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How is Nemeses able to utilize Steam Power so effectively. I know he's a genius inventor, but it doesn't seem like steam power could be that effective.

That and what lead him to become the super villain that he is today? Did he have some kind of tragedy behind it all?


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The Clockwork King is not being kept alive by some technological means. He is alive because he will not die. His own psychic power is sustaining his brain. Yes, that's violating the laws of physics but around here this is "two for flinching"

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My point isn't "how is he being kept alive" but rather "how did performing auto brain surgery (including reattachment of his eyes, which aren't exactly removable intact), while wounded and dying, not instantly kill him or at least cause severe damage unrelated to his madness?"

I can believe that he "nourishes" his brain psychically or whatever (to the point that I didn't even bother asking about his life support, though I've wondered). However, that's a far cry from total invulnerability to harm, which he clearly did not possess. It's difficult to believe that someone largely ignorant of neural anatomy could *remotely remove his own brain* without cutting into something important (such as whatever portion of the brain gives him his powers), killing himself or giving himself brain damage with the ensuing loss of blood pressure, or any of a hundred other likely mistakes, no matter how much he "refuses to die".

In any case, while I appreciate the thought, this thread is about looking for in-canon answers and lore.

Unless you are saying that either the game or the devs have said that he survived because "will not die", such a response is no more justified here than saying that the surgery was REALLY performed by his best friend Larry Vahzilok who is the bestest surgeon in the world (behind his more famous brother), and that the patient survived because they had previously found a jar full of magical nanobots (which are cyan in color) in a liquid that tastes like delicious fruit pie ... the very same jar that even now houses the nefarious Clockwork King! (dun dun dunnnnn).

Or simply saying that the King can actually teleport his brain out of his human body.

I don't mind people making suggestions (as I do it myself) or speculating, but only the devs can give any real answer to my questions or assumptions, unless there's something in game that I missed.

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As to who did it. The answer is obvious....

The Clockwork King's minions are nothing but puppets which are moved and powered by the the CWK's mind. CWK has thousands, or perhaps hundrreds of thousands, of Clockworks. Either the CWK creates a consciousness in each Clockwork, or each each is a seperate part of CWK's mind. In any case the sheer magnitude of what he's able to do makes him increidbly powerful. Maybe every as powers as the gods of old in his own limited way. And evern on the verge of death,

CWK's powers may have kept him alive ven with a broken bodie. CWK's powers include telesensing and telekinesis. So at a miminum, he could have kept hims heart and lungs pumping bloold and oxygen. In an extreme case CWK may have held his body together telekinetically: Pincing off burst bood vessels, holding vital blood vessels and organs intact, keeping his shattered skull whole, etc.

Ans who did the actually work was the CWK Clockwork himself directly or indirectly depending on whether Clockwork are independent creations or just fragments of CWK's mind. CWK's Clockwork carried his shattered body off to safety. CWK managed to build his new self or gets helps from other do to do.

So the lore qustions that remind are re Clockwork independent creations from CWK (even if powered by him), or are they fragments of CWK's mind (i.e. basically just puppets manimpulated by his mind)? And did CWK have the background to build his brain bucket, or did he have help? If he had help, who was it?


 

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I really like to know about the Zombie Hord from the Holloween event.

Are they Magical Zombies from a curse? A result of The Vahzilok Plague?


 

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How is Nemeses able to utilize Steam Power so effectively. I know he's a genius inventor, but it doesn't seem like steam power could be that effective.

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Just wanted to take a moment to point out that the United State's most advanced war fighting ships, the nuclear subs and aircraft carriers, are in effect powered by steam. (Reactor heats water. Water becomes steam. Steam drives turbines.)

But your question is still valid since Nemesis forces are obviously not nuclear-powered but don't seem to be powered by coal either. (Coal being the more traditional fuel of the Steam Age.) So what sort of fuel did Nemesis discover, how long has he been using it, and is it cleaner/more effiecient than all our standard fuels?


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- Did Positron use his power armor to fight crime before or after developing the ability to generate anti-matter?


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This one I can actually answer... based on Posi's official history on the main COH site, it seems he gained the ability to generate antimatter after getting hold of his armor by working for Crey and 'technically' swiping the Disaster Recovery Suit from them.

Some time after leaving Crey, due to a containment breach during one of his experiments, his body now spontaneously generates and controls antimatter.

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This one I can actually answer... based on Posi's official history on the main COH site,


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Yeah, I know. His is actually one of the most in-depth ones - probably because Matt was right there to write the thing.

I was just glad to see it because the way it describes his personality was in line with my story, so I was happy for confirmation I'd been writing him correctly!

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First of all, this has to be in the top ten thread ever.

I'm in the process of writing an arc about Kheldians and have a few questions that I would like cleared up if possible please.

- What's the history/bio of the Praetorian version of Sunstorm and Shadowstar?
- What's the name of the priestess that joined with the Shadowstar and the name of the Nictus half of Shadowstar?
- Where did the other Rikti invasions go (we know one was successfully repelled by the Praetorians) and how many were defeated or draws (like us currently)?
- Does the Praetorian world and the Rikti world have a version of Ouroboros? Do any other world have a version?

All my other questions for now have been asked by others.



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Doing Penelope Yin's arc today reminded me of this old problem I've had with the Lost. How the hell is it that they go from huge musclebound gorilla looking things, complete with tusks, to the spindly, mouthless Rikti? Sure, the Rikti are quite tall, but none of them have any real muscle mass, except maybe Hro'Dtohz and U'Kon Grai.


 

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Maybe every as powers as the gods of old in his own limited way. And evern on the verge of death,

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Doing Penelope Yin's arc today reminded me of this old problem I've had with the Lost. How the hell is it that they go from huge musclebound gorilla looking things, complete with tusks, to the spindly, mouthless Rikti? Sure, the Rikti are quite tall, but none of them have any real muscle mass, except maybe Hro'Dtohz and U'Kon Grai.

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What are the other ten or so methods of time-travel?

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My favorite is the Royal Pendent.

Or Epoch, post Blackbird.


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Going through paragon wiki and the posts in this thread I've read up on dark astoria.

My question is what is the catalyst the BP require to summon a banished god such as adamastor. What is preventing them from summoning more banished gods? Where exactly are they summoning these banished gods from? I would assume the netherworld but it doesn't appear to be specifically mentioned and i suppose it could vary from god to god. I'm building an arc based on the BP making a move to summon another banished god. I just need a couple of filler details to flush thing out.

Also is there any precedent for what the netherwolrd looks like in COx? I always thought the shard matched my internal description pretty well but I'd much rather go with what has been done.


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Doing Penelope Yin's arc today reminded me of this old problem I've had with the Lost. How the hell is it that they go from huge musclebound gorilla looking things, complete with tusks, to the spindly, mouthless Rikti? Sure, the Rikti are quite tall, but none of them have any real muscle mass, except maybe Hro'Dtohz and U'Kon Grai.

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I've always accounted this to the power armor and muscle density. ie the armor even light armor that rikti wear is powered and enables their altered gravity adjusted frames to function in earths gravity. And/Or their muscles are significantly more powerful (power to size ratio) than a humans. therefore they need less to accomplish the same. Whereas the lost are still using the same desity muscles as humans and require much more to meet the strength requirements. Or they are just mutated and have massive hormone imbalances that result in their appearance.


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What are the other ten or so methods of time-travel?

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My favorite is the Royal Pendent.

Or Epoch, post Blackbird.

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Bucket, definitely.


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- War Wall Defender mission (point of the mission is to prevent the war walls from coming down and causing another invasion. As of Issue 10, the war walls regularly fall and invasions happen)

- Ambassador Kuhr'Rekt's first story arc (villains sabotage the Traditionalist negotiations, which seems to conflict with the same villains helping to save the negotiations as members of Vanguard in the RWZ arcs)

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These aren't plot holes. Blowing up the physical wall is probably a lot owrse that the energy part going down since the physical wall stops ground troops from rushing in.

And you expect villains to be consistant in who they screw over? Sure, I'll help Vanguard...but Kuhr is paying me more, so...


 

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How is Nemeses able to utilize Steam Power so effectively. I know he's a genius inventor, but it doesn't seem like steam power could be that effective.

That and what lead him to become the super villain that he is today? Did he have some kind of tragedy behind it all?

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My own theory has always been that Nemesis is actually just like the Clockwork King-- his devices work because he THINKS they will work.

I think they're both Technopaths.

(Though I do think it'd be funny to see a couple of Nemesis soldiers standing in front of a Fake Nemesis tossing coal or wood into an open portal on his chest.)


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Doing Penelope Yin's arc today reminded me of this old problem I've had with the Lost. How the hell is it that they go from huge musclebound gorilla looking things, complete with tusks, to the spindly, mouthless Rikti? Sure, the Rikti are quite tall, but none of them have any real muscle mass, except maybe Hro'Dtohz and U'Kon Grai.

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I've always accounted this to the power armor and muscle density. ie the armor even light armor that rikti wear is powered and enables their altered gravity adjusted frames to function in earths gravity. And/Or their muscles are significantly more powerful (power to size ratio) than a humans. therefore they need less to accomplish the same. Whereas the lost are still using the same desity muscles as humans and require much more to meet the strength requirements. Or they are just mutated and have massive hormone imbalances that result in their appearance.

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Personally, I like the look of the Lost more than the Rikti. There's more variety. I would be happy to see level 50 Lost who have decided not to make the jump into becoming full fledged Rikti.


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Doing Penelope Yin's arc today reminded me of this old problem I've had with the Lost. How the hell is it that they go from huge musclebound gorilla looking things, complete with tusks, to the spindly, mouthless Rikti? Sure, the Rikti are quite tall, but none of them have any real muscle mass, except maybe Hro'Dtohz and U'Kon Grai.

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Based on there being 2 variants of Pariah (huge tusked hulks, and little Rikti-like guys in rage) I've always figured the drugs that change them don't work the same on everyone. Some get huge an muscly before their skeleton is reduced or they get denser, others shrink first, then get the knotty muscles. And we really don't know what Rikti teeth are like. They must have mouths since they talk and eat (or at least drink, based on that on mish for Serpent Drummer) and they could have big teeth in them. *shrug*
I just want to know why they go from 5-toed as humans to 2-toed as lost, to like 7-toed as Rikti.


 

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When CoV originally came out, one of the pack in collectors items was a poster with a "villains vs heroes battle scene". On the veeery far right hand side of that scene behind Ghost Widow was a character that was a creepy mixture of Tarantula Mistress and Spider Crab. What was that thing, and why haven't we ever heard or seen from it again? It appears to have been retconned out of existence like an out-of -favor member of the Communist party during Uncle Joe's heyday.

Someone thought it might be the once-mentioned and never spoken of again Weaver One.


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Yeesh! I just looked, and yes--that is creepy, wow.


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This is a fantastic thread!

Can I get a rundown of the heroes behind Statesman on the COH loading screen?
I can name all of them on the COV one so it only seems fair.


 

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Mother Mayhem seems to be an Aurora Borealis Praetorian. Is there or will there ever be a Sister Psyche one?