24th July 2006 - Hami Raid
Reading back through all the posts, I notice Double's not leading the blasters this time. If there's still no-one leading them, I'll do it - was teamed with Double in the two successful raids I've been in, so I know how to stand around and look important
I'll hopefully be on the raid with Crimson Cannon, but i think everyone should read this:
clicky
its a U.S forums thread about some differences the stateside players have noticed in Hami since I7 came online.
Cobaltix writes:
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Items that were noted to be different :
-Aggro Team (Tankers and Illusionists) had a much harder time holding Aggro on Hamidon and the Mitos. We went through two full wipes before getting more back-up and making a successful third attempt.
-Hamidon is now able to attack even while held. The aggro team was taking damage from Hami until it was defeated.
-Enhancement Drops are not working as before. Many people reported not receiving a Hamidon Enhancement from Sunday night's raid. Last night, an informal poll over Broadcast regarding SO Enhancement drops yielded a lack of SO drops from Mitos. Salvage was still received.
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It all sounds quite nasty
CuppaJo says its being looked at, but the leaders of this raid may want to consider what effect this stuff will have on our strategies...
Union 50s:
Crimson Cannon: NRG/NRG/Force
Tara Thorn: Archery/NRG/Elec
Damatria: BS/SD/Body
Defend the Earth from Aliens in my MA Arc: ID:57186
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I'll hopefully be on the raid with Crimson Cannon, but i think everyone should read this:
clicky
its a U.S forums thread about some differences the stateside players have noticed in Hami since I7 came online.
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This can mean a lot of trouble...
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Here are the changes that I believe I have seen personally, or have seen multiple independant reports on.
1) Mito's/Hamdion appear to have the AV AI buff. Namely, aggro has been changed to ignore threat levels. PA's now no longer serve as magnets for aggro, and rely on better placement to distract mitos. Mito's also appear to be even more determined to wipe out people on their To Do list.
2) PA's no longer move when out of control range. Dropping PA's isn't an exact science. I've accidently put PA's on south rock or on pillars near the crater edge while hovering over hami and trying to drop straight down. That wasn't too bad because PA's would move to be underneath so you could get the control you needed that way. PA's now stand where they land.
3) Mito (possibly hamidon) Aggro range appears to have been increased. We saw an increased number of people being dropped much farther from the jello than they used to. Took a lot of suddenly dropped people by surprise.
4) Hamidon now fires his attack while held. AFAIK, there aren't any visual cues for Hami being held. Mito's won't spawn while held. It does not appear that Hami's mez protection has been increased. (I think Guardian was the first server to confirm this)
5) DE Monsters recieved the AV/GM buff. Like it or not, due to griefers and inconveniently located spawns, everyone has to fight a DE monster during a raid at some point. That's why I'm including it in this list since the monsters are forever going to be a small part of the raid experience.
It has also been reported that electrolyte mito's have had the magnitude of their hold increased to levels beyond scrapper/tank mez protection, but I haven't seen multiple independant confirmations yet, so let me include
6?) Electrolyte Mito Hold magnitude has been increased. On Pinnacle's 3 hour raid, I know a dispersion bubble was kept on the aggro team but I was an hour late and don't know why. This one may be confirmed soon.
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The blue mitos are deffinately more dangerous now, previously I was able to taunt several to keep them off my heal team without any danger, now just one (possibly two) is able to break unyielding. I don't know if the MAG was increased, or if the duration was increased allowing for more holds to stack, but twice on Saturday while taunting a blue was able to hold me. We solved the problem with a Kin spamming ID on me and a FF dispersion bubble on the heal team.
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/sign im up for this, i have a couple of heroes you can choose from, lvl 50 stone tank, lvl 50 mind/empath controller, lvl 38 earth/rad controller, lvl 45 spines regen scrapper.
From updated release notes:
Powers - Critters
AVs/Heroes, Giant Monsters and Hamidon Mitos now ignore threat level damage multipliers for different Archetypes. They are still affected by Taunt as before.
The Hamidon has been increased in difficulty. It is now capable of using one of its attack powers even when Held, Slept, or Stunned.
Hrm I knew some AV changes would sneak in to him. Makes the PA bombing a little more of a pain..
But as soon as our kin/rad cell is in position they aren't needed and the group is surrounded by green pretty much immediately anyway.
Has anyone considered just going for it as soon as they get in position? If he spawns more Mitos, the healing blanket seems enough to keep everyone safe anyway. We could run in with holders/blasters/healers (maybe range enhanced team teleporters?) and go straight for him, ignoring the mito spawn (assuming it doesn't tails-up the server).
Also does the mito spawn cycle 'top up' the numbers of mitos or does it fully spawn a whole new batch (so could end up with triple mito count)?
Is the only way to know if he's held for 2mins now based on controllers seeing containment damage then?
Shrug.
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Has anyone considered just going for it as soon as they get in position? If he spawns more Mitos, the healing blanket seems enough to keep everyone safe anyway. We could run in with holders/blasters/healers (maybe range enhanced team teleporters?) and go straight for him, ignoring the mito spawn (assuming it doesn't tails-up the server).
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I was considering it, however not only is damage the issue, but lag/crash might be possible as well. Afaik he got 3 mitospawns, and at each spawn he spawns a mito for each player in the blob. So say we got 100 people attacking the nucleus, that would mean that after 3 spawns you get the lag AND damage from 300 + original 32 = 332 mitos. Now the kin/rad cell MIGHT be enough to hold that (which i kinda doubt...) but I'm pretty sure it will ensue into a server crash. Hell last time we spawned mitos when we were with 60-70 ppl the server crashed.
"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"
Total Cat @Stagefright
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"The Hamidon has been increased in difficulty. It is now capable of using one of its attack powers even when Held, Slept, or Stunned."
Updated for 14th June.
@Double
Double Flame 50 fire/devices
Double Shade 50 tri-form warshade
Double Light 50 dwarf-human peacebringer
Double Control 50 earth/rad
Id like to sign up for this raid missed so many in the passed.
Mr Invincible currently lv 42 stone/stone tank but should be in lv range with no poblem by time of the raid.
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From updated release notes:
Powers - Critters
AVs/Heroes, Giant Monsters and Hamidon Mitos now ignore threat level damage multipliers for different Archetypes. They are still affected by Taunt as before.
The Hamidon has been increased in difficulty. It is now capable of using one of its attack powers even when Held, Slept, or Stunned.
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translation : whoops we screwed it up again, quick shove it in release note and we can say WAI
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From updated release notes:
Powers - Critters
AVs/Heroes, Giant Monsters and Hamidon Mitos now ignore threat level damage multipliers for different Archetypes. They are still affected by Taunt as before.
The Hamidon has been increased in difficulty. It is now capable of using one of its attack powers even when Held, Slept, or Stunned.
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translation : whoops we screwed it up again, quick shove it in release note and we can say WAI
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Uh, if you guys succeed, I'll personally send a card, even if you don't, I'll send flowers for trying
I should be able to get Flitz up to 45 by the 24th but not sure how much use a MA/SR scrapper will be against the giant jello.
UNION @Flitz 50, Lead Hose 50, Red Rag 50
DEFIANT Rose Bloodthorn 34
VIGILANCE Captain Caledonia 20 - Yeah, I made toons on the French server coz we only had 4 back then (might have to transfer/recreate them on one of the US servers)
..and many more!
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I should be able to get Flitz up to 45 by the 24th but not sure how much use a MA/SR scrapper will be against the giant jello.
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A lot, someone needs to damage him to make him fall
The 24th? That's a Monday, right? If so, I'll sign up with Shadow's Grace, my 50 kat/regen scrapper.
Always wanted to, never got a chance, if it's not in a weekend, I'll be able to, so yay!
Oh go on.
Taunt team on J's raid (Hiya Kinslayer) and volunteering for the same duty again.
Sara Aegis, 50 Inv/En/EM tank
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Hmmm, I'll mark this down, always wanted to join a Hami raid, though never entered one.
Grav Mistress, lvl50 Grav/FF controler
@ShadowGhost & @Ghostie
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Signing up psdock lvl 50 illusion/empathy, i can fly myself
Well, it looks like it's turning into a Guardians day out, so I might as well wander along.
Hikari-Hime, 50 Emp/Psi/Psi, and I'll probably have Doctor Temporis, 49 Grav/Kin, in tow.
Powers - Critters
The Hamidon has been increased in difficulty. It is now capable of using one of its attack powers even when Held, Slept, or Stunned.
Not sure how much of an effect this will have but it's a Hami buff that went in and has only juste been added to the patch notes
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Powers - Critters
The Hamidon has been increased in difficulty. It is now capable of using one of its attack powers even when Held, Slept, or Stunned.
Not sure how much of an effect this will have but it's a Hami buff that went in and has only juste been added to the patch notes
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3rd time's a charm
Edit: Fixed subject back to the old one.
Defiant's Raid has been called off due to the change to PAs, they used the old tactic anyway, I hope the one we used in my raid will work but I'm a bit unsure now, as the Mitos will hold people trough mez protection and the Dispersion Bubbles won't be enough for us to stay on our feet...Anyway, looking forward to this and bumping the thread a bit
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as the Mitos will hold people trough mez protection
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they do?! hmm... missing patch notes AGAIN?
EDIT: just thought of something, seeing hami can attack while held, will he spawn mitos as well? Doubt it though, as otherwise they could just make him immune to holds
"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"
Total Cat @Stagefright
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as the Mitos will hold people trough mez protection
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they do?! hmm... missing patch notes AGAIN?
EDIT: just thought of something, seeing hami can attack while held, will he spawn mitos as well? Doubt it though, as otherwise they could just make him immune to holds
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Looks like he won't spawn mitos while held since in the US servers they took him down and I doubt they even THEY can survive a mito spawn but there will be some problems telling when he's held..
what time is the hami raid?
ill be there with any AT ya short of.
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