How do they get so much influence/infamy?

I've been a subscriber a little over three years now, only now do I have a toon approaching 50 (a level 48 MA/SR scrapper).

I'd like to start IO-ing this guy out, but all the stuff I want is pricey. I've always mainly soloed, due to the off times I play it's hard to meet people who play regularly.

I've never farmed or PLed. Hell, I even missed the boat with all the AE Comms officer farms. Had a few characters catch a few levels that way but that was it.

So tell me what to do, how do people generate all the influence to buy these expensive IO sets? Running certain task forces? Certain missions to look for? What?

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Run task/strike forces, farm, play the markets, etc.

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Use merits from TFs to buy popular recipes, craft and sell the IOs. Memorize common IO recipes, craft and sell the ones everyone needs (Damage, Acc, Endurance, recharge). Buy up salvage at low prices, flip and resell at higher prices.

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So tell me what to do, how do people generate all the influence to buy these expensive IO sets?

[/ QUOTE ]In general: Playing more than you have.

You can get money from playing the market... which requires money and/or drops.
You can get money from selling drops... which requires defeating enemies.
You can get money from defeating enemies... which requires playing.

Simply put: playing more gets you more money to spend. Hardcore players who're online hours a day will end up with better stuff than casual players who are online hours a month.

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Or earn AE Tickets and buy the recipes with them. You don't really need to farm the AE either to do so. Same goes for the salvage.

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So tell me what to do, how do people generate all the influence to buy these expensive IO sets?

[/ QUOTE ]In general: Playing more than you have.

You can get money from playing the market... which requires money and/or drops.
You can get money from selling drops... which requires defeating enemies.
You can get money from defeating enemies... which requires playing.

Simply put: playing more gets you more money to spend. Hardcore players who're online hours a day will end up with better stuff than casual players who are online hours a month.

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Technically, if you are on hours a month, you have to be on hours a day since months are made of days. Unless of course you only play minutes a day that don't add to hours in that span, but over the course of a month they add up to hours.

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I make mine on the market.

If you don't want complex directions: When you can afford to buy one recipe of one thing you want: Buy two. Craft both. Slot one, sell one. If it's a REALLY good seller (more than double your money, fast) consider "Buy three, sell two." Don't buy more than three of the same thing. Last weekend hero-side Celerity: stealth dropped by a factor of two. Don't get caught holding twenty of them.

Step 1: First 1-5 million.

IMMEDIATE BUT TEDIOUS #1: Buy snipe,confuse, etc. recipes for 101, when full sell to vendor for 100 per level (usually lots in the 30-46 range; if there aren't 20 for sale and 0 bidders, don't bother.) Makes around 50K per run, depending on how many recipes you can hold.

IMMEDIATE BUT TEDIOUS #2: Buy SO's at wents for cheap, when full sell to vendor for many thousands more. Makes around 100K per run, but the bidding SUCKS.

LESS IMMEDIATE #1: Leave bids up on stacks of "generic" recipes for low prices, sell to vendor.

LESS IMMEDIATE #2: Put in bids for midlevel common IO's (end red, damage, things people actually use) for 26K or something. Wait a couple days. Resell for 101K or 201K or whatever- lower than the last 5 but still a lot higher than you bought it for.

Step 2: 5 million to 50 million.

METHOD 1: Memorize a recipe- buy salvage (bid low and wait) , buy recipes (bid low and wait), craft 10 at level X+5 and 10 at level X+10 (25 and 30, or 35 and 40.) Sell results at, probably, slight loss. At some point you will memorize the thing and not need recipes, AND pay half for crafting. Continue to sell at same price, make many thousands more inf. Churn out 10 of these every time you log on. That's a million or two every time you log on.

METHOD 2: Find a cheapie set recipe- I used to use level 30 Karma Def/Rech or Def/End- and buy one, buy the salvage, craft it and sell it. This should get you half a million or a million. Do this a few times with guaranteed winners at the top level- Crushing Impact, Thunderstrike, Doctored Wounds. Million inf per IO, it adds up pretty fast.

50 M and MORE: I do this by crafting and selling expensive IO's. Think about the stuff people want (look at some builds) and see what you can afford, what it's selling for crafted and what the recipe is selling for. Check crafting cost and salvage cost. Find something where you can pretty much double your money and build a FEW of them. Niches collapse without warning, so don't get overly invested in any one thing.

Continue along this path and you can be an Ebil Billionaire too.

There are other ways in the 50+ million game.

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With my characters created since I9, I simply sell the drops I don't want and have a fistfull of inf by level 40-50.

I bid low and wait and do not pay buy it now prices for the stuff I want.

With my old pre-I9 characters, they struggle but common IOs work very well as do the cheaper IOs. I just ignore seeking set bonuses.

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This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

I play the markets, and pimp my cat-ladies.

Between the two I make a boat load of inf, homie.

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In General, you don't play enough for those expensive IO's, if after 3 years you do not have a lvl 50.

That is not a bad thing! You have a life, which is better than all of the expensive IO's.

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Marketeering can get them quick and easy if you've got some decent seed cash. I took my dominator from 30 million to 700m or so in a month of marketing for 10 minutes a day--5 in the morning and 5 at night. Place up lowball bids for set IO recipes that have a decent demand. Craft them. Sell the IO for about twice what you paid for it... repeat.

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I've been a subscriber a little over three years now, only now do I have a toon approaching 50 (a level 48 MA/SR scrapper).

I'd like to start IO-ing this guy out, but all the stuff I want is pricey. I've always mainly soloed, due to the off times I play it's hard to meet people who play regularly.

I've never farmed or PLed. Hell, I even missed the boat with all the AE Comms officer farms. Had a few characters catch a few levels that way but that was it.

So tell me what to do, how do people generate all the influence to buy these expensive IO sets? Running certain task forces? Certain missions to look for? What?

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For all those saying OP doesn't play enough to get Inf at the levels he is seeking - I am assuming that's because he doesn't have a 50 after 3 years playtime. right?

Actually, it took me about that long to get a character to 50, and after 4 1/2 years of play, that's the only one I have.

Of course, I also have at least 60 other characters I alternate between.

Maybe I'm being a bit oversensitive here, but only having 1 level 50 does not necessarily mean not playing a lot. It means not playing that particular character a lot.

Anyway, OP, you have been given some good tips & pointers. I'm in the camp that sells any drop I don't need wherever it will net me the most Inf - market or vendor. I take that Inf I raise to buy other stuff I want. If you haven't been doing that since the time the markets opened, you are now behind and need to make some efforts to raise funds, perhaps by using Fulmens' post in this thread.

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The baseline earning rate for a level 50 is about a million inf per hour*, thats something like my emp/elec defender soloing, and includes selling drops to Vendoers. The 'real' rate is significantly higher due to most salvage and recipes being sold for more at Wents/BM than to a Vendor.

Run a Task Forces, bam a few million inf drops onto you, and as you aren't slotting new things due to levelling up it starts to grow. Get a good purple drop (like I did this weekend) BAM 150 million instantly. Basically those big hits, up your average earning rates significantly, as long as you out enough time in to give the law of averages time to work.


*From the Cats Hour Challange thread, long sicne purged. The baseline for a non-solo optomised 50 is 1 million inf/hour**

** Squez on a Mind Controller was the worst at 800 000 inf in the hour, but everyone knows Squez needs to lern2play.

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For all those saying OP doesn't play enough to get Inf at the levels he is seeking - I am assuming that's because he doesn't have a 50 after 3 years playtime. right?

[/ QUOTE ]I can't speak for others, but I'm saying he doesn't play enough to get the inf levels he wants because you increase your inf by playing*. Therefore, if you don't have the amount of inf ou want, you haven't played enough.


* Marketeering can be done without playing, but it also requires a base to start from.

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Can you clarify as to "what you want" being too pricey as far as IO's go?

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I look for Set IOs with a significant margin between recipe and crafted price, moderate crafting costs, decent supply of the recipe, and high turnover of the crafted Enh. If something isn't going to net me 1.5 million in around 24 hrs, I consider it not worth an auction slot. Maintenance of sales takes around 15 min at a time, gets me tens of millions per day, and I spend the rest of my time playing.

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What server are you on? If Justice, let me know i'll let you have some inf to get you started.

Like the others have said, the more you play the better the stuff you get. I play about 3 hours per day. Weekends can go up to 10 or more. I have alot of shinies and inf.

The main thing i'd do in your case is get your toon to 50. That'll open up doors to more inf gained by playing the game. Missions, TF's (i'd recommend the ITF), streeting in PI. (i've gotten several purps in PI just by killing scientists)

The market is a game in itself really. You can play it at any level to make inf. Though i only sell, never buy.

Playing in the AE can net big inf. Today i rolled a silver 20-24 range and got a Perf. Shifter: Chance for +end. Crafted it sells for 40mil or so the last 5 have at level 21. (which is what i got)

Good luck.

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Learn the market, learn what sells high, what sells low, ,and at what times the market is at it's busiest, and it's quietist, learn whats in demand, what isn't. Once you figure all this out you can be a billionare, you will have lots of boredom but your inf will mysteriously fill with lots of zero's, be patient, discover the market and you will discover just how easy it is to make inf in this game.

Time & patience with the market = Billions of inf and boredom with the game lol, but you'll be rich so who cares?

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** Squez on a Mind Controller was the worst at 800 000 inf in the hour, but everyone knows Squez needs to lern2play.

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Yea verily he sucketh.

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Thanks for the help guys. I'm going to print this thread out for reference.

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* Marketeering can be done without playing, but it also requires a base to start from.

[/ QUOTE ] Not much of one. You can turn 10k influence into 1 billion in the span of a month if you market aggressively.

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Thanks for the help guys. I'm going to print this thread out for reference.

[/ QUOTE ] Also, read The Market section of the forums and check out the guides.

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* Marketeering can be done without playing, but it also requires a base to start from.

[/ QUOTE ] Not much of one. You can turn 10k influence into 1 billion in the span of a month if you market aggressively.

[/ QUOTE ]I frequently turn 3k into anywhere from 1/2 a million to 5 million on characters in just a few levels time by playing the market.

And I've been basically using the same strategy since the market was added, and it takes very little time to actually do

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Really it depends on the Lvl of IO'ness you want. The reason some of the more pricier IOs are soo expensive is the fact that there is a heck of alot more influence at play than there ever has been in this game. I remember when my Main had 60 Million influence on hand and people were amazed at me for having soo much.

You sound like a casual player and that being said don't fool yourself into thinking you're gonna get rich off the market as a casual player. Guys who play the market to make influence are playing a whole different game from the average farmer/player. You can build a decent build with alot of the cheaper IO recipes, Purples are overrated IMO.

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You sound like a casual player and that being said don't fool yourself into thinking you're gonna get rich off the market as a casual player.

[/ QUOTE ] I disagree. The market is simply the most effective way to make tons of influence. Spend about 5-10 minutes a day, at most, and you can make million after million easily. Even if you just log on a few days a week you can still make tons of influence, it will just take longer.

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