1/3 xp given in MA arcs NOT True

American_Knight · 06-09-2009 02:05 PM

In short, it comes down to risk versus reward.

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From the inception of this game, the concepts of balance and risk versus reward have been a tightrope the developers have had to walk in order to make the game fun and rewarding. Add to the mix that this is a game about super heroics, and the task of having a player feel super (yet still feel challenged) becomes increasingly difficult.

For years, whenever a new issue was created, of vital importance to the development team was that the new content would not unbalance the game, favor a particular play-style, or create exploits that would tamper with the rule of appropriate risk versus reward. Because the content in the previous issues was created by developers, control of what was produced was pretty absolute.

With the creation of MA, much of the power to create content has been turned over to the players. While it was hoped that this would allow players to create missions inspired by players that kept to the spirit of City of Heroes that they could share with the community, it would appear that the majority of the player-base that uses this feature has done so for purposes other than what it was intended to be used for. Namely, the idea of risk versus reward has been circumvented with the creation of farm missions.

Perhaps it was naïve for the developers to think that their many requests by them to not create such missions would be listened to. Unfortunately, given the current state of affairs regarding MA and the time and effort it would take to keep up with those that would counter each effort the developers would use to prevent MA from being exploited, the solution for reduction of xp in the MA arcs seems to be the easiest solution to the problem.

With a reduction of xp given in an MA arc, a disincentive to farm these arcs would be created, yet persons still wanting to create or play player-generated content could still do so easily. This solution will not please everyone, but will allow the staff to return to other projects that will enrich the game for a long time to come.

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So what do you think of my announcement?

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Changed the title to further increase accuracy. -AK

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Sermon · 06-09-2009 02:08 PM

What is this?

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SonicBang · 06-09-2009 02:08 PM

Where did you find this?

Lady_Sadako · 06-09-2009 02:10 PM

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So what do you think of my announcement?

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It couldn't be more fake if you'd written it in crayon.

But I guess you intended that to be obvious, so...

Umbral · 06-09-2009 02:11 PM

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Where did you find this?

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He made it up, not that I don't support something like this. I never thought that AE should be an equivalent leveling path to running dev content.

Memphis_Bill · 06-09-2009 02:12 PM

He says "his" announcement.

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Until I see it tied to a redname or a source, it's just him. QUick google on a sentence in there that should be unique brought up exactly zero hits.

Seems more like someone trying to stir the pot.

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Liathan · 06-09-2009 02:12 PM

trying to cause more forum drama are we?

MrVacant · 06-09-2009 02:12 PM

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You're about 2 months late for April Fools.

Lady_Sadako · 06-09-2009 02:12 PM

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yes, I'd like to know where you got that.

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He made it up, and says so:

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Hellguard · 06-09-2009 02:15 PM

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yes, I'd like to know where you got that.

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He made it up, and says so:

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Also, Mod8 changed the title of the thread to make it more accurate...

BrokenPrey · 06-09-2009 02:19 PM

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Changed the title for increased accuracy. -Mod08

Edited by Moderator 08 (06/09/09 05:13 PM

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Hehe

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Dave_67 · 06-09-2009 02:22 PM

Once again, I point back to my RL example of my old RPG group. We had one bad player who was trying as best he could to reap all the rewards while not putting his character in harms way. From time to time, our GM would make adjustments to the enemy or the gameworld in general. He felt that this would be an easy way to deal with things and handle the player in question.

Instead, that one player whould just shrug his shoulders and find other ways to keep doing what he was doing. At the same time, the rest of the players will have to deal with the changes, including one player who would vehimately voice these concerns to my GM friend.

It took me years before I finally got it through my GM friend's head as to how much damage he was doing to his game. Unfortuately, it didn't get through until after his game imploded.

*SIGH*

I wonder if the devs realize that the very players they are trying to deal with will just do what the one player in my group did, just go find another way to get what they want. And in the end, it will be us the regular players who will suffer.

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Mr_Squid · 06-09-2009 02:30 PM

You know? I think Mod 8 is the living embodiment of the quote; "Speak softly, and carry a big stick."

Sarrate · 06-09-2009 02:54 PM

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Once again, I point back to my RL example of my old RPG group. We had one bad player who was trying as best he could to reap all the rewards while not putting his character in harms way. From time to time, our GM would make adjustments to the enemy or the gameworld in general. He felt that this would be an easy way to deal with things and handle the player in question.

Instead, that one player whould just shrug his shoulders and find other ways to keep doing what he was doing. At the same time, the rest of the players will have to deal with the changes, including one player who would vehimately voice these concerns to my GM friend.

It took me years before I finally got it through my GM friend's head as to how much damage he was doing to his game. Unfortuately, it didn't get through until after his game imploded.

*SIGH*

I wonder if the devs realize that the very players they are trying to deal with will just do what the one player in my group did, just go find another way to get what they want. And in the end, it will be us the regular players who will suffer.

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Note Mod 8's adjustment to the posts title. The entire OP was made up just to stir the pot; it's not real.

Seek_Trouble · 06-09-2009 02:57 PM

Maybe its being announced tomorrow

Nethergoat · 06-09-2009 03:01 PM

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You know? I think Mod 8 is the living embodiment of the quote; "Speak softly, and carry a big stick."

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a big stick would be nuking this garbage dump of a thread from orbit, not changing a deliberately misleading title.

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Samuel_Tow · 06-09-2009 03:01 PM

Mu respect for Mod8 just shot up several magnitudes. Thank you!

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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

American_Knight · 06-09-2009 03:52 PM

Further changed the title to increase the accuracy of the post.

Nethergoat · 06-09-2009 03:53 PM

Paranoia becomes you, dear.

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American_Knight · 06-09-2009 03:57 PM

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Paranoia becomes you, dear.

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Funny, considering your sig.

Nethergoat · 06-09-2009 04:16 PM

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Paranoia becomes you, dear.

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Funny, considering your sig.

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reality > conspiracy.

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Mutant_Mike · 06-09-2009 04:17 PM

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Changed title again. For the last time -Mod08

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This won't end well...

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Lightfoot · 06-09-2009 04:20 PM

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Changed title again. For the last time -Mod08

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This won't end well...

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It will end with a pruned thread.

Given that it began with the OP posting a bogus Dev post, I'm surprised Mod8 posted in the thread instead of deleting outright.

So I guess that makes this IBTD+1.

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Creole Ned · 06-09-2009 04:24 PM

This thread deserves to be locked. The original post is worded in a deliberately provocative manner, to "stir the pot" as some have said. No useful discussion will come of this.

I admire Mod8's attempts to salvage it but it's really not worth it.

American_Knight · 06-09-2009 04:41 PM

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This thread deserves to be locked. The original post is worded in a deliberately provocative manner, to "stir the pot" as some have said. No useful discussion will come of this.

I admire Mod8's attempts to salvage it but it's really not worth it.

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A suggestion to improve the game really isn't worth discussing. . .

(Oh in to keep in line with all the other responders to this thread).

Mod8 is great