Manticore founded Wyvern?
By
0th_Power,
Posted on: 2005-11-29 10:23 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Thank you Manti. So the debate ends. Manticore didn't found the group and most likely just inspired it. Very interesting.
Um, that's not what he said.
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Thank you Manti. So the debate ends. Manticore didn't found the group and most likely just inspired it. Very interesting.
Um, that's not what he said.
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Manticore did say he funded the group.
Manticore did not say he founded the group.
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Thank you Manti. So the debate ends. Manticore didn't found the group and most likely just inspired it. Very interesting.
Um, that's not what he said.
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Do you just like fighting Venture?
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Manticore funded Wyvern to do the jobs Longbow couldn't for one reason or another. Wyvern as a whole are not as concerned with political niceties and are focused on results. It is likely that many of their agents share Manticore's attitude toward fighting crime.
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They share his attitude towards crime and he pays them to do jobs for Longbow, but is otherwise in no way involved. Sharing his attitude sounds alot like inspiring them.
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They share his attitude towards crime and he pays them to do jobs for Longbow, but is otherwise in no way involved. Sharing his attitude sounds alot like inspiring them.
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I think you're the one reaching here Hermod. Manticore says he funded them to do jobs that longbow couldn't. That implies he had a significant say in their purpose. Manticore also doesn't identify any other sources of funding. It could easily be read to say that Manticore provides all funding for the group as well as providing both practical and inspirational guidance for Wyvern. I'm not sure where you get the idea that he pays them to do jobs for Longbow. That's a rather unlikely interpretation of what he wrote IMO.
It actually sounds to me like he IS the founder of Wyvern based on what he wrote.
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They share his attitude towards crime and he pays them to do jobs for Longbow, but is otherwise in no way involved. Sharing his attitude sounds alot like inspiring them.
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I think you're the one reaching here Hermod. Manticore says he funded them to do jobs that longbow couldn't. That implies he had a significant say in their purpose. Manticore also doesn't identify any other sources of funding. It could easily be read to say that Manticore provides all funding for the group as well as providing both practical and inspirational guidance for Wyvern. I'm not sure where you get the idea that he pays them to do jobs for Longbow. That's a rather unlikely interpretation of what he wrote IMO.
It actually sounds to me like he IS the founder of Wyvern based on what he wrote.
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Really? I didn't get that at all. It sounded like to me that he payed a Mercenary group to jobs Longbow can't.
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*patiently waits to see if Manticore will explain himself, in person, soon*
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Manticore funded Wyvern to do the jobs Longbow couldn't for one reason or another. Wyvern as a whole are not as concerned with political niceties and are focused on results. It is likely that many of their agents share Manticore's attitude toward fighting crime.
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Considering that Longbow seems to routinely flout international law.. I am wondering what Wyvern does..
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Considering that Longbow seems to routinely flout international law.. I am wondering what Wyvern does..
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Flouts interstellar law?
Umm, how does Longbow flout international law? It is a private force, not part of any governement, so isn't bound by most of them.
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I suspect "funded" is a typo of "founded." And even if not, if you pay for it you own it.
Meanwhile, what would be Manticore's crime-fighting philosophy? "Employ obsolete weapons"?
-- Doc Q. / Gideon Krieger
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Really? I didn't get that at all. It sounded like to me that he payed a Mercenary group to jobs Longbow can't.
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The reason I disagree with your interpretation is Manitcore's choice of the word 'funded' instead of 'payed'. When one hires a company or professional on an occasional basis, one pays them for their services. Funding an agency or individual implies a much closer relationship where one pays the day to day expenses and maintenance fees of said agency or individual. For example, the U.S. Government pays Boeing to build planes. It funds N.A.S.A.
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Really? I didn't get that at all. It sounded like to me that he payed a Mercenary group to jobs Longbow can't.
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The reason I disagree with your interpretation is Manitcore's choice of the word 'funded' instead of 'payed'. When one hires a company or professional on an occasional basis, one pays them for their services. Funding an agency or individual implies a much closer relationship where one pays the day to day expenses and maintenance fees of said agency or individual. For example, the U.S. Government pays Boeing to build planes. It funds N.A.S.A.
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I can see that. I suppose I just made the adjustments in my head to say funded = payed. Alright, looking at it like that still doesn't mean he founded them. Manticore seems to agree with their philosophy. So he gives them a check and passes along jobs Longbow is to selfrightous to do. Or funding them to keep them friendly with Longbow.
Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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...well, I'm out. Totaly wrong. Sorry everyone.
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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They do now, I'll be sure inform my Lord.
Cool, thanks Manti.
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They use bows and arrows because of the terms of their parole/probation. They may NOT own/possess firearms of any kind.
There were a few episodes where someone 'borrowed' Coltrane's pistol (thereby getting it out of the hands of a dangerous incompetent) or Jesse's shotgun... but Bo and Luke fell back on arrows and dynamite because such items were NOT an automatic go-back-to-jail card.
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See, if it was Posi, he would have just said "Yes" and everyone would be done with it. 
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Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
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They're not? A bunch of crime-fighting archers, named after a mythological beast, and they didn't immediately make that connection? My villain is smarter than the entire Phalanx put together?
Excellent...
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Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
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They're not? A bunch of crime-fighting archers, named after a mythological beast, and they didn't immediately make that connection? My villain is smarter than the entire Phalanx put together?
Excellent...
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I'm just here to point out that the past tense of "pay" is "paid". "Payed" is "to let out (a line or cable) by slackening".
How weird is that?
They're not? A bunch of crime-fighting archers, named after a mythological beast, and they didn't immediately make that connection? My villain is smarter than the entire Phalanx put together?
Have you read the Top Cow comic?
Current Blog Post: "Why I am an Atheist..."
"And I say now these kittens, they do not get trained/As we did in the days when Victoria reigned!" -- T. S. Eliot, "Gus, the Theatre Cat"
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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And don't think this the end of it! If we can agree to anything, it's that we disagree and you'll probably need to give us more clarification.
Now, to find out how much that information is worth to Arachnos...
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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No wonder they are such a pansy outfit to fight............................................. .. 
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I've already forgotten about most of you
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I've already forgotten about most of you
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Hey guys,
Manticore funded *and* founded Wyvern. The rest of the Phalanx are not aware of that however.
Carry on...
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Woo hoo! Validated by a Red Name! I am officially cool!!
Although I suppose my excitement at that adds sufficient negative cool points to revert me back to geek. *sigh*
I still knew he had something to do with it.