How come we have no red servers yet???
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Accualt,
Posted on: 2005-11-01 20:08 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Just checked the dictionary its
Quinquagesimal, sorry for the one letter wrong.
It refers to a period of 50 days. Often used to desribe the time between Easter and Pentecost.
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That's freakin' impressive, Catwhoorg. Good word. I'm gonna forget it in T minus twenty-three minutes...
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Just checked the dictionary its
Quinquagesimal, sorry for the one letter wrong.
It refers to a period of 50 days. Often used to desribe the time between Eatser and Pentecost.
for some very obscure use of the word often I feel.
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why didn't you say so in the first place?? now it makes sense.
*now that's there's an a, lays "antidisestablishmentarianism" perpendicularly*
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*sticks an 'L' and a 'Y' to the end*
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What's a sidewalk supervisor? 
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Dick van [censored]?
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Still confused!
dick van who?
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What's a sidewalk supervisor?
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Dick van [censored]?
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Still confused!
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I think it's the guy that draws out the board on the sidewalk with chalk then dances with penguins.
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I think it's the guy that draws out the board on the sidewalk with chalk then dances with penguins.
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It all comes back to Pilcrow's avatar, doesn't it?
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It all comes back to Pilcrow's avatar, doesn't it?
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The Lord is in all things. Have you found Jesus yet?
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It all comes back to Pilcrow's avatar, doesn't it?
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Always maybe if it was un-banninated we wouldn't talk about it so much.
Ok from the top Q (ie the triple letter score) - after stealing some 'Q's form the game next door
Quniquireme (alt spelling quinquareme).
that covers 3 triple word scores, and I think bumps my total into the 4 figure range.
Its a Greek galley with 5 banks of oars.
@Catwhoorg "Rule of Three - Finale" Arc# 1984
@Mr Falkland Islands"A Nation Goes Rogue" Arc# 2369 "Toasters and Pop Tarts" Arc#116617
Discussing possible Scrabble word combinations and scores is a sure sign that CoH is dying, if not already dead. Run for the hills. We are all doomed. 
that's all well and good.
Just DON'T mention the war!
*reference to Fawlty Towers*
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Why is Dick allowed, but [censored] is censored? This must truly be one of the signs of the apoCoHlypse.
Yes, it is clear that some* people will leave CoH after readin this discussion
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Some in this case being defined as being a non-negative integer value
@Catwhoorg "Rule of Three - Finale" Arc# 1984
@Mr Falkland Islands"A Nation Goes Rogue" Arc# 2369 "Toasters and Pop Tarts" Arc#116617
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Yes, it is clear that some* people will leave CoH after readin this discussion
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Some in this case being defined as being a non-negative integer value
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Isn't zero also an integer (and also non-negative)?
*puts 'dooooom' down on a double-word score*
I wish the game came with more Os.
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You mastery of the inclusion of theorems into an argument in a completely pointless manner is impressive. And while it's an intriguing question, the fact that it's not an answerable one makes it rather useless to ask in context with this argument.
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A thought provoking point, a shame it has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Despite suffering from a complete lack of pertinence, I'll be sure to give your words all of the consideration they are due.
The "with the other variables held constant" condition is a valid and widely used statement in logic and debate. Thus, "with the other variables held constant", ED would have yielded a far different outcome had it not coincided with the release of "City of Villains".
Think before you post.
while(!sleep()){sheep++}
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Yes, it is clear that some* people will leave CoH after readin this discussion
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Some in this case being defined as being a non-negative integer value
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Isn't zero also an integer (and also non-negative)?
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yep, hence the precision in the definition.
@Catwhoorg "Rule of Three - Finale" Arc# 1984
@Mr Falkland Islands"A Nation Goes Rogue" Arc# 2369 "Toasters and Pop Tarts" Arc#116617
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You mastery of the inclusion of theorems into an argument in a completely pointless manner is impressive. And while it's an intriguing question, the fact that it's not an answerable one makes it rather useless to ask in context with this argument.
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A thought provoking point, a shame it has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Despite suffering from a complete lack of pertinence, I'll be sure to give your words all of the consideration they are due.
The "with the other variables held constant" condition is a valid and widely used statement in logic and debate. Thus, "with the other variables held constant", ED would have yielded a far different outcome had it not coincided with the release of "City of Villains".
Think before you post.
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TRIPPEL WURD SKOR!
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Yah the day I see superheroes farming instances for uber gear is the day I join the Scrabble Tournament Championship 
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Maybe not for "uber gear" but super heroes have been farming instances (Hammidon) in this game since release, and you better believe SG's will be farming instances for Prestige and Salvage to get the CoH equivalent to "gear" in their bases.
And just wait till these mysterious new enhancements Statesman spoke about come out. Better believe people will be farming for them too.
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And just wait till these mysterious new enhancements Statesman spoke about come out. Better believe people will be farming for them too.
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I hear they're crafted enhancers.
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Yes, it is clear that some* people will leave CoH after readin this discussion
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Some in this case being defined as being a non-negative integer value
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Isn't zero also an integer (and also non-negative)?
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yep, hence the precision in the definition.
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I knew what you were getting at. 
I just wanted to make sure everyone else caught on too.
Muhahahaha!
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Yah the day I see superheroes farming instances for uber gear is the day I join the Scrabble Tournament Championship
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Maybe not for "uber gear" but super heroes have been farming instances (Hammidon) in this game since release, and you better believe SG's will be farming instances for Prestige and Salvage to get the CoH equivalent to "gear" in their bases.
And just wait till these mysterious new enhancements Statesman spoke about come out. Better believe people will be farming for them too.
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of course they will. there has to be SOMETHING for people to ebay.
I did not know that the hamidons were in the game at release.
*lays down "flatulent* and donates triple word score to the sense of humor society*
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I did not know that the hamidons were in the game at release.
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It wasn't.
Oh, wait. You knew that already didn't you. You trickster you.
adds 'ally' to FSB's word
Woot more points for me!
@Catwhoorg "Rule of Three - Finale" Arc# 1984
@Mr Falkland Islands"A Nation Goes Rogue" Arc# 2369 "Toasters and Pop Tarts" Arc#116617
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<ul type="square">[*]What this has to do enjoying/not enjoying the game is beyond me.[*]Why armsman feels that the devs are obligated to provide financial data about the game above NCSoft's legally-required obligations is beyond me.[*]Why armsman blames the devs entirely for the subscription drop last fall when EVERY other NorthAm/Euro-only MMO suffered the same drop and has yet to recover their pre-Fall 2004 numbers is beyond me.[/list]
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In all honesty, the points I was attempting to make:
1) I honestly just found it interesting that Statesman (Jack) is HIS earlier posts talking about CoH's numbers would point to a 3rd party site instead of NCSoft's own site. I was not in any way saying that the Devs need or should provide other sources; Jack did that before I EVER even posted in this thread. I just found it interesting he would link to a 3rd party site as opossed toi NCSoft's OWN hard numbers. That's all
2) MY second point is - with what I see of server load (and in my own opinion); it looks to me that CoV isn't selling as well as it could and my personal opinion as to why was two fold:
i) Enhancement Diversification itself.
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ii) The WAY ED was announced and introduced into the overall game itself.
And third, the numbers don't lie. Again, if you look at UO and EQ; they both started small and grew their subscriber base for the first few years. Now it's very possibe that teh MMORPG market has changed, BUT from all accounts (And this was from statements made back during May after the CoH launch):
CoH sold about 210,000 units. About 190,000 subscribed past the first 'free' month.
Since then the game seems to have been bleeding subscribers; and the low point (in the U.S.) seems to have been 120,000. Since then it's fluctuated, and now stands at 150,000 in the U.S. and Europe.
If I were a Dev, and the game was my brainchild, I would think that you would want to find a way to increase subscribers; but with the way ED was handled, I don't know what the Dev Team is thinking; but I was just trying to point out that (again) in my opinion, what they are doing and have done isn't helping either CoV's release, or subscriber retention or growth.
Now, Jack seemingly wants to come out and refutew all this and say that this claim/opinion of mine is both baseless and incorrect. To me, that's fine, and if the post I5/CoV numbers show that, then again, I'd hapily eat crow.
What do I explicitly think:
1) I think the Playerbase deserved to be treated better it did in regards to ED. That's how I honestly feel. It's not like they came up with it 6 weeks ago and announced it two weeks before it went live; both Positron, and hell, the patch notes stated it's been a part of testing since March 2005; and that goes against what the Devs said at CoH launch that they would just throw stuff out there without player feedback; and that's what the test server was for. And yes, ED was in fact on the test server for two weeks; but given it was 'internal' for 8 months, while accurate to the 'letter' of the statement; (agian imo) that violated the 'spirit' of the statement in that most of the playerbase thought it meant we would have time to voice our opinions and have a fair chance a being heard.
2) That this change in Jack's (and in effect the Dev Team's attitude (at least what was stated back then); has negatively affected the game, and sales of the CoV expansion. I also think the Devs aree too focused on power balance and not focused enough on adding new and interesting contenty to the game.
What would I like?
I'd like to see more focus on new content as opposed to the overfocus on power balance. Now, I thought I5 WAS need, and did and still do support what was done in and with it; and my main (the MA/SR Scrapper that is my account namesake) was DEFINITELY affected by I5 too. I think ED was a step too far (but that's me).
I think all the above has indeed HURT CoH overall, and I am upset because it IS a game I like and did enjoy a lot. I guess I'm just surprised that the Devs did what I consider a complete 180 in that they used to listen to the Playerbase, but really no longer feel it's the thing to do.
But again, I don't see how not being able to grow beyond your initial launch numbers, even after the release of an Expansion that's been in the works sinxce before the original game was released can be viewed as 'positive' for the game; AND I think the recent actions by the Dev team before the launch of CoV did also have a very negative effect.
So, again, if the 4Q 2005 numbers show a big reversal of the'bleeding subcriber' trend; and show a groundswell of retained subscribers, I will as I've said before, hapily eat crow.
BUT - I do wish Jack and the Dev Team wpuld go back to giving the playerbase some chance to give more input then what we had for ED. I personally don't like that attitude shift, but again that's me.
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Just checked the dictionary its
Quinquagesimal, sorry for the one letter wrong.
It refers to a period of 50 days. Often used to desribe the time between Eatser and Pentecost.
for some very obscure use of the word often I feel.
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why didn't you say so in the first place?? now it makes sense.
*now that's there's an a, lays "antidisestablishmentarianism" perpendicularly*
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Lady Mantis, Dark/empathy defender
Woman in Purdah, DM/regen scrapper
Gravity Monkey, Grav/kin controller
Stone Woman, Stone/stone tanker
Freyja Incarnate, Fire/invuln. tanker
Head Shrinker, Ill/FF controller
Blowup Doll, AR/dev blaster
Geek of Darkness, Dark/dark defender