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Yep...AE is headed toward the ghost-town status that the Arena currently enjoys.
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Only in the same sense that when I walk across 5th Avenue in Manhattan I'm headed toward Los Angeles. There are many people who use the AE for other things than maxing reward rates.
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I think that's the kneejerk reaction that's happening here, definitely. It's not like there were no missions before AE. If you want reward rates, I could point to a dozen TF crews that run 'em nightly, even with AE in full bloom.
If you want fresh storylines, and the opportunity to make your own? Architect, baby. Sure, you can make a farm. But can you make a story people will enjoy? Which one is more rewarding to you as a whole?
(Cue the naysayer of "dont tell meh whut meh rewurds shuld b"...)
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The problem with TFs is that
1) Most of us have done them to death
2) They require certain levels to join or get xp
3) Your team is locked in so you cant add members or change the line up
4) They take a lot of running around and Kill 50 X to spawn the next mission.
5) Getting more inps can be a total pain
6) It takes X# of members to activate. My 50 spends most of his time online acting as filler so teams can get TF missions.
7) One person drops and the entire thing can be over.
NO KIDDING!! What the !@#$@ are the devs thinking? How can they take something that we've all grown accustomed to -- relied on, even -- and just yank it out of the MA experience without a care in the world!?!
The AE building is going to vacate faster than the lido deck on the Titanic after this patch. I mean, why would I ever run an MA arc again when the CHICKEN TUG ANIMATION HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE SYSTEM!?! 
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Anyways, the cap is irrevelant and a nice instance of "Dev-spin".
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This is something I don't think either side realizes.
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Oh I realize it -- though I don't believe I fall into either one of those sides.
It was a lazy, half-baked Band-Aid.
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In a way I guess it could be viewed that way. I see it more as kind of cosmetic change so yeah you are right.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
1500 per missions seems just fine to me. With a 5-mission arc, that can go to 7500 titckets, which I think is enough for 2 TF/Trial pool rolls.
I will miss the chiken tug animation, though. 
I wonder why they keep removing stuff and never saying why?
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Except for those of us who enjoyed seeing new fresh stories and enemies and who just enjoyed the tickets as what they were a bonus.
If I didn't enjoy playing the content I'd be wasting my time no matter how many rewards I earned.
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I enjoy lots of content in this game, but since tickets are the only drop you get in AE mishes, the tickets are an important part of the risk/reward deal Posi keeps preaching about. Has anyone ever gotten more than 2 pieces of rare salvage and a few recipes on a regular PvE mission?
I know I have, but that level of reward isn't possible now in AE, not matter how large the map or how many enemies you fight.
So much for risk vs. reward in AE.
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I will miss the chiken tug animation, though. I wonder why they keep removing stuff and never saying why?
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The assumption has been to take bugs out of the game until such a time as they can be fixed and reintegrated -- but, while that makes sense for maps, I'm struggling to understand how it applies to emotes.
Just noticed they lowered the merits for recipes price from merit vendors. hmmmmmmm........ stuff cost less merits now. hmmmmmm
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Except for those of us who enjoyed seeing new fresh stories and enemies and who just enjoyed the tickets as what they were a bonus.
If I didn't enjoy playing the content I'd be wasting my time no matter how many rewards I earned.
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I enjoy lots of content in this game, but since tickets are the only drop you get in AE mishes, the tickets are an important part of the risk/reward deal Posi keeps preaching about. Has anyone ever gotten more than 2 pieces of rare salvage and a few recipes on a regular PvE mission?
I know I have, but that level of reward isn't possible now in AE, not matter how large the map or how many enemies you fight.
So much for risk vs. reward in AE.
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It's like player created arcs aren't worth as much as the games reg arcs and I find allot to be better then the game's arcs.
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I am too easily bored to do any repetitious activity that comes even halfway close to generating 1500 tickets in a single mission. Not going to alter my interest even slightly.
Loss of the chicken tug animation, though, is a blow that strikes straight to the heart.
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I feel your pain. **po's out fo'ty**
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I'm actually starting to wish (again) AE arcs carried no rewards what-so-ever but instead would let us grant the player who's playing through them with unique temp-powers and special costume pieces (that we could craft based on AE-tickets) instead.
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
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It's been said, it should be said again: Getting to the ticket cap is a very rare thing indeed.
They are not cutting tickets across the board. For most characters on most maps on most missions you would not even come close to the cap anyway. You can still level and gain rewards at the same speed you would if you were running typical developer content.
The ONLY thing this affects are min/maxed farm style rewards gathering. Go play some MA missions -- NORMAL ones, not just all-boss clears designed exclusively for ticket maxing, thank you -- and if you start hitting the cap regularly, THEN I will back your play for removing/raising the cap. Until then, this won't affect much of anything.
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Except, maybe, people who aren't using the MA for "fat lutz".
And, frankly, I was amused by the over the top vitriol by the OP, not by the ticket nerf. The nerf is just "eh" to me.
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Its not as much the fat lewtz that worries me.
Its that if you nerf MA rewards too much then you sorta compromise the ability to use MA as an alternative to regular content. and I dunno about you but I never wanna do radio missions again.
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Here's the next farm. Set a click to end. Earn 750 tickets fast, forget rest of mission, click to get bonus. Re enter. Repeat.
This limit does.... NOTHING... to reduce ticket farming.
I could care less because I need purples and tickets just aren't paying off like they did in the first week anyways. Back to ITFs, Castle Walls, and PI shows.
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It's been said, it should be said again: Getting to the ticket cap is a very rare thing indeed.
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In your experience playing the way you play; that doesn't make it applicable to everyone else.
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It's been said, it should be said again: Getting to the ticket cap is a very rare thing indeed.
They are not cutting tickets across the board. For most characters on most maps on most missions you would not even come close to the cap anyway. You can still level and gain rewards at the same speed you would if you were running typical developer content.
The ONLY thing this affects are min/maxed farm style rewards gathering. Go play some MA missions -- NORMAL ones, not just all-boss clears designed exclusively for ticket maxing, thank you -- and if you start hitting the cap regularly, THEN I will back your play for removing/raising the cap. Until then, this won't affect much of anything.
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Again, some peeps have great toons that can do very hard mish's and there are NO salvage drops and recipe drops to compensate for the loss of tickets. I made very hard mish's for toons like mine with minions, Lt's and bosses so they are not farm mish's or boss only mish's. Yet I feel I'm being penalized.
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Just noticed they lowered the merits for recipes price from merit vendors. hmmmmmmm........ stuff cost less merits now. hmmmmmm
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Which?
All?
The patch notes say nothing of this.
Care to provide some samples?
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You get the same xp/inf for PvE mobs as you do for MA mobs, the difference you are seeing is the patrol xp. You get no patrol xp in MA.
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Interesting since I had 0 patrol XP when this was occurring and it wasn't on just one occasion it was on every occasion.
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Which?
All?
The patch notes say nothing of this.
Care to provide some samples?
Miracle(u), Decimation D/E and RegenTiss(u)...
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example: lotg +recharge is not 240 anymore, it's 200 merits.
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Well they've gone and done it now. Today's patch put a limit on the number of tickets you can get as per which map your are playing. That's right, we now have a ticket limit per mish. A small [censored] ticket limit. So all your challenging mish's are worthless and rewards dismal!! NO SALVAGE DROPS, NO RECIPE DROPS, NO KILLS COUNTING FOR BADGES and now TINY TICKET Rewards. Why even do AE mish's now??? Back to being poor [censored] bastards not being able to aford io's unles you buy inf from outside sources. Without tickets it's even harder to get good recipes and we are AGAIN forced to pay [censored] prices for good recipe's on the black market. I have a tough arc and damnit I want my damn ticket rewards back!!! Always punishing people for making good toons cause it "might" be exploited. Tired of the [censored] farmers killing the game. Why the hell make exceptional toons now if you can't benifit... Not everyone farms damnit!!!!!!
You devs are butt wipes man~!!!!!! You have put such a small ticket limit on mish's now I hate you all of you.
kk I will calm. down.. *taking deep breathes..*
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Cry me a river. Stop playing AE for rewards. Play AE because its fun, living, changing, evolving content. A breath of fresh air in a world of persistent world grinding. AE is an ideal concept that has been defiled by the materialistic exp gorging and mad ticket grabbing frenzies of people like you.
If you hadn't tried to break the system for your own selfish purposes, people would still be getting normal rewards for my stories, instead of the deflated rewards that they get now. Luckily, the stories are so entertaining, that nobody else seems to notice the difference.
Please evolve.
Your melancholy Messiah, Captain-Cosmic, Virtue
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I agree... Devs, please remove all xp from MA. Make it so only the pure and worthy use it!
(I would add virgin, but there are too many of them running around the game as it is)
remember the day when if you killed a minion you got x-xp y-inf andz-drops? if you killed 200 minions you got 200*x 200*y and 200*z. Too bad that had to change.
Lots of 50's yada yada. still finding fun things to do.
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Just noticed they lowered the merits for recipes price from merit vendors. hmmmmmmm........ stuff cost less merits now. hmmmmmm
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Which?
All?
The patch notes say nothing of this.
Care to provide some samples?
Miracle(u), Decimation D/E and RegenTiss(u)...
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example: lotg +recharge is not 240 anymore, it's 200 merits.
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Um..... its been 200 merits for several months now. I know, as I've purchased 4 that way..
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It's like player created arcs aren't worth as much as the games reg arcs ...
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Except they are. All you have to do is reset maps more often than you used to have to, and it's only necessary in extreme cases. You still get the flexibility of tickets and the reward rates from high-boss-density combat. The one thing AE arcs don't give you at all is chances at purples, and that was true from day one.
And for a while things were cold,
They were scared down in their holes
The forest that once was green
Was colored black by those killing machines
Maybe if the devs put in purps since they are trying to make AE similar to reg content now. It just the motivation i need to lub AE again with all this nerfage going on.
As other people pointed out, this does nothing to stop farming. All anyone will do now is figure out what they have to do to get close to 1500 tickets, and just do that and reset over and over. Glowy clicks will probably be farm completion of choice now too.
Yep, Champion.
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