I thought CoX was a Teen rated game?!?!?!
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Ad Astra,
Posted on: 2009-06-26 21:28 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Don't post so fast!
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That's what SHE said. 
Then she left disappointed. 
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Gosh darnit, PK. You owe me a new monitor and a cup of coffee. :<
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I'll get you a cup of coffee. We're supposed to have coffee together anyway right? Also: let's crossdress for our date!
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But every time I wonder about the logistics of doing this, you get all quiet and I start to wonder! D:
And, I dunno if it'd qualify as 'cross dressing' in this day and age, thanks to Mary Tyler Moore and her insistent desire to wear pants on camera. Now, it's socially acceptable for women to wear what were traditionally considered 'male' clothes, whereas the opposite STILL makes you a freak.
People confuse me.
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I don't know, Mrs Doubtfire was all about a guy cross dressing as a woman to be able to be around his kids more often, and that was quite acceptable (only PG-13).
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That's one of my favorite movies.
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That's what SHE said.
Then she left disappointed.
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Gosh darnit, PK. You owe me a new monitor and a cup of coffee. :<
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I'll get you a cup of coffee. We're supposed to have coffee together anyway right? Also: let's crossdress for our date!
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But every time I wonder about the logistics of doing this, you get all quiet and I start to wonder! D:
And, I dunno if it'd qualify as 'cross dressing' in this day and age, thanks to Mary Tyler Moore and her insistent desire to wear pants on camera. Now, it's socially acceptable for women to wear what were traditionally considered 'male' clothes, whereas the opposite STILL makes you a freak.
People confuse me.
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What if I dress like a guy who's dressed like a woman?
Also, I can never catch you in-game. 
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But that'd make you the chick, disguised as a dude, while still being a chick! :O
And I have a PM box. I've been having trouble actually getting time to play at all lately, really. Net issues, family deciding they need me, local gaming group, stuff breaking (today's broken stuff: Coffee machine - amusing coincedence, that), etc. S'drivin' me nerts.
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Also, I can never catch you in-game.
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She's a Pokemon?
Like a Chiaotzu?
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Don't post so fast!
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That's what SHE said.
Then she left disappointed.
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Gosh darnit, PK. You owe me a new monitor and a cup of coffee. :<
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I'll get you a cup of coffee. We're supposed to have coffee together anyway right? Also: let's crossdress for our date!
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But every time I wonder about the logistics of doing this, you get all quiet and I start to wonder! D:
And, I dunno if it'd qualify as 'cross dressing' in this day and age, thanks to Mary Tyler Moore and her insistent desire to wear pants on camera. Now, it's socially acceptable for women to wear what were traditionally considered 'male' clothes, whereas the opposite STILL makes you a freak.
People confuse me.
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I don't know, Mrs Doubtfire was all about a guy cross dressing as a woman to be able to be around his kids more often, and that was quite acceptable (only PG-13).
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That's one of my favorite movies.
[/ QUOTE ]Obviously it was nothing more than pro-crossdresser propaganda! 
Did I do that right?
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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And, I dunno if it'd qualify as 'cross dressing' in this day and age, thanks to Mary Tyler Moore and her insistent desire to wear pants on camera. Now, it's socially acceptable for women to wear what were traditionally considered 'male' clothes, whereas the opposite STILL makes you a freak.
People confuse me.
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I have a partial answer, but it is long, twisted, involves the softest of science social anthropology and after I explained it, would still leave you feeling pretty crappy.
Quick version, power.
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Obviously it was nothing more than pro-crossdresser propaganda!
Did I do that right?
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I think so. A for effort?
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They are introducing cross dressing.
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no they aren't.
they're introducing sex changes.
And my character The Crossdressing Zombie couldn't be happier!
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Obviously it was nothing more than pro-crossdresser propaganda!
Did I do that right?
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I think so. A for effort?
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YAY!
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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Pardon me if this has already been stated; I haven't yet gone through the entire thread.
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THIS IS NOT CROSSDRESSING!
Male characters have not gained the ability to wear lipstick, pencil skirts, or a wedding dress. Likewise, female characters have not gained the ability to have beards or wear some of the typically "male" clothing options previously denied them (I can't think of any off the top of my head). This is switching out one character model for another. There is nothing inherently sexual about this. It only becomes a sexual thing when people want it to be sexual, be they playing it up or trying to stamp it out.
Positron: "There are no bugs [in City of Heroes], just varying degrees of features."
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Pardon me if this has already been stated; I haven't yet gone through the entire thread.
*Ahem*
THIS IS NOT CROSSDRESSING!
Male characters have not gained the ability to wear lipstick, pencil skirts, or a wedding dress. Likewise, female characters have not gained the ability to have beards or wear some of the typically "male" clothing options previously denied them (I can't think of any off the top of my head). This is switching out one character model for another. There is nothing inherently sexual about this. It only becomes a sexual thing when people want it to be sexual, be they playing it up or trying to stamp it out.
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A point that has been brought up repeatedly and has been ignored.
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As far as the cartoons examples go. What happen to two wrongs dont make a right? I never said i agree with it.
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Actually I never asked if you AGREED with it. What I asked was does Bugs Bunny merit an "M" rating on his Looney Tunes cartoons because of his cross dressing, and if so, why hasn't anyone noticed in over 50 years?
You are contending that "cross dressing" violates the "T" rating, so I am wondering why Looney Tunes is rated for Everyone not just Teens, much less Mature, when it contains quite a bit of cross dressing. I am expecting you to reconcile this paradox or admit you don't know what you're talking about (or are, in fact, just a troll)
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Originally Posted by eltonio
This is over the top mental slavery.
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And could I also point out: This game has always allowed you to cross dress?
Steps to cross dress, workable since i0
1.) Make a character
2.) Log in
3.) Say 'lulz, I'm actually a <insert opposite gender> in drag!'
4.) Congratulations, you've cross dressed in 12-year-old style aka OP style.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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As far as the cartoons examples go. What happen to two wrongs dont make a right? I never said i agree with it.
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Actually I never asked if you AGREED with it. What I asked was does Bugs Bunny merit an "M" rating on his Looney Tunes cartoons because of his cross dressing, and if so, why hasn't anyone noticed in over 50 years?
You are contending that "cross dressing" violates the "T" rating, so I am wondering why Looney Tunes is rated for Everyone not just Teens, much less Mature, when it contains quite a bit of cross dressing. I am expecting you to reconcile this paradox or admit you don't know what you're talking about (or are, in fact, just a troll)
[/ QUOTE ]You're expecting that? I'm expecting him to ignore your point and say you lack morals.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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As far as the cartoons examples go. What happen to two wrongs dont make a right? I never said i agree with it.
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Actually I never asked if you AGREED with it. What I asked was does Bugs Bunny merit an "M" rating on his Looney Tunes cartoons because of his cross dressing, and if so, why hasn't anyone noticed in over 50 years?
You are contending that "cross dressing" violates the "T" rating, so I am wondering why Looney Tunes is rated for Everyone not just Teens, much less Mature, when it contains quite a bit of cross dressing. I am expecting you to reconcile this paradox or admit you don't know what you're talking about (or are, in fact, just a troll)
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touché
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Originally Posted by eltonio
This is over the top mental slavery.
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Pardon me if this has already been stated; I haven't yet gone through the entire thread.
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THIS IS NOT CROSSDRESSING!
Male characters have not gained the ability to wear lipstick, pencil skirts, or a wedding dress. Likewise, female characters have not gained the ability to have beards or wear some of the typically "male" clothing options previously denied them (I can't think of any off the top of my head). This is switching out one character model for another. There is nothing inherently sexual about this. It only becomes a sexual thing when people want it to be sexual, be they playing it up or trying to stamp it out.
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The OP is unable to understand that costume slots encompass more than clothing. He is unable to conceive of the idea that a costume slot is anything but an outfit: if someone has a human costume slot and a lizard-man costume slot, then the human doesn't turn into a lizard in his mind, it puts on a lizard mask. Similarly, if a man changes into a woman, it actually put on a woman-mask and wore a dress. He's narrowly and hyper focused on the terminology "Costume Slot" to the point he believes it has an in-game reality. Why he doesn't consider slot 0 a costume I dont know.
But really all of this is because the OP simply doesn't understand what a costume slot represents.
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Originally Posted by eltonio
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You know, after all this.. i want all costumes to be open to all genders.. male/female/nethergoat.
Why can't my Namesake have a pencil skirt and the cool Magic booster clothing.... i demand change, i demand that we drop the whole dichotomy and do what i say.
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As far as the cartoons examples go. What happen to two wrongs dont make a right? I never said i agree with it.
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Actually I never asked if you AGREED with it. What I asked was does Bugs Bunny merit an "M" rating on his Looney Tunes cartoons because of his cross dressing, and if so, why hasn't anyone noticed in over 50 years?
You are contending that "cross dressing" violates the "T" rating, so I am wondering why Looney Tunes is rated for Everyone not just Teens, much less Mature, when it contains quite a bit of cross dressing. I am expecting you to reconcile this paradox or admit you don't know what you're talking about (or are, in fact, just a troll)
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touché
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No touchie!
You lack morals.
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What if slot 0 was a lizard man? Does that mean if an alternative slot is a human man, he puts on a human mask?
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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It's funny but a couple of days ago I decided to play Devil's Advocate when discusing the new body type change feature and having to pay extra for it in a Booster Pack. In that post I talked about reasons why people, just like you, would get upset about this feature:
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Another reason which is a bit less obvious but significant is that there are strange people out there who actually get their panties in a bunch over the idea of "sex changes" in a game like this. Even though body/sex changes are a classic comic book staple there are people who think that kind of thing is "creepy" or "sinful" or whatever hang-up they are using to rationalize that it should be avoided at all costs. The beauty of the "you have to pay extra for it to get it" system is that if you're one of those kinds of people who'd rather not deal with it then you don't have to buy it, thus keeping yourself safe from the temptation or whatever. If the feature was freely given to everyone then I'd bet you'd have some people all bent out of shape over it. *shrugs*
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I guess I called it 100%. Since you actually seem to be one of the hypothetical uptight people I mentioned I suppose you can "protest" this by not buying it and move on to let the vast majority, who do not have a problem with it, enjoy it.
Sorry your misconceptions have allowed you to have a problem with this new feature.
Ultimately that's your problem to deal with, not anyone else's.
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As far as the cartoons examples go. What happen to two wrongs dont make a right? I never said i agree with it.
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Actually I never asked if you AGREED with it. What I asked was does Bugs Bunny merit an "M" rating on his Looney Tunes cartoons because of his cross dressing, and if so, why hasn't anyone noticed in over 50 years?
You are contending that "cross dressing" violates the "T" rating, so I am wondering why Looney Tunes is rated for Everyone not just Teens, much less Mature, when it contains quite a bit of cross dressing. I am expecting you to reconcile this paradox or admit you don't know what you're talking about (or are, in fact, just a troll)
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touché
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No touchie!
You lack morals.
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He grabbed my touché! 
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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Pardon me if this has already been stated; I haven't yet gone through the entire thread.
*Ahem*
THIS IS NOT CROSSDRESSING!
Male characters have not gained the ability to wear lipstick, pencil skirts, or a wedding dress. Likewise, female characters have not gained the ability to have beards or wear some of the typically "male" clothing options previously denied them (I can't think of any off the top of my head). This is switching out one character model for another. There is nothing inherently sexual about this. It only becomes a sexual thing when people want it to be sexual, be they playing it up or trying to stamp it out.
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A point that has been brought up repeatedly and has been ignored.
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Yeah, I see that now that I've read this much of the thread. At least I'm not the only person to actually have the common sense necessary to realize that point.
Positron: "There are no bugs [in City of Heroes], just varying degrees of features."
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if you have COSTUME SLOTS that look like men and some COSTUME SLOTS that look like females that is called drag.
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[...]Or it's called "these are 5 different characters under the name Sentai Force".
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I just wanted to say how clever an idea that is.
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Hey Since the males can wear costume parts from the valkyrie pack be considered cross dressing since valkyries were all woman?
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What if slot 0 was a lizard man? Does that mean if an alternative slot is a human man, he puts on a human mask?
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But every time I wonder about the logistics of doing this, you get all quiet and I start to wonder! D:
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Don't post so fast!
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That's what SHE said.
Then she left disappointed.
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Gosh darnit, PK. You owe me a new monitor and a cup of coffee. :<
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I'll get you a cup of coffee. We're supposed to have coffee together anyway right? Also: let's crossdress for our date!
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And, I dunno if it'd qualify as 'cross dressing' in this day and age, thanks to Mary Tyler Moore and her insistent desire to wear pants on camera. Now, it's socially acceptable for women to wear what were traditionally considered 'male' clothes, whereas the opposite STILL makes you a freak.
People confuse me.
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I don't know, Mrs Doubtfire was all about a guy cross dressing as a woman to be able to be around his kids more often, and that was quite acceptable (only PG-13).
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