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Discussion: Issue 12's Improved Character Creator

5th_Player

By 5th_Player,
Posted on: 2008-03-31 10:19 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion

 

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What does the Real Numbers windoid show for minions and pets, out of curiousity?

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It shows what powers they have. If you click one of the powers in their list, it expands to show all of its detailed information too.

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Now that is awesome!

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What does the Real Numbers windoid show for minions and pets, out of curiousity?

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It shows what powers they have. If you click one of the powers in their list, it expands to show all of its detailed information too.

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Folllow up question.

Does it show in Tier 1 Thugs that even though defense debuffs are able to be slotted they have no defense debuffs in their attacks?

Poison Pill

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I thought they had a burst type attack the did a bit of -def but i could be wrong, is that incorrect?

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It's the Mercs that have -Def in the slug burst.

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This is just a thought I had, so I'll throw it out there. Not saying what's being done isn't cool (It's very convenient, both the streamlined costume selection and showing stats during character creation), but here it is: Is there a point where the information we're getting is too much? I kind of feel like we're venturing into finding out who the "man behnd the curtain" is, so to speak. Does knowing every little piddling detail about everything really make such a big difference in the average player's enjoyment of the game? I know there's number crunchers, and they're gonna love it (probably...some might not like having their stat-geek status lowered when anyone can get their own info), but doesn't making this game more mechanical or mathematical by showing numbers all the time kind of demystify things too much?

I know, I might be overreacting a bit. But think of it this way: People love hotdogs. If you kept reminding them exactly what ingredients are in it, and how its made, would there still be as many who love them? Would they love them as much? Too much information can ruin a good thing.

Anyway, the interfaces look cool. Can't wait to give them a test drive. Thanks for the info.

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There is some irony in your question you may not realize. The DEVs (statesman) from the beginning were absolutely adament about NOT including "real numbers". Their position was that they didn't want to turn this into a "numbers game" like so many others. They thought it would detract from the fun of the game, I'm not sure I understand that logic. The community has been howling for real numbers all along. Now we have the numbers, woohoo, I'm sooo happy . Just a little bit of history that makes your question strangely ironic.

 

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Can you PLEASE PLEASE allow us to create our OWN SETS and SAVE THEM FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

There have been many times I've created 2 looks and wanted to compare them or save them for another toon.





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Still no costume load/save functionality? :/

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It wasn't advertised and the Devs don't generally respond to questions about what players think is missing when they announce what's new.

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I'm not asking, I'm whining.

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Both the streamlined costume creation and the detailed power info look like an outstanding addition to the UI. Kudos, to Pohsyb and whoever else may have been involved in getting this into I12! Can't wait to try it out!

 

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I didn't even recognize some of those "themes...?" "Lowlander?" "Enforcer Light?"

i think this is a great feature! I've often wanted a generic look and then tried to deviate from it slightly. Love it!

Beta me!

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IIRC, Enforcer is one of several sets that have a "tights" version and a "armored" version - Light would probably be the tights version without the plates.

Sinister and Justice do this too.

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What does the Real Numbers windoid show for minions and pets, out of curiousity?

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It shows what powers they have. If you click one of the powers in their list, it expands to show all of its detailed information too.

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Speaking of Windoids - any NEW ones, and if so, do they have names?

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Looks good!

 

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Still no costume load/save functionality? :/

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It wasn't advertised and the Devs don't generally respond to questions about what players think is missing when they announce what's new.

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I'm not asking, I'm whining.

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Then I most sincerely apologize that my response lacked due vitriol. Good day, sir or ma'am.

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With the Power Information...will there be a way to view this info outside of character creation or levelling up? Possibly more detailed information on your Enhancement Screen or with the hover over on your Powers tab?

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The detailed power info will be available in the power selection screen, level up screen, respec screens, enhancement screen, and as another tab on the info window for powers.

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Yummy!

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Awesome work pohsyb. To anyone that may have assisted you with this, please pass along my thanks.

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Is there a point where the information we're getting is too much? I kind of feel like we're venturing into finding out who the "man behnd the curtain" is, so to speak. Does knowing every little piddling detail about everything really make such a big difference in the average player's enjoyment of the game?

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WereWolf? Well I know Lighthouse just said he doesn't know of any other costume options being added, but at least I can hope for a tail.

Of course, there is the back of my brain screaming at me right now, given the date, that there is an April Fool's in here somewhere.

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All this is great, just want to toss out my short list of things to make the Creator darn-near perfect:

1. A "Swap Color" button to switch the current primary and secondary color

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I couldn't agree more, in fact I read this entire thread just to make sure this suggestion was here. Given the inconsistency with the way primary & secondary colours are used on the various costume parts, it's very surprising that they still haven't added a simple button to swap the two!

Maybe everyone else likes manually swapping the colours as they try out various parts?

 

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With the slider to see how it scales with level? ZOMG! The coolness... it's... it's too much! I think I need to have a little lie down for awhile.....

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You're welcome.

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I just have one question for you Arcanaville, why the heck aren't you working for NCSoft yet? I'm getting the impression that you had a hand in helping pohsyb with all these Real Number implemations.

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She has said before job =/= fun.

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Pleeeeeeeeease let us change body type at the tailor, pleasssssse.

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I'd settle for a height slider.

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QFT

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What I really really want is a more accurate number represented system than the sliders. They are extremely imprecise and adjusting them by eye feels very sloppy to me.

I also have a major problem with the Backgrounds of the character creation screen, I would prefer a larger opaque lighter colored background so I can see darker details.

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It would be nice if we could get an option to choose the background color(s) in there.

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It should even keep the PvP people happy for a couple of minutes.

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We already had to figure out the numbers a long time ago.

 

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Are we getting the ability to manipulate the height slider after creation as well?

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What does the Real Numbers windoid show for minions and pets, out of curiousity?

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It shows what powers they have. If you click one of the powers in their list, it expands to show all of its detailed information too.

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Real numbers are nice guys but rememeber if you cant play the toon and just get it PL'ed dont expect those nums to worth anything

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