont join.
Oh yeah, and something which is also annoying is "Hi wanna join team" and invite at the same time/before I've replied yes or no. I also hate people who just ask "hi can I join team plz"... If you cant be bothered to tell me your lvl/AT I wont be bothered to invite you.
Heh. Maybe I am a bit demanding of the community but this is just me and I actually do tell my lvl/AT when asking to join a team and send a tell before I invite...
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Nah - you are completely wrong. A blind invite is exactly the same as asking, do you wish to join, Yes/No. Except its a built in way of asking. Its a question. Same as a tell. Just there is a built in way of asking for speed and convienence. Your seconds might not mean much but some peoples do. Plus, its the added Gyp of actually having to type a polite (usually) response. I'd much rather click a button.
If you really don't want any blinds then you can always put yourself in the mode where people cannot invite you.
Blind invites = OK
Going into a mish first = OK (seems to be a trend to hang around the doors for no good reason these days.
Starting a mish before everyone gets in there = OK
Insps in PvP = OK
Droning in PvP = OK
Mob TP in PvP = OK
If someone can actually tell me exactly how or why a blind invite is rude then I'll happily change my opinion. And the answer 'because it just is' will not be accepted.
@Sweet Chilli
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A blind invite is exactly the same as asking, do you wish to join, Yes/No.
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It is the same, but in a rude way. If I go to a cafe I can tell the waitress "One coffee please" or just "Coffee". I will get the coffee either way, but it's never bad to be polite. Which do you think gives a better impression of me to the waitress? Politeness always goes a long way, if you're in a such a hurry that 10 seconds for typing a polite message is too much for you dont expect me to join your team :/
Sending a blind amounts to same thing as "want team?" which I also think is annoying. Just that a blind invite is 1 more step down from that... If you cant be bothered to tell me anything about the team I cant be bothered to join.
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Yes blind invites are impolite. I personally think it worse when someone sends a tell but doesn't wait for your reply before inviting.
I always tend to set my Looking For Group status when I'm after a team and if a blind invites sent, I accept after checking their level (as long as they aren't hidden).I see the LFG as an opening for all forms of invite but it's always more pleasant if someone asks and you can pick up a lot on a persons character by it I think.
If I haven't set my status then I just refuse blinds, but if someone sends a tell I am sometimes persuaded to change my mind. I'm sure sending tells gets a better result for accepts than blinds, but it's not easy to educate people. I always read search comments and send tells. Some people can't be bothered or can't read. Maybe they don't know what a blind invite actually is.
But your certainly not weird, there's nothing weird in wanting people to be polite.
I find blind invites highly annoying as well even when it comes from someone whom i know.
But what i find the most annoying is tells like "hi m8 can i join u on ur team plz"
First off. Take the few seconds it takes type "hi mATE can i join YOu on YOur team plEASE" its not that hard!!.
Second off. the please in the end makes it sound like begging in my ears and is something i find just as annoying as people begging for cash.
Third off. I know not everyone is every good at English (I know I'm one of them!!) But at lest try to be polite and do your best when typing, It gos ALONG way in my eyes.
I rather join and help an low lvl or have an low lvl join me, IF the person asks politely BEFORE HAND.
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Blind invites = OK
Going into a mish first = OK (seems to be a trend to hang around the doors for no good reason these days.
Starting a mish before everyone gets in there = OK
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And on this I disagree.
When I'm on a team, then I'm looking for Teamplay and the social experience.
In my experience blind inviters won't talk to you all mission, as they haven't before they invited you. They just look for someone to grind XP with, because they can't master the mission alone.
Blind inviters won't talk, speak about tactics, or listen for that matter. Most just rush off into the mission, ignoring you or asking you why it takes so long. They won't wait for you to set up your bots or anything. Someone who doesn't even take the time to ask "Hey, wanna join?" will probably not be the most social of companions either.
And I do not think that a blind invite is equal to asking but faster. It's a spam-window. It's as if you're activating a programmed feature. Click button -> Get team!
I'm not a feature! I not only think this is rude, but I feel offended by those spammy, annoying, unpersonal windows!
The problem is not the feature itself. I blame the user for not thinking about that this maybe being considered rude or annoying. And what bothers me the most is having to explain myself!
So you don't understand me? So you feel I'm over-reacting? I'm being irrational?
Yeah, that's what emotions are about.
You (blind inviters) can see that there is an overwhelming amount of people who consider unpersonal invites rude. I don't care if you understand why. Please respect it and don't do it! Ask first! It doesn't take long and it's a nice social experience!
Thanks!
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Going into a mish first = OK (seems to be a trend to hang around the doors for no good reason these days.
Starting a mish before everyone gets in there = OK
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Unless it's a race, or the person has only just been invited or zones away, I think its very rude to start a mish without the whole team there. Fair enough if you dont want to wait for the MM to summon ect, but if you are on a team, and then go tearing off without parts of it, what concept of team do you have? The player might have a slow load, still be getting there, and you've gone off, meaning that they lose out. Just plain selfish and unjustified on a normal team.
Wait inside the mish by all means unless you are an sk, in which case it messes up the spawn lvls.
People who have so little time for others, should just solo and leave those who actually want to be part of a team, and play as a team, enjoy our teaming experience, and not get into a mish to find your nearly finished and that we just lost our mish bonus becuase you couldnt wait.
No wonder I so rarely use PuGs any more.
Hi there!
I have been a villains since day one, but I was on hiatus for over 1 1/2 years. I was delighted to see that my toons are still here and I picked up where I left. Great game, great new content!
Today I was in an interesting situation.
In the past it was considered rude to invite someone to a team without even contacting that person beforehands. Some people (myself included) even have a "No blind invites" text set up in the team-search.
Today I have been blindly invited by a certain player three times over the course of the day. On the third time I wrote him back and complained about this behaviour.
He wouldn't understand why it bothered me. He said the team-invite-window IS a form of personal contact and I said its impolite spam. We parted with him saying to me "How weird..."
So, question:
Am I really weird? Did the etiquette change while I was gone? Are blind invites okay and should I just be happy that someone I haven't even talked with wants to team up with me?
On the other hand, it's good to be back. As I said: Great game and mostly great players!