The 2008 State of the Game


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Moon Zone?

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Ooh, some off world zones, or some such, would be nice. Though I'm thinking Ourboros (sp?) kind of fits that niche...

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Is Golden_Ace, tring to peddle off his Moon Zone again? LOL

Seriously, I love the Moon Zone Idea, I think it would be so much fun. You can put me down as vote for the Moon Zone.

But what have the devs said about it. I have heard that they will not do it, but then again this was before the move.


 

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Moon Zone?

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Ooh, some off world zones, or some such, would be nice. Though I'm thinking Ourboros (sp?) kind of fits that niche...

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Is Golden_Ace, tring to peddle off his Moon Zone again? LOL

Seriously, I love the Moon Zone Idea, I think it would be so much fun. You can put me down as vote for the Moon Zone.

But what have the devs said about it. I have heard that they will not do it, but then again this was before the move.

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When was it said that the Dev's will noty do the Moon zone? I thought that zone won "The Zone Poll"- therefore it was gonna be done.....but then yeah this was done before "The Move"


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But what have the devs said about it. I have heard that they will not do it, but then again this was before the move.

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Several weeks ago I started a thread asking if, in fact, the Moon Zone was dead in the water.

Nobody could give a definitive answer one way or the other.

But perhaps we should get back to more whining, whining, whining about bases?


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Arcanaville has hinted at the Moon or Rikti Home World zone(s) coming soon. It's in the "Issue 12 with a whisper..." thread.

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Moonbase = generic tech maps with new flavor text. :P

I'd rather see something that would force the devs to actually work in new tech, like an underwater zone where you are actually in the water, not just in a "secret underwater base" that's a generic tech map.

That aside, I'm confident that 2008 will bring us at least one nutty new high concept zone. Whether it's a frozen world, something under the sea or a romp through a primeval world filled with dinosaurs, who knows? But I'm pretty sure we'll see something that isn't just another retooled old zone or another same old/same old variation on an existing area.

In fact, if I could pick one thing I'd like to see on a 2008 wish list, it would be more variety in the game's environments (both outdoors and in), linked to more varied missions.


 

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Moonbase = generic tech maps with new flavor text. :P



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I don't know if I agree, if time was put into it, it could be so much more, reduced gravity, so everyone has super jump basically, new villian types, moon monsters made of cheese. I think it could be fun

I also like your dinosaur zone idea, it will never happen, but. Would add a fun aspect to the game. You could form hunting parties. And after you kill a dino, you have the option of stuffing it and putting it in your base


 

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Moonbase = generic tech maps with new flavor text. :P

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Also, zone-wide buff grants inertial reduction, falls occur at 1/6th the speed, fighting in areas of vacuum has a high -end debuff, and knockback is increased by a factor of ten.


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Gil, at no time did the Dev's say there would be no Moon Zone.

They did say there would be no moon zone for certain issues (Issue 11 comes to mind).

I have hopes for Issue 12 or 13.


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Moonbase = generic tech maps with new flavor text. :P

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Also, zone-wide buff grants inertial reduction, falls occur at 1/6th the speed, fighting in areas of vacuum has a high -end debuff, and knockback is increased by a factor of ten.

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that would make for a very interestng pvp zone if for nothing else than to give flyers a chance and change up tactics. suddenly -fly isnt nearly as devestating when you don't take that much damage from falling. I normally hate pvp but I would give a moon zone pvp a chance.
I could even see the whole moon zone as a contested zone where heroes and villains have set up bases on the moon so that there are seperate pve areas and a contested zone that would be pvp.


 

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Gil, at no time did the Dev's say there would be no Moon Zone.

They did say there would be no moon zone for certain issues (Issue 11 comes to mind).

I have hopes for Issue 12 or 13.

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Yeah, I wasn't sure if the Devs had said anything, I remebered them saying something about a no, but wasn't sure what it was about. And actually it was meant to be more of a question, but i worded it wrong. I really hope they put it in. I would love going to the moon.


 

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that would make for a very interestng pvp zone if for nothing else than to give flyers a chance and change up tactics. suddenly -fly isnt nearly as devestating when you don't take that much damage from falling. I normally hate pvp but I would give a moon zone pvp a chance.
I could even see the whole moon zone as a contested zone where heroes and villains have set up bases on the moon so that there are seperate pve areas and a contested zone that would be pvp.

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I very much doubt we'll see any more PvP zones. At least, not for a year or two. Co-op zones are much more likely. Given that the "Coming Storm" alien invasion is looming... and we all must band together to save the Earth.... well, you see what I mean.


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Oh no! Double XP weekend in February. I bet you guys anything I will be delivering my baby then!

I have missed every Double XP weekend! I think this game is out to get me!


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Arcanaville has hinted at the Moon or Rikti Home World zone(s) coming soon. It's in the "Issue 12 with a whisper..." thread.

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Apparently it wasn't that thread. I just looked through the entire thread, ugh. You did make a Star Trek reference in a recent thread. Several people thought you meant having a holodeck in bases, but that seems fairly pointless. I thought you were hinting at some sort of space zone. I know you couldn't say anything even if you did know, though.


 

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Cooooooool... anyhow, can we get Dual Pistols now, please?

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OH, yes! Pah-leeeeeease! I have dreamed of this from day 1.

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I would prefer a Single Pistol (for Heroes), but any sort of Blaster Pistol Power Set is something I have been waiting for since the Beta!

I would also like to see an option for Energyand Electrical Blasters to have an Energy Pistol/Blaster/Phaser (actually a choice of of them like the Assualt Riffle, etc Power Sets). But that would be a much lower priority than for a PISTOL power set!

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Ok, a pistol in general, ANY pistol, would be awesome. Then I suppose we can beg for dual pistols. But since they now have the dual system, it's just a matter of adding the skin, coding and animation for pistols, and it'd be easier setting it up for single or dual, simultaneously.

I have a couple of ol'west and steampunk toons that are just waiting for this addition.

Seriously, who doesn't want to be a dual six-shooter, blasting machine of awesome?


 

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Gil, at no time did the Dev's say there would be no Moon Zone.

They did say there would be no moon zone for certain issues (Issue 11 comes to mind).

I have hopes for Issue 12 or 13.

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Yeah, I wasn't sure if the Devs had said anything, I remebered them saying something about a no, but wasn't sure what it was about. And actually it was meant to be more of a question, but i worded it wrong. I really hope they put it in. I would love going to the moon.

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Could be!
Who knows?
There's a patch due any day;
I will know right away,
Soon as it shows.
It may come cannonballing down through the sky,
Gleam in its eye,
Bright as a rose!

Who knows?
It's only just out of reach,
Down the block, on a beach,
Under atlas.
I got a feeling there's a miracle due,
Gonna come true,
Coming at last!

Could it be? Yes, it could.
Something's coming, something good,
If I can wait!
Something's coming, I don't know what it is,
But it is
Gonna be great!

GAH West Side Story GET OUT OF MY HEAD!


 

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Characters getting stuck or shelved/dropped? You must mean levels 35-42 or there abouts. Hard to find a team mostly and solo XP is so low it takes about a week of solid play to gain a level that could have been had in one day on a team with the same effort.

Double XP, my favorite, please let us know as early as possible as many players will want to set aside time to be rooted to their computers.


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Gil, at no time did the Dev's say there would be no Moon Zone.

They did say there would be no moon zone for certain issues (Issue 11 comes to mind).

I have hopes for Issue 12 or 13.

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Yeah, I wasn't sure if the Devs had said anything, I remebered them saying something about a no, but wasn't sure what it was about. And actually it was meant to be more of a question, but i worded it wrong. I really hope they put it in. I would love going to the moon.

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Could be!
Who knows?
There's a patch due any day;
I will know right away,
Soon as it shows.
It may come cannonballing down through the sky,
Gleam in its eye,
Bright as a rose!

Who knows?
It's only just out of reach,
Down the block, on a beach,
Under atlas.
I got a feeling there's a miracle due,
Gonna come true,
Coming at last!

Could it be? Yes, it could.
Something's coming, something good,
If I can wait!
Something's coming, I don't know what it is,
But it is
Gonna be great!

GAH West Side Story GET OUT OF MY HEAD!

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Thanks for the poem, it was pleasant


 

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Oh really? Was The Burning Crusade given free to WoW players? Waht about Wrath of the Lich King? Will it be free?


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Now Bill...when did you take up playing WoW?


 

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i guess this is just a personal peeve, but i wish youd stop calling game updates 'free expansions'.

every pay to play online game updates and expands there game as it progresses through patches, these are not some unique 'free expansions' we are getting, they are simply patches and updates to the game just like every other paid mmo you can subscribe to.

i guess its just semantics, but calling them 'free expansions' makes me feel like you think you are talking to idiots who dont realize every single paid mmo has the exact same thing, but they just call them patches.

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Oh really? Was The Burning Crusade given free to WoW players? Waht about Wrath of the Lich King? Will it be free?

What about Guild Wars? No subscription cost, but all of its expansions have been by cost.

Don't get me wrong, I consider my monthly fee part of the deal in getting me the new issues for this game, and if those issues stopped, so would my monthly sub.

But we aren't being charged on top of our monthly fee for game updates.

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Yes we were. City of Villains content wasn't free.

WoW has offered free dungeons and new content for years: Maraudon, Dire Maul, outdoor raid bosses, Gurubashi arena, Battlegrounds, Blackwing Lair, Zul Gurub, Arathi Basin, Ahn'Qiraj, Naxxramas, among tons of other stuff.


 

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Smoothing the XP Curve
One thing that we constantly examine is the rate of advancement in the game. In a future version, we intend to smooth out the leveling curve by changing how much experience is given out for defeating opponents. The intent is to smooth out the “bumps” where players typically get stuck leveling up their characters. Keep an eye on coming patch notes for specifics.

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Awesome.

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Real Numbers
As a general quality of life improvement we will be adding new functionality in a coming version of the game to display the “real” numbers behind your characters and their powers. This includes a user configurable display of important characteristics such as movement rate, regeneration rate, resistances and many more! Additionally, you will be able to see how those statistics are affected in real time by buffs and/or debuffs affecting your character.

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And more awesome.

I'm not sure how much I'll approve of the City Vault, but I'm curious to see how it turns out. I wasn't sure if I would like Inventions either, but they turned out more than okay.

Sounds like a banner year is on the way. Much thanks.


 

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There are alot of kewl Ideas here that I hope at least some of them come in *cough*dualpistols*cough* I've been playing CoH on and off since launch and the one thing I have always wanted to see in the game are Vehicles (Other that Raptor packs and the Like) Motorcycles and maybe small jets.

Maybe an Engineering Powerset that gives you a Motorcycle for Movement, Defensive Power Armor, Maybe Nanites that give a temporary bonus (DMG, Health, ACC, Regen, Might be kinda fun if it was random), Or a limited duration pet that runs around and heals group members. There is aloth that you can do with this and it has the potential to really give a cool feel to a character.


 

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i guess its just semantics, but calling them 'free expansions' makes me feel like you think you are talking to idiots who dont realize every single paid mmo has the exact same thing, but they just call them patches.


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I am not so sure I agree.
let's look at what we get in these 'free expansions'...
New archetypes (classes) (kheldian)
new powersets (archery, sonic, willpower, cut in halfs like mace/axe and katana/bs)
New character graphics
expanded levels with appropriate zones
new zones (hazard zones, ouroboros,RWZ, PVP, croatoa)
new enemy groups and mission types
an entirely new style of playing the game (radio missions)
expanded content for seasoned players and newbies alike
an entirely new system for enhancements (IO)

and what is the ONLY thing that they have ever charged players extra to purchase in addition to the game? CoV... and it's an entirely new game, with different setups, zones, etc.

Let's look at some popular competing games in the past.
Everquest (how many paid expansions finally came out again...?)
ultima online.
DAoC
final fantasy 11
star wars online
Anarchy Online
Every single one of them has charged to bring out content of the type that CoX does all the time.

okay, let's look at the biggest current competitor: WoW
Only one expansion has come out, and it didn't add nearly the flavor that even something like... say... the IO system added to the game. and I clearly remember shelling out an ADDITIONAL 40 bucks to go to the outlands above and beyond the 15 bucks a month subscription fee.

I think that they are perfectly and completely justified in calling these incredible boosts to content 'free expansions'. Compared to the prices competing games charge for this stuff, these really are free... after all, you are going to shell out 15 bucks a month to play the game anyway, all this added content is just a bonus.

I guess I am one of those idiots who thinks every other MMO DOESN'T produce this kind of content regularly, and charges extra for people who want to explore new zones or go past the level 40 cap.


 

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Anyway, since they are clearly moving away from jack's vision of a 'game without tankmages', it makes one wonder if Kheldians may finally be made useful?

I mean 'jack of all trades, master of none' is a great idea, but all that silver bullet kryptonite stuff, while interesting from a story point of view, has always been way, way too much of an achilles heel for the 'epic archetype'. I wish that Kheldians were a reward instead of a punishment.


 

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Anyway, since they are clearly moving away from jack's vision of a 'game without tankmages', it makes one wonder if Kheldians may finally be made useful?

I mean 'jack of all trades, master of none' is a great idea, but all that silver bullet kryptonite stuff, while interesting from a story point of view, has always been way, way too much of an achilles heel for the 'epic archetype'. I wish that Kheldians were a reward instead of a punishment.

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Killing a void and or Q isn't that hard. In fact it only gets easier. While I won't complain if they remove them, I am however not in agreement they need to be, they are fine. Kheldians have more than enough toys to deal with their enemies. The rest is up to the player...

LDZ


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