Manticore founded Wyvern?
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0th_Power,
Posted on: 2005-11-29 10:23 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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woot - blackmail material!
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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They're a little slow on the uptake. A bunch of guys running around with bows? Who else could it be, Ted Nugent?
-- Doc Q / Gideon Krieger
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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Well.. hopefully the Freedom Phalanx don't read the Dev Digest. 
Wyvern, oh man they make my MM laugh.
I mean they wear the same brown leather outfits as Manticore, use bows and then there's the attitude and name.. I mean _come on_
My MM feel so damn sorry for these guys. I think she might start running shipments of laser rifles to them, I mean theres something embarasing about slaughtering guys who are bouncing arrows off your combat robots as you sear them under a hail of missiles, laser fire and plasma.
Seriously Manticore, I mean Longbow have "bow" in their _name_ and they're not stupid enough to use them. Someone give these poor schmo's a real weapon.
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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The Phalanx is either purposefully avoiding putting 1+1 together or they are very dim.
If I teamed up with a rich, crime-fighting, super-archer named after a mythical beast who has a certain vigilante attitude and then all of a sudden a group of super-archers appeared who also were named after a mythical beast and who used similar technology and who shared his attitude it would make me say, "hmm" at the very least. I mean how many super-archers are there anyway?
(By "super-archers" I mean archers who can effectively replace a SWAT team).
If Manty wants to be discreet give them guns. And maybe name them something less obvious, like "Manticore's Super-Agent Team*". *not sponsored or associated with Manticore.
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Manticore funded Wyvern to do the jobs Longbow couldn't for one reason or another.
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Wyvern is my favorite opposition in CoV. I was hoping they would have been more prominent in the 30s. Any chance we'll see more of them in the 40+ game?
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Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
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They're not? A bunch of crime-fighting archers, named after a mythological beast, and they didn't immediately make that connection? My villain is smarter than the entire Phalanx put together?
Excellent...
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I should have read further before posting. Yeah, I think the Phalanx went into Supering because their SATs weren't so hot...
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Kid Trance * Ms. Impala * Red Helen
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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I was right! He founded it! Whoohoo! In your face....um....whoever.
*ahem*
I was right! *does the Dance of Rightness*
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Seriously Manticore, I mean Longbow have "bow" in their _name_ and they're not stupid enough to use them. Someone give these poor schmo's a real weapon.
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In a fit of true oddness, you will see Longbow operatives practicing with bow and arrow on the island they control in Nerva. It's pretty out of place looking, since they don't use those in everyday action.
Maybe they're studying Zen practice.
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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The Phalanx is either purposefully avoiding putting 1+1 together or they are very dim.
If I teamed up with a rich, crime-fighting, super-archer named after a mythical beast who has a certain vigilante attitude and then all of a sudden a group of super-archers appeared who also were named after a mythical beast and who used similar technology and who shared his attitude it would make me say, "hmm" at the very least. I mean how many super-archers are there anyway?
(By "super-archers" I mean archers who can effectively replace a SWAT team).
If Manty wants to be discreet give them guns. And maybe name them something less obvious, like "Manticore's Super-Agent Team*". *not sponsored or associated with Manticore.
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Maybe they're not even aware of Wyvern itself. Think about it, the Phalanx operates in Paragon, but Wyvern operates in the Rogue Isles. Manticore and Statesman are the only ones who have any interest in the Isles; in the Top Cow comics, Positron, Synapse and Sister Psyche didn't even know who Recluse was. That's probably what Posi meant when he said "the rest of the Phalanx." Numina most likely knows, being a mystic, and Statesman probably knows (but doesn't care), and Citadel is probably oblivious like the other three.
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
Warning: This poster likes to play Devil's Advocate.
ooooo...Manticore has a secret!
I'M GOING TO TELL!!
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Maybe they're not even aware of Wyvern itself. Think about it, the Phalanx operates in Paragon, but Wyvern operates in the Rogue Isles. Manticore and Statesman are the only ones who have any interest in the Isles; in the Top Cow comics, Positron, Synapse and Sister Psyche didn't even know who Recluse was. That's probably what Posi meant when he said "the rest of the Phalanx." Numina most likely knows, being a mystic, and Statesman probably knows (but doesn't care), and Citadel is probably oblivious like the other three.
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Doubtful, I remember one happy fun mission in thel ower levels where a Longbow agent is funding Wyvern operations in a certain region.
Let's Dance!
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*patiently waits to see if Manticore will explain himself, in person, soon*
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Manticore funded Wyvern to do the jobs Longbow couldn't for one reason or another. Wyvern as a whole are not as concerned with political niceties and are focused on results. It is likely that many of their agents share Manticore's attitude toward fighting crime.
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Your uh, talkin about yourself in the third person bub. Maybe Manticore should ask Manticore if it's time for a few weeks vacation?
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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They do now.
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Maybe they're not even aware of Wyvern itself. Think about it, the Phalanx operates in Paragon, but Wyvern operates in the Rogue Isles. Manticore and Statesman are the only ones who have any interest in the Isles; in the Top Cow comics, Positron, Synapse and Sister Psyche didn't even know who Recluse was. That's probably what Posi meant when he said "the rest of the Phalanx." Numina most likely knows, being a mystic, and Statesman probably knows (but doesn't care), and Citadel is probably oblivious like the other three.
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Doubtful, I remember one happy fun mission in the lower levels where a Longbow agent is funding Wyvern operations in a certain region.
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Is that Longbow agent a member of the Freedom Phalanx? Just because Longbow is aware of Wyvern doesn't mean all the heroes of Paragon are.
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
Warning: This poster likes to play Devil's Advocate.
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
[/ QUOTE ] You mean there's a big army of guys in brown leather with helmets similar to Manti's who use bows, are called Wyvern and the Phalanx don't even suspect there's a connection to Manticore???
Man, they're more oblivious than I thought... 
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They're not? A bunch of crime-fighting archers, named after a mythological beast, and they didn't immediately make that connection? My villain is smarter than the entire Phalanx put together?
Have you read the Top Cow comic?
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Not since it became downloadable instead of portable to my workplace thereby diminishing my reading material at lunch.
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Seriously Manticore, I mean Longbow have "bow" in their _name_ and they're not stupid enough to use them. Someone give these poor schmo's a real weapon.
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In a fit of true oddness, you will see Longbow operatives practicing with bow and arrow on the island they control in Nerva. It's pretty out of place looking, since they don't use those in everyday action.
Maybe they're studying Zen practice.
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In the initial stages of training, Longbow operatives are taught how "long" it takes to kill anything with a "bow" thereby drawing their name from the lesson so many heroes in the past have failed to grasp.
Then they are issued laser rifles because they have failed to learn the "stormtrooper" lesson and mindlessly fall to my MaliceMechs.
I strongly suspect those heroes who know enough about Wyvern to make the connection willfully choose to look the other way. Heck, Superman's entire connection to Batman is essentially built on this concept.
Go talk to Brass in Aeon City sometime. It's a more benign, hero-oriented version of 'deniability'. "An uncontrolled group of vigilanties who blatantly ignores the niceties of the legal system in the Rogue Isles? Great Ceasar's Ghost!" *hero looks innocent*
Mind you, I was in the single digit ages when I watched Dukes of Hazzard faithfully, but I sorta remember an episode where they were cops, and refused to carry guns also. (the sequence of Bo returning the gun may have been part of the opening credits)
I have a friend who grabbed them on DvD. Maybe I'll subject myself to them again sometime.
As to the rest of the Phalanx being oblivious.. I can see it. Sister Psyche likely spends most of her day trying to drown out back ground noise, Posi likely spends all his time in the lab, and Synapse keeps himself busy with porn. Beyond that or the "omg, trouble!" alert, I'm guessing these guys rarely even log onto CNN. com.
And Citidel likely knows and figured it out, (cause of his sick access to tons of data) but why would he act on it unless they brought their show to paragon?
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In a fit of true oddness, you will see Longbow operatives practicing with bow and arrow on the island they control in Nerva. It's pretty out of place looking, since they don't use those in everyday action.
Maybe they're studying Zen practice.
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The first time I ran across that scenario, it was all male Wyvern teaching all female Longbow. I knew what was really going on there. It was one of the more amusing bits of street theater I'd seen in the game.
I was disappointed to find out later that the implication of fraternization wasn't intentional. After all, there's much testerone but no females in Wyvern--I'd expect the guys would be hitting on anything that moves.
-- Doc Q. / Gideon Krieger
I could actually see that. Longbow guys getting ticked off that the wyvern guys keep stealing their girls.
Havent noticed it in game yet though. I usually skirt that island when i can.
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Umm, how does Longbow flout international law? It is a private force, not part of any governement, so isn't bound by most of them.
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Psst, international law applies to everyone, that's how individuals get charged with war crimes.
People get charged with war crimes because they lost a war. As long as you're on the winning side, you're fine.
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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Clearly Manticore doesn't run in SG mode!
(Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
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