Why don't free respecs stack?


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<Insert my sob story about being gone this weekend and getting called away last night and missing my respecs on characters before the patch. Also insert statements of aggravation.>

Why can't granted free respecs stack?


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Cause they don't...


 

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Cause if you are like me and you are pleased with your character that you have been working slowly on for the past 3 years, you woild now have about 15 freespecs.
Which I could then use to get lotsa money by selling back my enhancments. Not like I need the money, but I could...


 

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<Insert my sob story about being gone this weekend and getting called away last night and missing my respecs on characters before the patch. Also insert statements of aggravation.>

Why can't granted free respecs stack?

[/ QUOTE ] If the free respecs are so important why do you hold onto them?


 

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I used to always try to use my freespec before the next one was issued... then I realized, why the hell am I getting so worked up over it? Not like my build is suddenly gonna become magically better just by respec'ing


(my build became magically better for my main character when they buffed Stalkers to not suck )


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Currently I'm just using the free respecs to pull expensive enhancements off retired characters and alternate builds.


 

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Currently I'm just using the free respecs to pull expensive enhancements off retired characters and alternate builds.

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That is the true purpose of a respec.


 

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Cause if you are like me and you are pleased with your character that you have been working slowly on for the past 3 years, you woild now have about 15 freespecs.
Which I could then use to get lotsa money by selling back my enhancments. Not like I need the money, but I could...

[/ QUOTE ]I'm failing to see how that would work. Once you sell back your enhancements, you have none. You could respec again, but you'd have no enhancements to sell back the second time. Unless you bought new ones, but that just would lead to buying and reselling the same ones again. No profit that I can see.


 

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Cause if you are like me and you are pleased with your character that you have been working slowly on for the past 3 years, you woild now have about 15 freespecs.
Which I could then use to get lotsa money by selling back my enhancments. Not like I need the money, but I could...

[/ QUOTE ]I'm failing to see how that would work. Once you sell back your enhancements, you have none. You could respec again, but you'd have no enhancements to sell back the second time. Unless you bought new ones, but that just would lead to buying and reselling the same ones again. No profit that I can see.

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You can pull only 10 enhancements out of you toon during single respec...
Edit: So, you need multiple respecs to pull off all enhancements


 

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Cause if you are like me and you are pleased with your character that you have been working slowly on for the past 3 years, you woild now have about 15 freespecs.
Which I could then use to get lotsa money by selling back my enhancments. Not like I need the money, but I could...

[/ QUOTE ]I'm failing to see how that would work. Once you sell back your enhancements, you have none. You could respec again, but you'd have no enhancements to sell back the second time. Unless you bought new ones, but that just would lead to buying and reselling the same ones again. No profit that I can see.

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If you sell to NPCs, yes. But if you instead pull them off to sell on the market, you can only carry 10 at a time. Meaning you'd need to do at least 6 respecs to pull stuff off of a high level character.


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Cause if you are like me and you are pleased with your character that you have been working slowly on for the past 3 years, you woild now have about 15 freespecs.


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A good number of my 50s have 3 (or 4 redside) earned respecs banked. In addition most would have multiple freespecs if they stacked.

The lack of stacking is basically to try to limit them, they are intdended to be used to fix characters whose powers have changed, not provide and endless source of respecs on a whim.

Heck with my altism I have several characters who are pre-travel power and if respecs stacked would have 3 respecs now.



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Currently I'm just using the free respecs to pull expensive enhancements off retired characters and alternate builds.

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That is the true purpose of a respec.

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if freespecs stacked people like me would have eleventybillion of them.

also the intent of them is to allow players to adapt to power changes in the latest issue, not to stockpile for a rainy day.


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Cause if you are like me and you are pleased with your character that you have been working slowly on for the past 3 years, you woild now have about 15 freespecs.
Which I could then use to get lotsa money by selling back my enhancments. Not like I need the money, but I could...

[/ QUOTE ]I'm failing to see how that would work. Once you sell back your enhancements, you have none. You could respec again, but you'd have no enhancements to sell back the second time. Unless you bought new ones, but that just would lead to buying and reselling the same ones again. No profit that I can see.

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Your toon is at 27 and you outfit it with lvl 30 SOs. You play through to level 32 with those SOs which are now yellow and on the brink of turning red. You...

1) Buy level 35 SOs or level 35 IOs and replace all your level 30 SOs. This costs you X-inf.

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2) You respec and pull out your 10 most valuable level 30 SO (damage and accuracy, I believe) and you either sell them on the market, or just sell them back at stores. Then you buy all your new SO or IO enhancements like you did in option 1. This costs X-infl minus the price of what you sell those 10 enhancements for.

You might not turn a profit, but you'll certainly have more in your pocket using option 2 rather than option 1.

This also helps if you are planning to delete a character and want to x-fer as much inf as possible to another toon.


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2) You respec and pull out your 10 most valuable level 30 SO (damage and accuracy, I believe) and you either sell them on the market, or just sell them back at stores. Then you buy all your new SO or IO enhancements like you did in option 1. This costs X-infl minus the price of what you sell those 10 enhancements for.


[/ QUOTE ] I believe TO, DO, and SO enhancements sell back for their original purchase price if you sell them at the respec screen.


 

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2) You respec and pull out your 10 most valuable level 30 SO (damage and accuracy, I believe) and you either sell them on the market, or just sell them back at stores. Then you buy all your new SO or IO enhancements like you did in option 1. This costs X-infl minus the price of what you sell those 10 enhancements for.


[/ QUOTE ] I believe TO, DO, and SO enhancements sell back for their original purchase price if you sell them at the respec screen.

[/ QUOTE ]Which means pulling any off causes you to get less money in the end. It's only IOs that you ever want to sell after a respec.


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My mistake.

Either way you end up with more inf by doing a respec than by not, and this is probably part of the reason freespecs don't stack.


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2) You respec and pull out your 10 most valuable level 30 SO (damage and accuracy, I believe) and you either sell them on the market, or just sell them back at stores. Then you buy all your new SO or IO enhancements like you did in option 1. This costs X-infl minus the price of what you sell those 10 enhancements for.


[/ QUOTE ] I believe TO, DO, and SO enhancements sell back for their original purchase price if you sell them at the respec screen.

[/ QUOTE ]And IOs sell for their crafting price (in the case of common IOs, their memorized crafting price)


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<Insert my sob story about being gone this weekend and getting called away last night and missing my respecs on characters before the patch. Also insert statements of aggravation.>

Why can't granted free respecs stack?

[/ QUOTE ] If the free respecs are so important why do you hold onto them?

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Because I hadn't gotten around to respec'ing my 10th alt and got called away last night and wasted it? I had been primarily working on my main, my 4th, 6th, and 7th alt.


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That, and for ease-of-coding, it is a Boolean value (0 or 1). No room for a 2, or a 3, etc.


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Why can't granted free respecs stack?

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Like everything else in human existence, it was a choice made by someone. I'm sure whomever it was had a reason for just one freespec slot per character, but they could just as easily have gone with six or twelve.

Whatever the reason for pretending to bottleneck the respec supply, it doesn't seem to matter. Over the past five years my main character has been through 23 respecs and still has two left over. They give out freespecs nearly every issue, you will get vet respecs, and you can buy them now.


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Because then we would have less need to complete content and/or pay the company to make changes to our characters.


 

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The purpose of a freespec is to give players the opportunity to adapt their character to take into account the power and game mechanic changes made during a major release. If you do not use your freespec, then the power/game mechanic changes from that release clearly did not affect you so greatly that you required the freespec in the first place. Letting them stack would go against the purpose of giving them out in the first place.


 

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That, and for ease-of-coding, it is a Boolean value (0 or 1). No room for a 2, or a 3, etc.

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Good hypothesis, but I do not think that is the case here.

If it was, then the Patron respec would not stack with the other Freespec.