Base Building/Base Raiding/Prestige Quick-FAQ
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Ad Astra,
Posted on: 2005-10-27 08:13 in Base Construction
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O.k. this may have need answered somewhere already, but if not, how does the Supergroup mission computer work? i know you have to have a team of at least 4 ppl, all lv 20+, and they must all be in the base with the computer. but do they all have to be in that sg? or can they just be from a coalition?
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They all have to be in the same SG. If you're talking about the Cathedral of Pain TF, that's in another thread:
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I'm okay waiting 4-6 months to do Hero vs Villain raids, I just originally was hoping for it not to take over a year to catch up to the heroes, and it doesn't look like that is going to be the case. And I understand about being able to buy 40 SOs by lvl 37 and getting prestige for the final 3 lvls, but I was just saying that by going out of SG mode for the final 5 lvls with your first toon, you should be able to fund a few other toons for enhancements for awhile, allowing them to go from 1-40 always in SG mode, and not having to worry about influence.
One quick question. I am the only member of my SG to have purchased CoV. Can they still access our base.
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One quick question. I am the only member of my SG to have purchased CoV. Can they still access our base.
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No.
@Mindshadow
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Q21: Do I lose Prestige by deleting items?
A21: No. The purchase and sell price are the same for all items. You are free to buy and sell anything to your heart's content. Crafted items, however, only refund the Prestige used for placement. It's not clear as of this writing wether the salvage used to construct those items is lost. Use caution when deleting crafted items!
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Well, I can tell you from painful experience, they are lost. Don't delete your teleport pad unless you have tech power or mystic foci in quantities of 6 to spare. 
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Q5: What's the most efficient way to earn Prestige?
A5: Bosses and Lts give more Prestige per enemy. Mission doors in PvP zones give more Prestige for completion. Enemies at +con seem to give more Prestige. Due to the way rewards are split up, running a team with other SG members who are also in SG mode will result in more Prestige being earned collectively. So the most efficient way would obviously be a large team of SG members running PvP zone door missions at a boosted difficulty.
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Consider also that there is more than just earning prestige. Earning salvage is also important. Look over the recipes, and you'll notice that Devouring Earth drop a certain kind, crey a certain kind, trolls, etc.
It may pay very well for the SG to go hunting Crey, or CoT.
Additionally, missions in PvP pay no more than missions in PvE. In fact, if you are teaming, one could say that missions in PvE pay more, because the maps are larger.
However, the more missions that can be completed in SG mode as a team, the more bonuses the SG will collectively earn.
"Most people that have no idea what they are doing have no idea that they don't know what they are doing." - John Cleese
@Ukase
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Consider also that there is more than just earning prestige. Earning salvage is also important.
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In relation to this, something that wasn't known at the time I wrote this FAQ is that PvP zone missions drop "Alien Tech" and "Spells of Power" salvage on mission complete. These are effectively components (they don't need to be refined to use, but are directly used in the construction of devices) used in the creation of certain high-end items. Currently only defenses, but you never know.
@Mindshadow
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SG Base Rent:
Last I saw, the rent was weekly, and it was automatically deducted. No need to go find the SG guy and pay up. Was a change in this mentioned somewhere
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This may have changed: upon sign in i got a message that my sg owed rent so i'm guessing one of us is supposedto go pay it
Not positive on weekly or monthly but I think its monthly.. However you do have to go to the VG registrar at least I sure had to. (unless i missed something heh)
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One quick question. I am the only member of my SG to have purchased CoV. Can they still access our base.
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If you're the only member in your SG, then you need to do one of two things:
1. Recruit!
2. Go to a bigger SVG. I've heard The Apocalypse is quite nice on Triumph
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Well, I can tell you from painful experience, they are lost. Don't delete your teleport pad unless you have tech power or mystic foci in quantities of 6 to spare.
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Actually with Any crafted items you loose the item but regain the placement price.. so what you loose is the salvage that was used to make the materials / components..
I think we should be able to salvage "components / materials" from crafted items we sell maybe not 100% but still
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Masterminds are pretty neat at parties - all the minions in different areas, playing music!
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Zombies are lousy conversationalists.
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But they dance surprisingly well!
This is a song about a super hero named Tony. Its called Tony's theme.
Jagged Reged: 23/01/04
Me and some members of my SG completed the Silver Mantis/Black Scorpion TF on our SG computer last nite. All we got was a badge for finishing the TF. The level range seems to be 20-25. I know max lvl was 25, but not sure about the low level part of it. All in all it took us about 2 hours to beat it. We had some trouble with the Sky raider AV*about freaking time they got a good AV btw.* If anyone has had the Raider Mish where you get the free 30 minutes of flight jet pack, it's that mission map. A huge oil rig guarded by a gazillion turrets. Som Pop up anti personnel, some anti aircraft, and some missle launchers. You have to destroy as many guns as you can to bring out Duray. Once he's out try and move him away from the platform and fight him in open water. It went a lot easier that way. BTW, as you destroy the guns placements, the rig starts to catch fire, which does hurt you and your pets, *if yo're an MM.* It took us about 15-20 mins to get him down. A debuffer helps a lot, but the MM pets get demolished quite easily, especially in the last mish. I'll post again when I get the actual name of the badge for ya, as I was almost late getting to work due to the TF The team ran in SG mode the whole time as most of us have enough INF for our lvl 40 SO's. We racked up about 1500 or so Pretige for the SG per mish. I believe there was about 8-10 mishes. Again, I'll repost when I get the final info on it.
Basic Telepad Question.
Is there any way to increase the max connections of a Basic Telepad? It lists 2 max connections and the only auxiliary items are beacons.
Is there an 'advanced telepad' or something else that can support more connections?
I looked on all 3 workbench tables, but didn't see the option, maybe I missed it.
Thanks.
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Totally agree with BB here; not scaling prestige with level is RIDICULOUS. A <10 brute can go around beating the snot out of whites for at least 1 prestige per second. Granted, you don't get the big end-of-mission bonuses at the higher levels, but when 500 inf = 1 prestige, it doesn't get much easier than that.
This mean that to get a lot of prestige, your group must either:
<ul type="square">[*]Make loads of alts and repeatedly play to level 6-10, wash rinse repeat... or[*]Invite newbies like crazy, farm them for their prestige, then boot them and find some other hapless shmuck. People to scam will be in ample supply since being in supergroup mode doesn't adversely affect them at their level.[/list]
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Low-level characters don't get any more prestige than high-level ones. I don't see the point of doing this.
I was still hoping for a telepad answer, but I'll comment on this as well in the meantime (ahem, bump)...
High level heroes can be noticeably faster at defeating white minions, given the right AT. Making loads of alts would probably be less profitable (other than the fact that at the end you'd have loads of alts) than getting a character to the right level and have them farm an especially lucrative area of a zone or a good mission. Maybe grab some perma-debt along the way, and you could even up the difficulty of a mission as you level to keep it viable for several levels.
Or you could just play the game in SG mode and let time do its thing.
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Q24: What are Power and Control?
A24: A measure of the amount of power generation your base has, and how much computer power/whatever you have to run everything. Your base starts with ZERO! Before any items will function, you have to set up some power and control. Create a power room and place a Basic Generator (it will be in the tab at the far left), then create a control room and place a Mainframe and some Databases. This will give you enough power and control to run most basic items.
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I just need some clarification to make sure I am understanding this correctly.
My VG base is small the way I like it, and we just put in an arcane workshop. YAY! Until I realized we need power to run it. Doi.
Now if I understand correctly your comemnt above, I need to place a Magic Axis as the Core generator, and then add such things as bookshelves and desks to add more energy output?
And also looking as the rooms I can create, would I also need to make a power room for a generator along with a control room?
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And also looking as the rooms I can create, would I also need to make a power room for a generator along with a control room?
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This is correct - you'll need a power room and its associated power core item (you'll know it's the core item because it'll cost like 225k) plus a control room with its relevant core item (I forget what the magic one is).
If you're not sure if you've got it set up correctly, check the power/control status boxes in the lower right of the base edit screen. Both of them should have a green bar when you've got power and control set up properly.
If you're talking about running the basic arcane forge, simply placing the core power and control items in their respective rooms will give you enough power/control to run the basic table - you shouldn't need to add any more control items at that point.
@Mindshadow
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Totally agree with BB here; not scaling prestige with level is RIDICULOUS. A <10 brute can go around beating the snot out of whites for at least 1 prestige per second. Granted, you don't get the big end-of-mission bonuses at the higher levels, but when 500 inf = 1 prestige, it doesn't get much easier than that.
This mean that to get a lot of prestige, your group must either:
<ul type="square">[*]Make loads of alts and repeatedly play to level 6-10, wash rinse repeat... or[*]Invite newbies like crazy, farm them for their prestige, then boot them and find some other hapless shmuck. People to scam will be in ample supply since being in supergroup mode doesn't adversely affect them at their level.[/list]
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Low-level characters don't get any more prestige than high-level ones. I don't see the point of doing this.
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The base system bothers me because in no way can it be analogous to anything in reality, so it just doesn't make sense on a basic level. If you do something for a long time, you become more adept at it, and very adept people become influential and often rich; there's nothing wrong with the core gameplay. It makes sense.
What doesn't make sense is a fledgeling rock band playing in Nowheresville, Minnesota, being more prestigious and being able to have larger/more accomodations than Mick Jagger alone.
It's a pity that SG bases have to be very large to have any functionality whatsoever; I want a small SG with a small base. For me, a worktable seems more out of reach than the epic ATs. Which is saying a lot, since I've been playing since the 3-day headstart (of CoH).
I certainly hope the devs don't see this as simple whining; when all's said and done, I made good on my promise and cancelled my subscription between March and late October, and I might have to cancel again. Maybe I'll try EQ2.
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Basic Telepad Question.
Is there any way to increase the max connections of a Basic Telepad? It lists 2 max connections and the only auxiliary items are beacons.
Is there an 'advanced telepad' or something else that can support more connections?
I looked on all 3 workbench tables, but didn't see the option, maybe I missed it.
Thanks.
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I havent found a way to increase max connections, i just had to build 3 teleporters to get into teh 6 zones. which means i had to get 2 teleporter rooms, until i can afford teh 600K room which holds 4 teleporters.
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Nice guide.
Any chance to update it with specific specialized items and their effects/role?
Like turrest, force fields, robots, and all those gizmo i see on my crafting list.
that is not true you pay rent right off the bat
i built a base added 3 rooms and some control items
and recieved a notice saying rent was due
so I paid it
not true i have a 30 corruptor and she receives prestige but not influence, well thats not correct her infamy is deminished but the prestige stays the same so i have learned to fight missons in sg mode till the last room drop out wait 45-60 seconds and complete the misson for the full infamy bonus
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Can you Buy a base instead of renting and where do you go to buy it.
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Can you Buy a base instead of renting and where do you go to buy it.
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If your in a Villain or Super Group go to the group Registar. You can select to start a base.
Prestiege is like Clay, the more you have the more you can mold your base. (paper, desks, workbenches, rooms) We all start with some and then Earn MORE while playing the game in Supergroup Mode.
Rent which is due every 2 weeks (what the city wants back from you) comes from this Curve:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3.../rentgraph.jpg
Base growth requires allot of time. The best groups right now have between 5-7 million prestiege with active playing.
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Okay, so either reading 150 Posts played with my eyes, or reading the same posts messed up my math skills. Thanx for the correction BB. That seems a lot more likely now that Heroes vs. Villains will happen sooner than later. Sorry for the not so intelligent post. Just something I ran by my SG about idea of not getting both infamy and prestige passed 35 - with your first toon don't go in SG mode beyond 35 and collect influence to feed your lower toons, and use them to gain your prestige. A long tedious process, but should be able to be done and be effective. Pluse doing it the prestige only way, you will only go through the same enhancement torture with every toon. If only the dev's would make it so you would only get enhancements you could use - or at least of your same origin....hmmm.
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By 36 or 37 you should havwe enough Infamy to buy your level 40 SO's, and should be abole to run in SG mode from 36-40. The final cost for your lvl 40 so's is around 2 mil I believe. You can run in SG mode for the next 3 levels and rack uip some serious prestige. I still don't see heroes vs Villain base raids happening for another 3 or 4 maybe even 6 months though. The plots are outrageously over priced, as are the basic necessities. Like a Super Computer that costs 1.5 mil of prestige? Come on gimme a break! Granted in RL that same computer would be 100 times that but still.