Dom Revamp on Test


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Woah dude. I was just asking a question, no need to nerdrage.

Ya, I tested the changes tonight a bit. Took my Earth/Fire against a +1 EB which went smoothly. Then rolled a Mind/Energy Dom and took him to level 5 running Burke's arc. Was a really fun experience.

I'll drop my feedback in the Main Thread once I get on Live to do the same missions for comparison.

Yep, so shut yo face.

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I wasn't nerdraging. I'd have to be upset to do that. Just don't call people out when you have done nothing yourself.

I'm glad you got around to testing and I'm glad you are enjoying it.

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I wasn't calling you out. I was asking if you tested the changes since you are such a vocal poster.

Try to be less defensive.

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It's generally better to just keep your mouth closed when you don't know what you are talking about. It's ok though, no harm done. You just got called out on it.

take care and happy testing.


 

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Um, sure about that? User named Ditzy_Blonde still exists under that name. Albeit they haven't posted since the 4th, and 'Southern_Comfort' only started seriously posting on the 6th, but at least as far as the board software is concerned they're not the same person. That said, southern does sound like ditzy in terms of mannerisms, etc, and the timing works out. Second account i guess?


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Have you tested the changes yet or you working on grabbing as many trial accounts as possible?

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I'm sure if you really think about it you'll figure out how I could test low level doms.

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Answer my question. Have you tested the changes?

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Just shush ,Clouded.You remind me of a smoker in L4D. Quit attacking players and test things rather than poking a player that managed to keep a level head through all the speculations. Put up or shutup. I don't see you on test when I do a search.

Anyway... took the grav//ice to RV. I am pleased. I had no endo issues with either of the 2 doms I have roamed around test with so far. However, I can see where the changes may be problematic in the mid 20's extending to the mid 30's for certain power sets.Unless the players are into builds and recognize the benefit of the performance shifter proc in stamina. A few have brought up that they dislike the idea of an AT being io dependent.After playing 2 different dominators on test I see that it appears that io dependence will prevail with the current proposed changes.

Please discuss without devolving into a flame war. I am interested in others experiences especially late game. To be honest my builds feel a bit on the 'God" side to me.

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I have played my grav/nrgy and earth/fire on test, though not exempted i was playing at level 50, and my earth/fire is slotted perma dom and has consume, had no end issues, dont even recall using consume (but again perma dom....). My grav/nrgy has common IOs but basicly almost no set bonuses, and though noticed end more, between domination and the patron end clicky thing still didnt really notice a big issue.


 

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By the way, even if the end cost has gone up for most of the attacks, the damage from Primary has not (ex: single hold and Lift). That's even more damage with no extra endurance cost.

I think may be some of you are killing faster now?

I used to see Katana users complain about endurance cost 'cause they hit so much faster after that buff. T_T Just try not to overkill things. I've seen Brutes use Knockout Blow on a target that only has 5% health left... now that is a waste of endurance.

Now it makes more sense to get sets and maybe perma-dom. I haven't decided on my first perma-dom yet.


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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By the way, even if the end cost has gone up for most of the attacks, the damage from Primary has not (ex: single hold and Lift). That's even more damage with no extra endurance cost.

I think may be some of you are killing faster now?

I used to see Katana users complain about endurance cost 'cause they hit so much faster after that buff. T_T Just try not to overkill things. I've seen Brutes use Knockout Blow on a target that only has 5% health left... now that is a waste of endurance.

Now it makes more sense to get sets and maybe perma-dom. I haven't decided on my first perma-dom yet.

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yes I think overkill is very much the case and/or using a dot st inefficient immob for damage.

The issue with having ALL of the assault powers designed for high dpa is that every attack means you are using KO blow to kill the minion with a sliver left (exageration, but hopefully you get what I mean).

At times it is nice to have a low cost attack to finish off survivors.

For a lot of doms now their cheapest option is a 6 end attack, which is higher than any other AT in the game.

Some known "end suckers" such as broadsword and iceblast even have a 5.2 end attack.

Even dom flares is 5.2 now!


 

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Um, sure about that? User named Ditzy_Blonde still exists under that name. Albeit they haven't posted since the 4th, and 'Southern_Comfort' only started seriously posting on the 6th, but at least as far as the board software is concerned they're not the same person. That said, southern does sound like ditzy in terms of mannerisms, etc, and the timing works out. Second account i guess?

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Ditzy sufferred horrible injuries in a rock climbing accident in the Davis Mountains on June 5th of this year. Her repelling partner failed to secure a pin and she plummetted 800 feet into a dry ravine.

So far I have played 5 different combinations dominators on test. I focused on high levels with the exception of starting a lowie earth//elec for kicks.The 1-10 feels the same to me. There are also not many people to team with on test server but thats neither here nor there.

The late game perma doms I have played feel almost overpowered. Yes, even a fire//psi. I have not been able to pad a map beyond 4 people. But set for 4 on ruthless the fire//psi does extremely well. As a player I never relied on just "psw" so I am used to playing that type of dom fast and furious. Others may have a different experience. I am really diggin mind probe and subdue for a 2 shot on a +2 lt and a 4 shot on a +2 boss.Thge grav//ice is making mincemeat of wardens in RV. The plant//thorn, while not as fast as the fire//psi has no difficulties on the same map.This is why I type I feel it may be a bit much. However, people will play as they are want and this change is likely needed to boost'popularity". Dom play is different than the other archetypes and I suppose this is good for a tricycle. I would be a liar if I typed that I didnt expect a nerf down the road if whats on test right now goes live .



I know players cringe when pvp is mentioned but whats happenning to dominators right now is similar to what happenned with pvp. The devs gave out a tricycle with training wheels. Same deal here.

I plan to tool around on a lvl 30 mind//elec this evening. Slotted with so's.
Please pray for,Ditzy. She is comatose!!!


 

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I have been on test and seeing my perma fire/fire dom get these changes makes me a lil dissappointed. The damage buff is a lil nice, but taking away rech and enhancing endo usage throws a kink in the low lvl plan. Combustion is a nice AOE damage power so why are u taking away damage from that? as for domination if you want dominators to feel like........well a dominator! dont take away the bonus given by clicking domination. I feel that if you're going to take away the bonus take a portion of it away. I would say let domination give 30% damage if any so that domination makes you feel like youre powering up. Me personally i would take the changes that are on test server and apply them to PvP (like the new IO sets) and take the current dominators and keep them the way they are in PvE complete with the 80% domination damage boost.


 

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Ditzy sufferred horrible injuries in a rock climbing accident in the Davis Mountains on June 5th of this year. Her repelling partner failed to secure a pin and she plummetted 800 feet into a dry ravine.

Please pray for,Ditzy. She is comatose!!!

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I was shocked to read this, unreal that she is still alive!!...may there be swift swift healing for her, Southern.


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yes I think overkill is very much the case and/or using a dot st inefficient immob for damage.

The issue with having ALL of the assault powers designed for high dpa is that every attack means you are using KO blow to kill the minion with a sliver left (exageration, but hopefully you get what I mean).

At times it is nice to have a low cost attack to finish off survivors.

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Agreed. Even Psi Dart now feels like a waste of end. I suppose I could try using Brawl, since I'm in melee anyway.

Reminds me of the times my friend and I would go into a mission, take mobs down to half health, and then compete to see who would get the kill credit for brawling them to death. Yes, we were bored.


 

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Ditzy sufferred horrible injuries in a rock climbing accident in the Davis Mountains on June 5th of this year. Her repelling partner failed to secure a pin and she plummetted 800 feet into a dry ravine.

Please pray for,Ditzy. She is comatose!!!

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I was shocked to read this, unreal that she is still alive!!...may there be swift swift healing for her, Southern.

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If thats a joke (which it probably is) its not funny.


When something good happens to me, I can never enjoy it....
I am always too busy looking for the inevitable punchline...


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Ditzy sufferred horrible injuries in a rock climbing accident in the Davis Mountains on June 5th of this year. Her repelling partner failed to secure a pin and she plummetted 800 feet into a dry ravine.

Please pray for,Ditzy. She is comatose!!!

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I was shocked to read this, unreal that she is still alive!!...may there be swift swift healing for her, Southern.

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If thats a joke (which it probably is) its not funny.

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poor taste aside, i'd rather it turns out to be a joke.


50s:
Grimmloch, Tactically Delicious, Ugly Frankie, Operative Tracker, CryoFurnace, Professional Help, Silver Sphinx, Aries Knight, Tachyon Aegis, Jade Sphinx
Currently building:
Any one of half a dozen alts!

 

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Ditzy sufferred horrible injuries in a rock climbing accident in the Davis Mountains on June 5th of this year. Her repelling partner failed to secure a pin and she plummetted 800 feet into a dry ravine.

Please pray for,Ditzy. She is comatose!!!

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I was shocked to read this, unreal that she is still alive!!...may there be swift swift healing for her, Southern.

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If thats a joke (which it probably is) its not funny.

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poor taste aside, i'd rather it turns out to be a joke.

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Yeah, no kidding. It would be an awful joke but at least it would mean no one fell 800 feet and went into a coma.

Assuming it's not, though, I am glad to hear she is at least alive. Here's hoping she recovers quickly.


 

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Uhmm you guys realize that Southern_Comfort and Ditzy_Blonde are one in the same, no?


My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi