Thread Title: PvP SG Ladder Entries
By
BattleWraith,
Posted on: 2007-07-13 16:27 in Everything about PvP
If this "official" match happened on either Sunday or Wednesday (not yesterday Sunday), then those were round-robin days, thus not official. Did all that arena chat happen on Sunday or Wednesday? If so, end of discussion.
I havent bothered to read the 121 posts since I left on Friday, but my assumption from a quick skim and the large amount of email in my box people are very interested in the Esk vs JFaL match. Esk had agreed to fight JFaL and then logged off. It was at my discretion that I counted the match. JFaL was prepared to fight them and Esk had agreed to it, then they logged off, this is a forfeit and the match goes to JFaL.
Anyone who complains about a rule that to break ties MoV is at some point used I apoligize. However, when that is the third method used for ranking and is a widely used and accepted way to decide tie breakers I fail to see the problem.. If it is good enough for World Cup Soccer I think it will suffice for an MMoRPG.
No matter how you look at this, it does not matter. The beginning of a ladder is only to make sure the more skilled groups are at the top and the groups who need a little more practice are closer to the bottom so the scores of the initial ranking dont happen again and groups do not grow discouraged. Even so, I think we can all agree that if groups do grow discouraged by defeat then competition is not for them, it is the nature of PvP. If there is a problem amongst the top three groups the solution is simple, challenge those above you and use superior skill to take that rung from them. The ladder is set, do what you will with challenges.
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ok...........although I'm puzzled why you chose to disregard the rules you set yourself for the round robin, its all academic at this point.
Looking forward to our match with JAL. 
why do i get the feeling that this thread wouldn't have been like this if it weren't for Groebuck.
why do people let him stir [censored] up like this? who is he and why does he care what goes on here?
i get the feeling he just likes being able to stir up drama and he is pretty good at it. I bet he has really enjoyed the [censored] storm he stirred up here.
so...we should thank him?
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Only thing I really wanna comment on anymore is that JAL having members in the PvPEC had nothing with them getting top rank.
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ok...........although I'm puzzled why you chose to disregard the rules you set yourself for the round robin, its all academic at this point.
Looking forward to our match with JAL.
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You've obviously never had a discussion (screaming match) with TGIA.
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Don't worry about Psypunk. He's just giddy that he has 8 people in the arena to make him look good. Let him be happy while it lasts.
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Too bad you don't have 8 people to make you look good.
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Listen, if you still think this is actually Chinook posting you're as dumb as you come off.
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No, the next step would be quitting my SG after Vengeance stacking is no longer allowed and we can't compete and joining FOL.
Good try though. 
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Hey nice job . Assuming we all broke up because we couldn't stack vengeance.
the ladder seems to be going well
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ok...........although I'm puzzled why you chose to disregard the rules you set yourself for the round robin, its all academic at this point.
Looking forward to our match with JAL.
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I bet he has really enjoyed the [censored] storm he stirred up here.
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Pfft, it was clearly my [censored] storm.
Also, there were people who didn't enjoy this? Forum PvP ftw. This thread was golden.
what I miss?
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I bet he has really enjoyed the [censored] storm he stirred up here.
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Pfft, it was clearly my [censored] storm.
Also, there were people who didn't enjoy this? Forum PvP ftw. This thread was golden.
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Don't talk about it like it's done. It can live on!
Psy, you have a bunch of SG leaders that obviously disagree with you. Regardless of what *you're* sure of, try treating your beloved PvP Community with a little respect - talk to them instead of insulting them. I'm starting to think you're only happy with the community when you get to act like you're in charge.
And as far as trash-talking NDX, nice try. You know better than anyone that we did no-vengeance matches against you whenever you asked... the trick for us was actually convincing you guys to do more than one match before you got disheartened.
I remember when crypunk got all emo because with vengeance we were able to shut them out. Then we did no vengeance matches and still ran them into the ground, but they actually killed us.
GG crypunk cry moar pls.
just a clarification....even thought they did get a few kills, we still won by a huge margin. So anyone who thinks they killed us means they won, they didn't.
You are confusing. Happy Birthday.
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I bet he has really enjoyed the [censored] storm he stirred up here.
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Pfft, it was clearly my [censored] storm.
Also, there were people who didn't enjoy this? Forum PvP ftw. This thread was golden.
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So full of win
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I bet he has really enjoyed the [censored] storm he stirred up here.
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Pfft, it was clearly my [censored] storm.
Also, there were people who didn't enjoy this? Forum PvP ftw. This thread was golden.
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So full of win
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If you can't pvp while at work, forum pvp is just as fun.
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Anyone who complains about a rule that to break ties MoV is at some point used I apoligize. However, when that is the third method used for ranking and is a widely used and accepted way to decide tie breakers I fail to see the problem.. If it is good enough for World Cup Soccer I think it will suffice for an MMoRPG.
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how about using the amount of deaths your team got? it still has the same bearing on score, but it doesnt give you a incentive to run up the score against some new sg and make them feel bad.
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I bet he has really enjoyed the [censored] storm he stirred up here.
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Pfft, it was clearly my [censored] storm.
Also, there were people who didn't enjoy this? Forum PvP ftw. This thread was golden.
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So full of win
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If you can't pvp while at work, forum pvp is just as fun.
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Anyone who complains about a rule that to break ties MoV is at some point used I apoligize. However, when that is the third method used for ranking and is a widely used and accepted way to decide tie breakers I fail to see the problem.. If it is good enough for World Cup Soccer I think it will suffice for an MMoRPG.
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how about using the amount of deaths your team got? it still has the same bearing on score, but it doesnt give you a incentive to run up the score against some new sg and make them feel bad.
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The results would be the exact same as they are now by that means, and I also disagree that it wouldnt give an incentive to run up the score. A dead blaster is one who cannot kill. The best defensive is sometimes an aggressive offense.
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No, the next step would be quitting my SG after Vengeance stacking is no longer allowed and we can't compete and joining FOL.
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If I were to make a list of people qualified to talk [censored] about NDX, you would be at the very bottom. You know damn well that we did all kinds of no-veng matches with you before, and after, our official with OS and you never even came *close* to beating us...I don't think you ever got kills in the double digits.
If I remember correctly, after everyone agreed to stop using veng, Velocity were to only ones to beat us with any consistency.
No, wait...I do remember losing a match or two to JAL right before we finally called it quits. But that wasn't really to JAL, it was to those 8 guys who came aboard to replace JAL...you know, that new team that *you* don't play for.
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No, the next step would be quitting my SG after Vengeance stacking is no longer allowed and we can't compete and joining FOL.
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If I were to make a list of people qualified to talk [censored] about NDX, you would be at the very bottom. You know damn well that we did all kinds of no-veng matches with you before, and after, our official with OS and you never even came *close* to beating us...I don't think you ever got kills in the double digits.
If I remember correctly, after everyone agreed to stop using veng, Velocity were to only ones to beat us with any consistency.
No, wait...I do remember losing a match or two to JAL right before we finally called it quits. But that wasn't really to JAL, it was to those 8 guys who came aboard to replace JAL...you know, that new team that *you* don't play for.
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Wrong, I played in a few of those matches where you guys got beat...it is also not the point, as NDX was one of my favorite SG's out there and I pray they can get their team up and running again.
People like to throw insults, I returned the favor. As far as "me playing or not playing", it's not an issue for me. I'm the leader of the SG, I arranged the team and group exactly how I want it, so how could I possibly be offended by any of these comments? lol We win as a team and we lose as a team...and as has been shown countless times, we still win even with my poor and miserable presence in matches.
My job is SG leader, first and foremost...I have assembled a winning team and I'm comfortable in my role. That may seem hard to believe for most of you, but when you have to work fulltime, go to graduate school, and feed two infant babies every couple hours/change diapers/etc., then maybe you'll understand. Until then, I could care less....I'm happy giving people who can give 110% to the team a chance to shine...I've had my fair share of matches and my presence in a match has made no difference whatsoever in the final outcome.
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I would encourage all participating groups to please re-read the rules that were drafted at an open meeting of interested groups.
If ladder rules need to be re-drafted, then that is a possibility, but any matches that have taken or will take place (untill the event of a rule change) operate underneath the original rules.
Further discussion is futile, as all groups had equal opportunity to read said rules and are subject to their enforcement and any related consequences.
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To find where people will begin on the PvP Ladder we will be starting a round robin, this is where every group who has signed up will face one another. Initial ranking will be based first on win to loss ratio. Ties will be decided by who has beat whom. In an instance where that does not rectify the problem it will be based on margin of victory, and then on over all victories if mov still does not satisfy the problem. This is only for the initial ranking. We will begin this process on Sunday the 29th of July at 9 PM EST. It is requested that all groups who have signed up for the ladder be there. We will go until midnight. It is expected that SG Captains will set up their own matches. For initial ranking it is only 1 match, not 2 out of 3 so we can save time and get this ladder up as soon as possible. We will then meet up again on Wednesday August 1st at 9 PM EST going til midnight once again. It is expected that SG Captains will simply ask for matches over arena chat. Make sure you face every SG in the ladder on these two nights. If you do not face a group it will be counted as a loss for both groups. Also, all matches are to be reported to me. Please send the results of every match you have to me on the blue boards with score and who won. Both SG Captains must report these results to me so I can check for consistency. Any group who purposefully reports inaccurate results will be automatically placed at the bottom of the ladder.
The Groups who have signed up thus far with a roster are as follows:
Hell Raisers
JAL
Velocity
SW
Freaks
Old School
The End
Envy The Shadow King
Whirligig
As stated above, you have two nights for a total of 6 hours to face each one of these groups one time, make sure you do so
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Those were the rules. i highlighted the important parts.