How come we have no red servers yet???
By
Accualt,
Posted on: 2005-11-01 20:08 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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I don't really think that showing a "net gain" means that ED wasn't a public relations nightmare.
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Bottom line is all that counts really. If the number of players is growing, and continues to grow that's all that maters to NCSoft. If the numbers continue to grow, while States is forcing CoH/CoV into his Vision, then he has no reason to do otherwise. It is this fact that is causing people like Nosy to be in such denial...
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Most of your new subscribers came for COV and the hype surrounding it, they really don't know or care what ED is.
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That may be, but again the bottom line is all that maters in the end. But then again, the number of players have been growing sence after I3, so to say most of the new subscribers are due to CoV, doesn't match up. Unless you think people started playing 9+ months ago for an expansion just released.
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Yep, here we are...sitting a blip above Toontown Online and lightyears away from WoW or Lineage. It's
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Just to compare: we haven't launched in Asia.
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Is that the only point in my post you feel needs addressed? *shrug* Okay, fine. If you think you can gain 3 million in Asia to catch up go for it.
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In Asia, a continent where premiers of TV shows (Foreign Babes in Beijing, anyone?) can get an audience greater than the population of the United States (~300 million), this is more than possible.
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Wow maybe MMORPG's will finally slow down the population growth over there 
I think for the most part Superhero genre will always cater to a smaller niche than say all those fantasy games with goblins, wizards, and elves. And even if they release COH in asia it won't affect our servers here in the Americas 
So Perhaps they should allow character transfers so if you desire to move your character to a more populated server you have the option without any penalty.
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Wow maybe MMORPG's will finally slow down the population growth over there
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Not related as such, but China has developed pretty stringent online gaming rules now due to their addictiveness.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4183340.stm
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There are LEGIONS of Blizzard fans - of course they'd play WoW! And it's a phenomenal game!
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I can only hope you are jokeing about that last part, or perhaps refering to the scope design and not the actual game itself. Maybe you are just being polite.
I mean, anyone who thinks a loot based game is phenomenal is missing a few screws in my opinion.
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There are LEGIONS of Blizzard fans - of course they'd play WoW! And it's a phenomenal game!
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I can only hope you are jokeing about that last part, or perhaps refering to the scope design and not the actual game itself. Maybe you are just being polite.
I mean, anyone who thinks a loot based game is phenomenal is missing a few screws in my opinion.
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Think of it like Hollywood. Even if the guy who won the Oscar is crap, all the other Stars say he did a great job and deserved the Oscar for a great performance. It's just professional courtesy. I'm certain that Jack's real opinion of WoW is another story altogether.
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Yah the day I see superheroes farming instances for uber gear is the day I join the Scrabble Tournament Championship
States, are you taking into account that ED came out in October? Most ppl would have already paid their monthly fee and some who pay for more than one month at a time. So these accounts would still be active. You also need to take into account that CoV also came out in, that's right, October. Since there is no added fee for those of us who were already coh subscribers, a lot of those ppl said I'll give states one more chance and try out cov or already have subscriptions that may not actualy deactivate for several months now because they paid in advance.
Will we lose customers because of ED? The answer is yes. I know some who have left now because they just couldn't take anymore nerfs to their characters. Plus, states, you need to look at it from our point of view. We have endured several nerfs some, AT's more than others, and at the same time we have had no max lvl increase and no new end game content. So yes a lot of ppl are fed up. I'll be honest I'm completely fed up with you and you're ideas that are just dragging this game down. I stick around not for the game and sure as hell not for you, but because many of us have played this game for over a year and have made some true friends here. A lot of the vets have left or stay because of 2 reasons: 1) for some reason they think at some point you will actualy reevaluate you past ideas and somehow correct some issues or 2) They stick around for the friendships they have made. There are plenty of times I just log on to chat with some friends and don't even play the game. I hope like hell the first one comes true, but I've lost all faith in the dev team. And I can't help but think some members of the dev team agree with the consumers on several issues. I always imagine you teaming with ppl from the dev team and them being fed up with your builds. I mean I've seen the builds you guys have tested with.
All in all, you guys have to start taking into account your player base and quit side stepping issues or intentionaly misleading ppl. And for the love of god we need end game content and a max lvl raise or coh will be dead. People will just play cov and say to hell with coh.
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Will we lose customers because of ED? The answer is yes.
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All hail Creskin, forteller of the future!
Can I have this Saturday's Florida Lottery Numbers?
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Will we lose customers because of ED? The answer is yes.
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Will we lose customers because the forums are laggy? The answer is yes.
Will we lose customers because all of our created copyright-breaking characters are suddenly genericheroed? The answer is yes.
The real question is not will we lose customers. The real question is will we lose anymore than we normally do- and to far less crucial things, may I add.
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Yah the day I see superheroes farming instances for uber gear is the day I join the Scrabble Tournament Championship
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Man, you make fun, but Scrabble tournies are hardcore. I've heard stories about the words they use. It's insane, seriously. I'll see if I can find the website.
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Yah the day I see superheroes farming instances for uber gear is the day I join the Scrabble Tournament Championship
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Man, you make fun, but Scrabble tournies are hardcore. I've heard stories about the words they use. It's insane, seriously. I'll see if I can find the website.
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I'll take
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on a triple word score, plus the four, two and three letter words going cross ways for the win!!!
@Catwhoorg "Rule of Three - Finale" Arc# 1984
@Mr Falkland Islands"A Nation Goes Rogue" Arc# 2369 "Toasters and Pop Tarts" Arc#116617
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Quinquegesimal
on a triple word score, plus the four, two and three letter words going cross ways for the win!!!
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See, you'd beat me handily. I've never, ever gotten the seven-letter bonus, and I can never think of 'Q' words.
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Now I will be stuck soloing thru cov too?
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Join a Supergroup/Villaingroup, then you should have no problem finding people to team with. I know I don't. Also, there is a little know feature in the game where you can make a team of your own by searching for and inviting others to team with you.
Dominators don't need mitigation from their secondaries. Even if they did, there's ice (slows), psi (-recharge), and fire and elec (death).
-Talen_Lee commenting on Energy Assault's Utility
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Yah the day I see superheroes farming instances for uber gear is the day I join the Scrabble Tournament Championship
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Man, you make fun, but Scrabble tournies are hardcore. I've heard stories about the words they use. It's insane, seriously. I'll see if I can find the website.
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I'll take
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on a triple word score, plus the four, two and three letter words going cross ways for the win!!!
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that's NOT a word!
[b]Virtue[/b]
Lady Mantis, Dark/empathy defender
Woman in Purdah, DM/regen scrapper
Gravity Monkey, Grav/kin controller
Stone Woman, Stone/stone tanker
Freyja Incarnate, Fire/invuln. tanker
Head Shrinker, Ill/FF controller
Blowup Doll, AR/dev blaster
Geek of Darkness, Dark/dark defender
I just pulled it from an old radio joke.
IIRC it means a 50 fold division (as in decimal is a factor of 10), but my classics are very rusty.
@Catwhoorg "Rule of Three - Finale" Arc# 1984
@Mr Falkland Islands"A Nation Goes Rogue" Arc# 2369 "Toasters and Pop Tarts" Arc#116617
I'll be staying with CoH for a very long time because I really like the direction the game is heading in. MY SG and the coalitions its with will be staying too.
Most of the changes haven't effected me or my bazillion alts.
*enlarges cat's Quinquegesimal to Quinquegesimallation for triple triple word score*
[b]Virtue[/b]
Lady Mantis, Dark/empathy defender
Woman in Purdah, DM/regen scrapper
Gravity Monkey, Grav/kin controller
Stone Woman, Stone/stone tanker
Freyja Incarnate, Fire/invuln. tanker
Head Shrinker, Ill/FF controller
Blowup Doll, AR/dev blaster
Geek of Darkness, Dark/dark defender
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*enlarges cat's Quinquegesimal to Quinquegesimallation for triple triple word score*
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That wouldn't even fit on the board! I call shenanigans.
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*enlarges cat's Quinquegesimal to Quinquegesimallation for triple triple word score*
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That wouldn't even fit on the board! I call shenanigans.
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*adds a 'Y' to the end*
Fact: You are gaining new customers.
Fact: You are losing some old customers.
Question to consider: Could you be gaining new customers without losing so many old customers?
COH is a good game, no doubt. But not as fun as it used to be, IMO. These changes were not necessary to gain new customers, but they are costing you old ones. My account is finally going to expire on Monday, after 1.5 years. Would I have quit eventually? Yes. Would I still be playing if not for ED? Yes. Anecdotal? Of course. But I truly believe that enough people feel like I do that ED was a bad business decision. Obviously, you feel differently, though I do detect some defensiveness.
I'm the one with the U of C Econ degree, not some useless Humanities certificate 
I truly hope this works itself out, and your game is still successful a couple of years from now. But I think it needs to become less "your game" and more "the players game" for that to happen.
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That wouldn't even fit on the board! I call shenanigans.
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you the sidewalk supervisor or you playing scrabble?
it's YOUR turn. *tap tap tap* we're all waiting.
[b]Virtue[/b]
Lady Mantis, Dark/empathy defender
Woman in Purdah, DM/regen scrapper
Gravity Monkey, Grav/kin controller
Stone Woman, Stone/stone tanker
Freyja Incarnate, Fire/invuln. tanker
Head Shrinker, Ill/FF controller
Blowup Doll, AR/dev blaster
Geek of Darkness, Dark/dark defender
Just checked the dictionary its
Quinquagesimal, sorry for the one letter wrong.
It refers to a period of 50 days. Often used to desribe the time between Easter and Pentecost.
for some very obscure use of the word 'often' I feel.
@Catwhoorg "Rule of Three - Finale" Arc# 1984
@Mr Falkland Islands"A Nation Goes Rogue" Arc# 2369 "Toasters and Pop Tarts" Arc#116617
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you the sidewalk supervisor or you playing scrabble?
it's YOUR turn. *tap tap tap* we're all waiting.
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What's a sidewalk supervisor? 
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you the sidewalk supervisor or you playing scrabble?
it's YOUR turn. *tap tap tap* we're all waiting.
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What's a sidewalk supervisor?
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Dick van [censored]?
I did try SWG and WOW while waiting for COV. Mainly to prevent burnout. It truly made me apriciate COH-COV.
We were very irritated at certian changes that happened around I-5 like many others were. but since people keep bringing other mmporgs up in this thread let me state what its effect was.
I fully suggest anyone who is mad at nerfs try WOW or SWG for 1-3 months then come back and youll have a whole new apprication for coh's perks
WOW... is a very large game and visually stunning for a newbie. but when your just trying to find the bank or mailbox it's size can be equally annoying easpecially when your sprint is about a fast as an unslotted hover. Seriously i can go from perez park to icon in steel canyon on hover in the time it take me to get from the gates of the main human city to the equivilent of the tram.
Asside from its size and speed its a much harder game. a set of 3 greys in the area that would be a kings row equivilent
can kill you. goodness forbid if you try to take out more than one whites or yellows.
As a caster if your not facing a target or if you move you lose your spell and your mana. in teams if you dont have the person your following in close sight you stop following. not to mention getting in a team will rarly be fore more than one battle.
People seem to prefer soloing most the time very few people even chat unless recruiting for thier sg (which needs 10 people to start) the crafting is good but you don't get exp for it and most people buy raw supplies not finished product.
Stealth in WOW is inferior to coh/cov it offers little benifit other than being a prereq to some thief moves as many mobs seem to see through it. and it drops if you click on a glowey, get attacked, take fall damage..etc. while there are a lot of click the glowey quests/activitys you have to clear out the hostiles in area first or be swarmed not to mention since its not instanced the glowey gets stolen a LOT.
flight and jumping are fairly non existant elves are impacted cause thier jump has a small tumble in it that gives the illution of jumping higher. people pay through the nose for anything that makes you go faster even for 15 seconds.
You only get 1 combat pet at a time if your a hunter ever and you have to feed them every 5 minutes. and if you send them away it makes them instantly hungry. and you cant make them talk or emote.
Everyone looks alike since most people are going for best armour rather than trying to match or look good. and there is no such thing as a costume contest, as everyone is the same body size. and most the hair/skin choices are similar unless you go for really ugly ones.
SWG is similar complaintwize except worse speedbikes are slower than newbie sprint but less manuverable. the only time people talk is to spam thier tradeskills in broadcast. or recruit for guilds. they in thier wizdom keep level 10+ mobs mixed in with level 1 mobs and make the ambush mobs aggro. and stealth is a upper level elete power.
not to mention stelth or utility skills dont count twards combat level so if you take them your gimping yourself.
In conclution COH is faster... more versitile...handles teaming & stealth better. and you can kill more with less stress. a lot of things we take for granted are nonexistant in other games like costomization.... speed.... being able to follow enemies and shoot behind you.
ALL mmporgs are currenly showing Playerbase dacay because there are MORE mmporgs out there Its called saturation.
And most mmporgs have a notible drop in population before a major release like COV cause people get sitr crazy expecting all the cool changes and want to try new stuff. In a lot of ways its for the best. COH/COV has something most mmporgs don't and its the thing that will keep people above all else a good friendly community.