Silly N00b Stories
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Abysmalyxia,
Posted on: 2006-11-10 13:09 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
In the end , when you die , its your own mistake . I mostly only play with PuGs and when i see that things arent going well , i leave. And i will certainly withdraw in a middle of a fight if things are turning bad. Some players tends to just stay there , hoping for a miracle to happen and they die . Then they complain. Only you can control your own character , thus you are responsible of his wellfare before everyone else. But of course, blaming the N00b is easyer than blaming oneself i believe 
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In the end , when you die , its your own mistake . I mostly only play with PuGs and when i see that things arent going well , i leave. And i will certainly withdraw in a middle of a fight if things are turning bad. Some players tends to just stay there , hoping for a miracle to happen and they die . Then they complain. Only you can control your own character , thus you are responsible of his wellfare before everyone else. But of course, blaming the N00b is easyer than blaming oneself i believe
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Sure you can say that but you can also put it this way.
If the person in question(the noob) had not set in to motion the events that caused the team wipe you wouldn't HAVE to run away. Some players would rather go down fighting than run away and leave anyone to die.
I'm like that, I'd rather die once for each member of my team than have them die but thats just how I play though.
All in all theres going to be folks that agree with the OP and those that will defend the "noob" and those that will question the ability of the OP and the team he was with.
Oh and whats up with this?
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Who's more newbish? The newb, or the person who follows him?
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Looking at that made my head hurt.
I was invited to a PUG the other day. Most of the members were of the same SG, lvl 50's or so. Mobs were at 52 and Praetorian.
I knew we were in trouble from the start when the tank started herding 1 spawn to a second group. As soon as he got the second groups agro half of the first group would stop, usually with the main body of the PUG inbetween.
During this time I had a RL friend over and I was explaining what he (the tank) was doing wrong. As he did it over and over many deaths ensued.
Disgusted I got up to get something to drink and when I came back my friend had proceeded to tell him he was a bad teammate and why. Ended up being the only time I was ever kicked from a group, AFTER they used me for my debuffs on the AV. I sent the leader a short, little message; ,l,,
So you see, nOObs come at ALL levels. 
36 level 50's in various servers...haven't been here in a while. It's now over 50
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Critiques of team tactics aside, I'll see your 'pull with a fireball' story and raise you a 'I'll use rain of fire to pull.'
Your move.
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Rain of Fire one mob, Fire Ball a second, Breath of Fire a third, all at once. Game, set, match!
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1st Stormie: You know what this room needs?
2nd Stormie: More aggro?
1st Stormie: More aggro.
Both Stormies: PULL WITH TORNADO!!!
Gawd, I wish I could find the post that this was an excerpt from. 
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My god i had that experience one.... it was funny as hell when both of our earth/sotmr controllers decided to take away the control.
Note: with 2 earth/storm controllers, you can handle anything, assuming they don't use tornado...
Whining about everything since 2006.
Ammo switching for Dual Pistols was my idea:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=135484
pulling with an AoE is useful if your team already knows they can handle the entire spawn and they're trying to pull the whole group away from a second, nearby group. But if your intent was to pull 1 or 2 mobs away because that single spawn alone is too much for your team, then yeah, pretty dumb move.
Incidentally, I still find that the majority of players aren't aware of the fact that single target ranged attacks that either knockback or DoT as a secondary effect tend to draw aggro and make bad pull powers. I teamed with several eng and fire blasters at high levels that said after I told them about this, "holy crap, I always wondered why my pulls hardly ever work well"
Odd, my fire blasters have never had problems pulling singles...
"A good Defender is the battle hardened Corpsman who will kill a Nazi with a tongue depressor while putting a splint on your leg, then hand you a fresh clip of ammo." ~Jock_Thompson
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I remember well all the newbies when City of Heroes first came out. I really loved that about the game. You could tell it was opening up the MMO genere to a whole slew of people who had never played one before.
I'd get into a pick up team and be, "Ok, hang here I'll pull the mobs to us." only to be met with "umm what's a mob?" or "you're pulling what??" or even "dude, stop pulling your finger" Tankers that scrapped, Defenders who played like Blasters, Scrappers who wanted to be Tanks, etc. etc. I made some great friends and while sometimes frustrating, that newbieness was a lot of times a refreshing change
I just wanted to chime in that if you take the time to stop and politely help someone understand the tactics more, or are open to people who want to tell you about their own tactics, a lot of times you can make a good addition to your friends list. In short, ya gotta lub da newbs!
Of course, some jerk who plays like a fool and gets everyone killed and won't listen to anyone is certainly a pain. I usually play a bit more conservatively with a new pick up group to test the waters before I open myself up for the rollercoaster ride to Debt City
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I remember well all the newbies when City of Heroes first came out. I really loved that about the game. You could tell it was opening up the MMO genere to a whole slew of people who had never played one before.
I'd get into a pick up team and be, "Ok, hang here I'll pull the mobs to us." only to be met with "umm what's a mob?" or "you're pulling what??" or even "dude, stop pulling your finger" Tankers that scrapped, Defenders who played like Blasters, Scrappers who wanted to be Tanks, etc. etc. I made some great friends and while sometimes frustrating, that newbieness was a lot of times a refreshing change
I just wanted to chime in that if you take the time to stop and politely help someone understand the tactics more, or are open to people who want to tell you about their own tactics, a lot of times you can make a good addition to your friends list. In short, ya gotta lub da newbs!
Of course, some jerk who plays like a fool and gets everyone killed and won't listen to anyone is certainly a pain. I usually play a bit more conservatively with a new pick up group to test the waters before I open myself up for the rollercoaster ride to Debt City
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Come play with the Pingus some, the debt fades and it is really funny when you get some...
YMMV---IMOIce Ember
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I saw this and decided I'd have to share some of my own noobiness. Of course, these aren't always representative of my play (in fact I've been complimented quite a few times by teams I've been on) but some days are better than others.
1. "Pulling" with Ring of Fire. 
Oops! In reality, it was just next to power bolt, and I was tired and barely paying attention and just hit the wrong button. But it was funny! At least this one was solo.
2. After playing the elec/elec brute for three days, switching to the ice/kin corruptor of similar level. And using the same playstyle. Triple-stacked siphon speed and double-stacked siphon power makes /kins do stupid things.
3. Attempting to save a PuG (against mobs +3 to me) by drawing aggro on myself with a lvl 11 stalker . You go squish fast as a /regen with just recon and TOs. Oddly enough the two respites I had didn't save me from the two-hit kill from the boss. 
On a brighter note, my sacrifice did not go in vain - a /dark corruptor lived to res the rest of the team with Howling Twilight. And if I would've lived a little longer I would've been close enough to the pile of dead teammates to get hit by it, too! 
But I got a wakie from one of them.
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I remember well all the newbies when City of Heroes first came out. I really loved that about the game. You could tell it was opening up the MMO genere to a whole slew of people who had never played one before.
I'd get into a pick up team and be, "Ok, hang here I'll pull the mobs to us." only to be met with "umm what's a mob?" or "you're pulling what??" or even "dude, stop pulling your finger" Tankers that scrapped, Defenders who played like Blasters, Scrappers who wanted to be Tanks, etc. etc. I made some great friends and while sometimes frustrating, that newbieness was a lot of times a refreshing change
I just wanted to chime in that if you take the time to stop and politely help someone understand the tactics more, or are open to people who want to tell you about their own tactics, a lot of times you can make a good addition to your friends list. In short, ya gotta lub da newbs!
Of course, some jerk who plays like a fool and gets everyone killed and won't listen to anyone is certainly a pain. I usually play a bit more conservatively with a new pick up group to test the waters before I open myself up for the rollercoaster ride to Debt City
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Scrappers were tanks back in the day. They could cap defense and resists with invul or get around 3200% regen with Regeneration.
I miss that, to an extent. Now you seem to have people doing neat things with the ATs that they've learned over the years (using Blasters' melee attacks, or utilizing the control-type powers with Scrappers and Tankers). I always despised the lame names people came up with for that, though. I mean, Blappers? That sounds ridiculous ("Aw, who blapped?" )! No, you're a Blaster who's actually using your Secondary powers!
To an extent, I think CoV is still in the "newb" phase. The ATs are much more complex/less straightforward than the CoH ones, and they've got a steeper learning-curve. Masterminds are a great example - they're an extremely flexible AT, almost like Kheldians in their ability to shift between tanking & damage-dealing.
Finally, I think the number-one mistake people make, is trying to liken the ATs to character-classes from other games. It just doesn't work that way. Defender != healer, Blaster != mage, etc. To use those comparisons detracts from the flexibilities of CoX's ATs!
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Odd, my fire blasters have never had problems pulling singles...
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If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
Well, I've got a "Stupid Noob" story. Humbly enough, I'll even admit that the noob was... Me.
One of my first characters was a fire/fire blaster. I'd mostly soloed with him until he was 6th level and got rain of fire. Loved that power in solo play. As a soloer with only ranged attacks, it made sense to disperse the mobs. I'd target my feet with it, and pick off the mobs as they ran away.
I ended up in this pick up group about half-way through 6th level. I'd barely been on any teams with that character. We got a mish in an office building, somewhere in the Hollows, I think. I'd not seen a lot of tankers before this, since the I5 nerf was coming down the pipe soon, and if there were any tankers they were all busy getting PLed before it hit live.
On this team was tanker, though. We hit our first spawn. He runs in, and suddenly: He's surrounded! Those baddies are going to kill him! So what did I do? I dropped rain of fire at his feet. The mobs disperse all right. Then they regroup on me. I face planted real quick. And there was still debt at level 6 then. :P
I understood aggro, I just didn't understand that anybody would actually want to attract it.
As I sit here I reminisce about the halcyon days when CoH was a noob. When it was inexperienced. When it had never known the joys of my presence.
And then... I arrived.
It took the game a while to adapt and adjust to my playstyle. There were times of learning... and times of relearning.... and some things that need to be relearned again. When I was displeased with my ice blaster I spoke with statesman about sending the development team north for "re-education" until they understood the nature of ice, and of what an ice blaster should be.
Still, I wouldn't call the game a stupid noob. How could it anticipate dealing with someone of my caliber?
The short answer? It couldn't.
Understanding this I was reasonably patient with the devs and the community at large. I would dispense intellectual beatings as I saw fit, and the community would thank me and ask for another (Why do you think people troll my threads. No, really. Think about it.).
So, I have to say I have no stupid noob story to relate.
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I remember well all the newbies when City of Heroes first came out. I really loved that about the game. You could tell it was opening up the MMO genere to a whole slew of people who had never played one before.
I'd get into a pick up team and be, "Ok, hang here I'll pull the mobs to us." only to be met with "umm what's a mob?" or "you're pulling what??" or even "dude, stop pulling your finger" Tankers that scrapped, Defenders who played like Blasters, Scrappers who wanted to be Tanks, etc. etc. I made some great friends and while sometimes frustrating, that newbieness was a lot of times a refreshing change
I just wanted to chime in that if you take the time to stop and politely help someone understand the tactics more, or are open to people who want to tell you about their own tactics, a lot of times you can make a good addition to your friends list. In short, ya gotta lub da newbs!
Of course, some jerk who plays like a fool and gets everyone killed and won't listen to anyone is certainly a pain. I usually play a bit more conservatively with a new pick up group to test the waters before I open myself up for the rollercoaster ride to Debt City
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Come play with the Pingus some, the debt fades and it is really funny when you get some...
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No sane individual should ever have to put up with that insanity. Just say no to Pingus.
I was in a team just the other night playing a 22nd level Ice/Emp Controler with a Ice/Storm controler, a Tanker, 2 Scrappers and 2 Blasters. I would throw a Ice Slick right into the middle of the mob and watch the Tanker and Scrappers run in a defeat all of them awhle they bounced up and down from repeatively falling. I then would freeze any of the mob at stayed out of the Ice Slick shooting at the melee slaughter happening in the ice slick. The Blasters stood back and took out the onces that I had frozen. During this time the other controler used his Steamy Mist to hide him and the Blasters before he took over the freezing so I could pull back into the Steamy Mist and start the healing where necessuary. This worked perfect and we ran through a few missions in a hurry without any problems. After a couple of hours the other controler had to leave and we got a new one to replace him. After a hard fight there we almost got wiped out I had to explain to the new Controler that he shouldn't freeze the once bouncing up and down on the Ice Slick but the onces not on it. That the ones on the Ice Slick couldn't shoot awhile they are bouncing but the frozen ones still could because they were frozen awhile still standing. With his freeze on top of my freeze, the ones left standing were now completey frozen making them just as easy to slaughter for the Blasters as the ones bouncing were for the Tanker and Scrappers. Sometimes all it takes is explaing your reason for your tactics for them to understand why it was being done that way. Now he wants the Ice Slick power for his Controler because he is a noob no more.
I agree with you there Lighthouse. During the latest 2-week trial event I was in Atlas and someone who was trying out Co* with the trial asked me a question. One thing led to another, and now he is in my supergroup and he bought 3 copies for himself, his wife and his kid.
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We were all newbies at one point. You just need to have patience with them. Giving out constructive criticism can really help someone out.
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As I sit here I reminisce about the halcyon days when CoH was a noob. When it was inexperienced. When it had never known the joys of my presence.
And then... I arrived.
It took the game a while to adapt and adjust to my playstyle. There were times of learning... and times of relearning.... and some things that need to be relearned again. When I was displeased with my ice blaster I spoke with statesman about sending the development team north for "re-education" until they understood the nature of ice, and of what an ice blaster should be.
Still, I wouldn't call the game a stupid noob. How could it anticipate dealing with someone of my caliber?
The short answer? It couldn't.
Understanding this I was reasonably patient with the devs and the community at large. I would dispense intellectual beatings as I saw fit, and the community would thank me and ask for another (Why do you think people troll my threads. No, really. Think about it.).
So, I have to say I have no stupid noob story to relate.
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Wow.... I actually hope this is a joke. But something tells me it isn't.
I have a couple story's to tell.
When the game first came out and everyone was making there favorite marvel characters, I made wolverine and had just turned lvl 6 or 7, anyway i went into perez park for the first time and somehow managed to jump over the wall right into a mob of hellions... (just like wolverine would have done) but sadly the outcome wasn't like in the comics
And yes even after you play the game for 2 years and know everything you still will make noob mistakes...
Our sg decided to do the tf in firebase zulu against Ruluuka ? i can't remember his name off hand was long time ago, anyway we contunied the tf the next day since people were tired, and only 4 of us show'd, 3 tanks (Fire/Stone, Invuln./SS, and me Ice/SS) and a blaster.
Needless to say we took him on w/ that combo, was before DE btw. After many deaths, think in the 10-12 range we finally got a stragegy that worked, since i was an ice tank (at that time ice tanks sucked) and i just taunted from a distance while shooting my epic eye beems, the other 2 tanks who could survive the damage were up close beating on him and the blaster was as far back as possible behind me blasting away, after at least 15 mins. of fighting we brought him down but was still a bad way to take on an AV.
not necessarily a noob story but was very funny...
Ok me and my sg mates, think we had 4-5 that night were fighting COT in a cave (setting was the hardest also i believe)
and like always we were chatting on teamspeak. Well someone just happens to make a joke just as the girl in our sg was eating carrots (keep in mind she was in a car accident a month before and had a broken rib) anyway she starts coughing choking and goes off teamspeak, then a few mintues later her boyfriend comes back and ask's "[censored] happend, your killing her!" After awhile when she's better we all start talking again about it and found out she'd been eating carrots and they shot out her nose and stuff. So someone makes the comment of "Salad Shooter Hoooo!" and we all start laughing... We kept laughing so hard i couldn't breath, the one guy was puking, and the girl who had taped up ribs said the tape came off she was laughing so hard... Regarless we tried to keep playing and who knows how we survived the rest of the missions laughing for the next 30 minutes.
(One of the most memeorable times on coh)
was just in the sewers... told a /elec blaster to pull... so he fires off electirc cages.
The time the Stalker went ahead to 'scout' and ran back screaming with around 20 Goldbrickers on her tail.
Made a pretty cool 'last stand' though, with just me and another Mastmind firing away...
Noob stories?
When I first started CoH, it was my second mmog. My first was FFXI and I didn't understand that much at first. The first day I played City of Heroes, I started out as a gravity controller in Galaxy City and I heard someone cry out for help.
I freaked out and thought,"NO [censored]! Here is my chance to be a HERO! I've never been a hero before!"
I ran as fast as I could to the Hellion and wailed on him! Bam!!
Pow!
Kerplunk!!!
These sounds were running through my mind as I beat the living day lights out of the men trying to steal the woman's purse. Afterwords the NPC said ask me how she could repay me...
I stood there for a second wondering what to say, and instantly came up with the best reply ever.
"How about a date?"
Sadly, she ran away. I tried to catch her.... but I lost her down an alleyway. After a few more of these situations I realized they won't talk back. I honestly thought I was saving real players.
/e sigh on my level two controller. My first character ever in City of Heroes stories. I eventually learned the lingo such as herding, pulling, and "AMbusH!". I remember when playing FFXI, I tried talking to an NPC for 5 minutes before someone pointed out that they don't reply. I thought computer games were so much more advanced at that time.
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Completely Oblivious.
Critiques of team tactics aside, I'll see your 'pull with a fireball' story and raise you a 'I'll use rain of fire to pull.'
Your move.