Here's one I learned while playing the night before last:
Don't put together a Cap Strike Force of five people (to be fair, all of us agreed that 5 was enough to start) and then after the second mission spot Deathsurge and demand that everyone show up and try to kill the GM for the badge. Seriuosly. 5 people just isn't enough. And when one of your Veats (me, in fact) points out that we aren't doing ANY damage to him, can we go to the next mission please, don't respond with "LoL no kill this!" I told him to have fun, and backed away from the fight. Shortly, the rest of the team did also, and finally he picked the next mission. But now we were only four, since the other Spider dropped out as soon as she saw his reply to my request. No matter.
Also, in the middle of the next mission, DO NOT say "Hey guys I gotta go check something on Xbox Live. Knock this out without me" then park yourself in a safe corner somewhere doing nothing but soaking up experience. We wiped once, I grew more and more annoyed, and after 15 minutes I told the others that if the star holder couldn't be bothered to actively contribute to the SF, than I wouldn't either.
Seriously. Don't be THAT guy.
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See [URL="http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?p=2134817#post2134817"]Useful Tagging for the good of the Forum[/URL], my guide to tags.
- take this game seriously.
I'm sure someone mentioned it already, but damn. Seriously. We all know people are gonna do ignorant [censored] regardless of how long they've played the game. The best advice I can offer anyone is to not sweat the dumb stuff. Ya know?
Just keep it movin'.
"People who take offense to IC actions OOCly need to learn to differentiate between the two... Or change their damn meds."
Don't whine endlessly in local, broadcast, or (especially) a private channel about how CoX sucks, [other MMO] is so much better, City has been all downhill since I6, [other MMO] rocks, CoX's mechanics for X are terrible, [other MMO] handles X beautifully, et cetera, et cetera, we should all play [other MMO] instead.
I'm sorry if the game has lost its fun for you; feel free to play any other MMO of your choice. Please don't try to monopolize the conversation by endlessly harping on your new flavor-of-the-month MMO. We're playing City of Heroes (or Villains) because we enjoy it. Respect that and move on.
"I'm loyal to nothing, General... except the Dream." � Captain America
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DO NOT...
...call my character by some hybrid/bizarro name like 'blaptroller' or 'warfender', or if you do don't get prissy when I call you a 'stupinhead' or 'idioramus'. I've used those terms (the first ones) in a tactical discussion before but not for my actual character. I'm a blaster. Shorter, easier to type. And true. So when I say stop it... stop.
DO NOT...
...[censored] about Brutes going Leeroy until you've played one at least until level 10. Seriously. Solo'ed 12 yellow hellions, in one big group in the street, at level 6 (6!) in about 45 seconds. Go ahead... try. (more on brutes below)
DO NOT...
...assume any of the following regardless of your past experience:
-SCRAPPERS are undisciplined yahoos who live to start fights only they can survive... There's a basis for that (mostly caffeinated regen'ners who don't have to wait at all) but most are quite good team players. See? I threw a generalisation in there quite easily and it doesn't apply to most players. I think. Lemme consider it while I run for more java.
-STALKERS are asocial teenagers whose sole source of satisfaction is ganking hardworking, virtuous players and then cackling maniacally. Okay, maybe some are.
-DEFENDERS (or corruptors) can heal, or even NEED to heal. I think by now most people have caught on that prevention is efficient and LIKE non-empaths. Or is it just me?
-BRUTES are nothing more than mindless... okay I admit this one is getting close to the mark. Thing is, rage is insane. INSANE. The damage output is so ridiculous, it's like when vets talk about guys going power-crazy with big guns (shooting machineguns until they run out of ammo or, more likely, die). This class not only ENCOURAGES Leeroy syndrome- it makes it FUN! So my proposal: go with it. Assume that, 30 seconds into the mission, the brute will go nuts and stop looking at what he's attacking, where he is or what his bodily needs are- so help him along! Buff him. Give him your c.a.b's. If he jump in front of Infernal screaming "Ah-HA!" just stand back, light up and watch him die. Or help, knowing you may faceplant with him. But enjoy the ride. Be pragmatic. Just watch him carefully and you'l do fine.
TANKS are useless lumps, 'specially ice tanks. Ahem. Not if the right person is behind the keyboard. They can save your whiny little [censored] like no other AT can, remember that.
MASTERMINDS are really the new and improved Tanks, and they really like to just grab and hold aggro so you can live your villainous fantasy of killing everything and looking sexy doing it. Really, it's all they want to do. Make YOU look good. No no, really.
PEACEBRINGERS/WARSHADES are all snotty kids on dad's machine or rich idiots who bought an account (or worse- the rich idiot's snotty kid!). When exactly did this happen? I've seen squids make pulls they couldnt handle, with voids and titans and whatnot- is there ANYONE on this thread who hasn't? Really? Ok, get off the forums and make your first character. Everyone else: you KNOW you've run headlong into crap you couldn't survive, so why blast these AT's? They seem really hard to play, so cut 'em some slack. The alternative: be considered an idiot-noob when you hit 50 and make one.
DOMINATORS are supposed to be like controllers, but they ain't as good! Granted, they share most of the same primaries but so what? Sure, I prefer the person next to me have /kinetics than /(assault stuff) for MY enjoyment, but for theirs they can play whatever they bloody well want. The dominate abilty is amazing so let them play- you wanted wartrollers(ahem), here they are; just as useful to a team as a controller but they don't buff.
CORRUPTORS have anything to do with defenders. They don't play at all like defenders unless you really want them to, in which case they're okay. BUT. One hint: I'm not playing a bleedin' defender, am I? Am I? Noooooooo- what am I playing? That's right. A corruptor. I corrupt, mainly by KILLING stuff. My primary is damage. Which brings me to:
DO NOT...
...give any importance to an AT's secondary powerset, or assume the player has any powers from it except for the first one. This is related to Corruptors being asked if they can heal, but also applies to MM's (whose minor healing skills are for the MINIONS) and controllers. There is one upside to people who assume too much from secondary sets: watching their first stalker get his face handed to him before they realise that, regen or no, he has the hitpoints of a controller.
DO NOT...
...snub an AT or build because of I5, bad press, minmaxing or whatnot. Tanks are useless? Really? Get the 'troller who said that in the arena with one, just for giggles. I want to watch. Ice/Axe tank? I'll bring the popcorn. <KA_CHUNK!>
The game evolves... yada yada... things change. Tanks got hit hard and they no longer have the staying power- doesn't make them useless by a longshot of course. I've seen useless tanks, and MM's etc... Y'know what made 'em useless? That's right- the person behind the keyboard, not the stats under the hood. A friend of mine used to make builds based on what her SG mates would recommend, then wonder why they didn't work. T'isn't the weapon, tis' the warrior. However...
DO NOT...
...make a 'concept character' whose concept is effectively useless (or almost) in the game, and then expect everyone to put up with it cheerfully. The "idea" might be cool, in which case I encourage you to go pick up Hero System rules and play the toon pen'n'paper. Great game, makes ANY idea you want. But don't get annoyed because someone would rather have a wingman with high DPS instead of a mastermind with no pets but a GREAT backstory. I'm sure the 'idea' is brilliant- have fun. But MY idea of fun is closer to skirting the ragged edge of danger, not pussyfooting around +0 or+1 mobs because someone wanted a laser rifle but no bots. Go play SWG. Or pen and paper. Or solo. Whatever.
DO NOT...
...bring up politics unless you're with RW friends or old-time SG mates. It can lead to bad feelings REAL fast.
**slight political content ahead**
Look, I'm Canadian. That means that, as far as I can tell, 51% of Americans are naive, deluded or scary as hell. BUT. I've traveled a lot. When I worked in Dallas last year I really liked everyone I met, from the folks I worked with to the folks at the hotel, the folks at the mall etc.. I don't want to get into public arguments with anyone- PM me and we'll go at it like rabid mynxes if you want, or try and start a politics thread. Heh, I dare you.
**okay, done**
DO NOT...
...mention religion either. Really, it's worse than politics. What makes it even more complicated is that a lot of characters take their name from biblical references, mostly angels and demons, or music bands (who often seem to pop holy books open and just use whatever looks 'cool') and they often DON'T EVEN KNOW IT. So. Don't ask. That's all. Being asked if I'm female is bad form, but someone schpieiling about the origin of 'Lilith' or 'Ezra' isn't bad form- it's freaky Ned-Flanderism(or pedantic at best). Don't try and change my wicked ways; I LIKE my wicked ways. All the good stuff in life is either immoral, illegal or fattening. Deal with it, or just come to Canada.
DO NOT...
...blame the devs for everything, or even anything in particular, until you sit in on a production meeting for this kind of thing. The quantity of factors that can go into an informed decision is staggering and the simple fact is that often, we can't make informed decisions. They're the ones with the datamined info, so they can know just how effective this or that power is, or if defiance really does suck. THEY KNOW. We don't. Not much room for intelligent debate, but at least your opinions count. Not happy with that arrangement? Go flame the Warcraft devs and see how long your access to their forums lasts.
DO NOT...
...whine about how an event is lame. Constructive criticism is great- but don't just rag on the valentine's day event because you want to solo. Wanting to solo valentine's day seems completely, utterly missing the point unless you're the kid I was talking about with the stalkers earlier- in which case, whack on brutha(or sista)!
I think the devs have fun with events- it's the time they can get wacky and try out stuff- any stuff, and that's okay. At the same time, if they spend too much time on an event someone is gonna [censored]; they're wasting valuable dev time, where's my trenchcoat blah blah (go play matrix online! sheesh!). They can't really win so I suggest people look at events as a sort of very cool test, not only of IF stuff works and HOW stuff works, but the actual impact it has on the playerbase- who's using it, how often, what for etc..
DO NOT...
...tell me about your WoW character. At all. That fact that's its the origin of your name/surname/SG name is, er, a fact. Not cool, cute or neat. Or even interesting. If anything it shows a certain lack of imagination- it's not even like playing an evil version of a hero you had, you're just rehashing old shite.
Anyhow.
I don't want to know what raids you were on- you're worse than listening to granmda ramble-at least her stories are about things she had DONE, not sat on her [censored] until it worked.
And if somehow you MUST- some bizarre circumstance involving a stuck elevator and partial paralysis, I mean MUST tell me about your toon... please, for the love of bob: not the equipment. The only thing more dreadful than a spazzed gamer droning on about how he owned this or that dragon is that gamer telling you about the stuff his character owns. More so when you don't play the game- then it's just verbal diarrhea pure and simple.
DO NOT...
...critique my costume unless you know me, or I ask. You can give your OPINION and that's fine. But it takes a special kind of [censored] to 'inform' me of whats 'missing' on my costume (often called an Art Director). More purple? Needs more purple? Really... tell you what... go stand downrange on a paintball field, I'll give you purple.
DO NOT...
...try and have 'demonstrations' in-game, in the hopes of rolling back I5(keep dreaming), or changing a powerset or whatever idiotic 'cause' you think you have. Heh. A 'cause'. In-credible. Just open the drapes and look outside. Aaaaw. It's too bad the world is absolutely friggin' perfect, 'cuz your revolutionary talents could have been SO useful in a 'real' situation... but having no better cause to vie for than how much prestige you get from missions is okay, 'cuz you're really making things happen. Long live Che!
DO NOT...
...think just because a few people liked a long-winded rant that, somehow, you should post another.
8)
Pax
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ok...well i know when I first started playing (one month ago)
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Looks at reg date....scratches head.....
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Or you might be a noob if you reply to a post thats 2 yrs old...
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Villain hami raids cause they take 4 hours. lol
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Fix't.
Deamus the Fallen - 50 DM/EA Brute - Lib
Dragos Bahtiam - 50 Fire/Ice Blaster - Lib
/facepalm - Apply Directly to the Forehead!
Formally Dragos_Bahtiam - Abbreviate to DSL - Warning, may contain sarcasm
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Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.
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NOT have a note pad and writing instrument near your play space, for noting important things (like, for example, who on your team doesn't want SB). 8D
It's 106 miles to Grandville, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing faceless helmets
... Hit it ...
... Hit it ...
This thread is full of win!
If you are in the ITF and there is a SK'd 45 BS/WP scrapper holding his own standing next to a 50 Emp, DO NOT try to TP the scrapper first and then scream at him when he says take the Emp...uh, the Emp does NOT, as a generalization, have the HP to wait the 6 seconds for the next TP
Im just saying...ya know, not that im mad about it or anything...im just saying....ok,ok, im still mad
Recently acquired pet peeve:
Don't
- ask me to help you form/do a task force
- leave me to get a load of people together and try and run it - despite the fact that I have never ran a TF before and don't have a 3 month vet badge until tomorrow or so
- not read one whit about the TF yourself
- then spend most of the time AFK
- ignore my advice (who did at least read the Wiki entry) and that of the two people who have done it before to take out mobs in a certain order
- then wonder why I ask if the team would like to bail at the end rather than 'finish this' despite you were asking how long it was going to take at the start of the last mission
Yes, I'm new, yes I will try and help, no I'm not all-seeing but you could at least pull your own weight.
On the upside, I learnt a lot about how (not) to run a team. My apologies to the poor souls I roped into that respec mission and my thanks for your patience.
SAVE CoX info:
Titan Network efforts
Saving CoX events/FB info
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Also, in the middle of the next mission, DO NOT say "Hey guys I gotta go check something on Xbox Live. Knock this out without me" then park yourself in a safe corner somewhere doing nothing but soaking up experience.
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That's about the time I switch to Local chat and say "Show of hands...who wants to train a bunch of mobs on (Idiot's name)?"
The Optimist says the glass is half full.
The Pessimist says the glass is half empty.
While they argue about it, the Opportunist comes along, drinks what's left, and removes all doubt. - Redwood
Alvays remember, schmot guy...any plan vere you lose you hat...is a BAD PLAN!
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Also, in the middle of the next mission, DO NOT say "Hey guys I gotta go check something on Xbox Live. Knock this out without me" then park yourself in a safe corner somewhere doing nothing but soaking up experience.
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That's about the time I switch to Local chat and say "Show of hands...who wants to train a bunch of mobs on (Idiot's name)?"
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Not sure I'd have bothered asking ...
My list:
Don't sit in Talos by the PI ferry at level thirtysomething (usually seen just after a 2xXP weekend) asking "what does board train mean on my mission" because you've only ever seen the inside of one mission in PI.
Don't build a FF/nrg defender with no shields, a full set of repels and then complain in broadcast when you get booted off teams after causing a couple of teamwipes.
Don't sit in Atlas spamming broadcast with obscenities on a trial account, it won't last long and it's not clever.
While I disapprove of inviting a team that are all 2 or 3 levels higher than you so you get a PL, if you do do that, don't insist on doing your own missions (unless you point out at invite time you need help with an EB/AV or something).
Don't criticize the empath/rad/thermal for not spamming his AoE heal when the party isn't taking any damage.
It's true. This game is NOT rocket surgery. - BillZBubba
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Recieving about 2-3 tells a minute for the eintire duration of your play time on your defender to the effect of,
"R U heelor?"
You shouldn't need one if you're worth 2 gobs of spit and a jar of cold p*ss.
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Heh, this makes me laugh. Note I run a defender, with Doctor in the name, who has absolutely no heals.
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Recieving about 2-3 tells a minute for the eintire duration of your play time on your defender to the effect of,
"R U heelor?"
You shouldn't need one if you're worth 2 gobs of spit and a jar of cold p*ss.
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Heh, this makes me laugh. Note I run a defender, with Doctor in the name, who has absolutely no heals.
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I seem to remember running across a TA/A def called something like T3h ub3r h34lz0r.
It's true. This game is NOT rocket surgery. - BillZBubba
In Ouro, the portal is not the place to park your toon to go AFK. Please step to the side, its bad enough with all the heavy traffic without 4 toons parked on the portal.
Just becuase you got a promotion in a SG doesnt mean that you can just kick "inactive toons 0 prestige" they may be alts of the founders of the SG used to fill the base 15 slots or the crafter of the SG.
Do not say your staying for side missions on bank jobs then exit as soon as the AV is dead and temp power are gained. Some like badges, extra XP, or the extra temp power on a weapons deal.
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Just becuase you got a promotion in a SG doesnt mean that you can just kick "inactive toons 0 prestige" they may be alts of the founders of the SG used to fill the base 15 slots or the crafter of the SG.
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On the flip side, it's not a good idea to ignore the Supergroup founder when he asks you repeatedly to turn on SG mode, from levels 10 up. You lose NOTHING, and eventually the SG Founder will get tired of carrying a freeloader and kick you.
The Optimist says the glass is half full.
The Pessimist says the glass is half empty.
While they argue about it, the Opportunist comes along, drinks what's left, and removes all doubt. - Redwood
Alvays remember, schmot guy...any plan vere you lose you hat...is a BAD PLAN!
slightly out of theme with this post, but I think it'll pass none the less.
If there's a major lightning storm going on, don't get on an ITF and risk having 7 members of an 8 member team disconnect when you've just taken out all three Nictus and all that's left is to take down Romulus.
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Recently acquired pet peeve:
Don't
- ask me to help you form/do a task force
- leave me to get a load of people together and try and run it - despite the fact that I have never ran a TF before and don't have a 3 month vet badge until tomorrow or so
- not read one whit about the TF yourself
- then spend most of the time AFK
- ignore my advice (who did at least read the Wiki entry) and that of the two people who have done it before to take out mobs in a certain order
- then wonder why I ask if the team would like to bail at the end rather than 'finish this' despite you were asking how long it was going to take at the start of the last mission
Yes, I'm new, yes I will try and help, no I'm not all-seeing but you could at least pull your own weight.
On the upside, I learnt a lot about how (not) to run a team. My apologies to the poor souls I roped into that respec mission and my thanks for your patience.
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What if we need someone to fill and you can simply quit once we start?
Especially if we're doing the Cap SF, since we'd ask someone at the Black Market.
Deamus the Fallen - 50 DM/EA Brute - Lib
Dragos Bahtiam - 50 Fire/Ice Blaster - Lib
/facepalm - Apply Directly to the Forehead!
Formally Dragos_Bahtiam - Abbreviate to DSL - Warning, may contain sarcasm
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Don't ever say in a team "We need a tank/healer"
this game doesn't operate under WoW/EQ or any other MMO's basic rules, if you don't want to play a unique game where nothing is "mandatory" then go play WoW
(the only thing that is mandatory is intelligence!)
Whining about everything since 2006.
Ammo switching for Dual Pistols was my idea:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=135484
"We need more gimp. Things are too easy."
Deamus the Fallen - 50 DM/EA Brute - Lib
Dragos Bahtiam - 50 Fire/Ice Blaster - Lib
/facepalm - Apply Directly to the Forehead!
Formally Dragos_Bahtiam - Abbreviate to DSL - Warning, may contain sarcasm
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Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.
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Don't ever say in a team "We need a tank/healer"
this game doesn't operate under WoW/EQ or any other MMO's basic rules, if you don't want to play a unique game where nothing is "mandatory" then go play WoW
(the only thing that is mandatory is intelligence!)
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The moment someone says they "need" a Tank/Healer, I offer to switch to one...and then switch to something else instead and go solo or something...better that than be stuck in a group with someone who says he "needs" some other AT to be effective.
The Optimist says the glass is half full.
The Pessimist says the glass is half empty.
While they argue about it, the Opportunist comes along, drinks what's left, and removes all doubt. - Redwood
Alvays remember, schmot guy...any plan vere you lose you hat...is a BAD PLAN!
Don't constantly refer to City of Heroes with terms from other MMOs. Broadcasting "need priest for quests in Hollows" makes you look like a real doofus.
If you ask me to team and I decline, don't demand to know why I won't team with you. Maybe I'm already on a team, or waiting for a friend to log on. Maybe I'm crafting or shopping. Maybe I just feel like soloing. Regardless, you are not entitled to grill me on why I won't pair up with you. Don't whine and wheedle, either; that will just get you on my ignore list.
(I sorta mentioned the latter point two and a half years ago in this thread gods, has it been so long? but some chucklehead did it to me a few days ago so it bears repeating.)
"I'm loyal to nothing, General... except the Dream." � Captain America
Here's another: If someone is spawning TOT mobs and training the ones he doesn't need to the hospital drones, either get out of the way or fight em...DON'T whine to the TOT-er about it. With the "one ghost per 50 door spawns" rate, there are a LOT of people dumping mobs on drones to speed things up. They've probably been at it for like 6 hours straight, and may decide that you want BIGGER spawns trained directly on YOU, instead of the drones.
TOT-ing for Ghosts does strange things to peoples' brains. Don't push it.
The Optimist says the glass is half full.
The Pessimist says the glass is half empty.
While they argue about it, the Opportunist comes along, drinks what's left, and removes all doubt. - Redwood
Alvays remember, schmot guy...any plan vere you lose you hat...is a BAD PLAN!
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Here's another: If someone is spawning TOT mobs and training the ones he doesn't need to the hospital drones, either get out of the way or fight em...DON'T whine to the TOT-er about it. With the "one ghost per 50 door spawns" rate, there are a LOT of people dumping mobs on drones to speed things up. They've probably been at it for like 6 hours straight, and may decide that you want BIGGER spawns trained directly on YOU, instead of the drones.
TOT-ing for Ghosts does strange things to peoples' brains. Don't push it.
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If a 50 is trailing 50-53 mobs through the low end of PI then that person is being a jerk--especially if they don't have a taunt (or similar) to hold the aggro. Ghost hunting is no excuse for griefing people 8 levels lower than you.
I was minding my own business, ToTing on my 43 scrapper when I got zapped by a 50-something witch. Some numnutz was trailing monsters and was not able to hold the aggro. Maybe he was "ghost hunting" and maybe he was just purposefully griefing; it looked the same to me either way.
If someone threatened to train mobs on another player, that is definitely griefing and should be reported.
Pinnacle
Glowworm * Brrr * Lilinoe
Protector
Kid Trance * Ms. Impala * Red Helen
Virtue
Pooka Pete
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Do not offer unsolicited advice on a persons build, in which you refer to them as an idiot for picking a certain power or set.
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I totally understand your point. On the flipside, I like learning as much as possible about the game from other players. I may ask someone why they chose a certain power over another, but I don't necessarily mean that in a negative way. I'm simply asking to see if there's something I may be overlooking--something new I could learn about the game.
Of course, I'd never call you an idiot if I disagree with your choices. My mother raised me right, I'd call you an idiot in a private tell to another player. LOL JK JK JK
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Or even worse then calling them an idiot for picking a certain power or slotting a power the way YOU the account owner feels it should be slotting on YOUR character is when the rude person starts singling you out for abusive treatment when you refuse to respec YOUR character to THEIR Specifications.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.