I LOVE his binds! It makes my player move so much more fluidly.
BTW. Is there a paypal donation page on his site? (I didn't see one).
If not... it might be a nice idea to set one up.
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Woot!
I have spoken with Gnarly!
He's busy with Real Life[tm] at the moment, and actually away on a business trip, but he has offered to take a look at his binds once he gets back and maybe update them to use the the new toggleon toggleoff functionality - this will simplify them a lot, and should make them more robust too.
More info to come in early February, watch this space!
Kal
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Hmm, the link to his page is currently defunct. Hope nothing bad has happened.
Weblogs and forums prove to me that Theodore Sturgeon was right, however, his estimate was on the low side.
I've tried both Wasabi Joe's and Gnarly's -- similar, and excellent. Truly game-changing, as skeptical friends now agree.
Gnarly's is easier to start, as it has its own little setup program. But it isn't available to download anywhere I see now.
I have a zipped version of the file -- is there anyone with web space willing to host it on a simple page?
Sure I'm all for hosting binds... send me the zip to
soliloquy@alltel.net
You'll be able to find it at cacophany.net once its posted. Hope this is of use to the community!
Could someone please PM me a link to the Speed on Demand stuff so I can give it a whirl? I'm still using the original binds which have the chorded movement issue (i.e. can't press 2 keys at once).
Jim.Cavanaugh.net seems to be dead...
Happy gaming!
-SunderX
Sset - 50 DM/Regen Scrapper - 8 years of out-tanking any tank but Granite, with 5x the DPS.
**Making Altaholism a socially acceptable disorder**
"Scrappers are just like chainsaws. Somewhat hard to handle, EXTREMELY dangerous, and by far the most fun when wielded by the slightly insane." -Alissara
My understanding:
Q activates it
up is forward
down is backwards
left is left
right is right
Q turns it back off and the keys return to normal for run/sprint...
Right now all arrow keys activate it and so does q. I cannot walk or sprint anymore...
I think I am missing a call that makes Q put everything back to normal when I want it off. The only change has been the directional keys.
/bind_load_file <dir>\powers.txt
Here are the text files:
powers.txt
q "powexec_name sprint$$powexec_name hover$$bind_load_file c:\macro\flight1.txt"
flight1.txt
q "powexec_name sprint$$powexec_name hover$$bind_load_file c:\macro\flight2.txt"
up "+forward$$powexec_name hover$$powexec_name fly"
left "+left$$powexec_name hover$$powexec_name fly"
right "+right$$powexec_name hover$$powexec_name fly"
down "+backward$$powexec_name hover$$powexec_name fly"
space "+up$$powexec_name hover$$powexec_name fly"
lshift+space "+down$$powexec_name hover$$powexec_name fly"
flight2.txt
q "powexec_name sprint$$powexec_name hover$$bind_load_file c:\macro\flight1.txt"
up "+forward"
left "+left"
right "+right"
downa "+backward"
space "+up"
Also, can anyone think of a way to code a diagonal movement? When I press up and left I move diagonally, very nice around corners, etc. However if I try it flying with this keybind, I stop.
I'd love any suggestions.
I'd also like to be able to move diagonally. (forward and left at the same time)
Does Gnarly's SoD 3.0 make the chorded movements work?
Like forward and strafe at the same time?
Nevermind
Thanks QuinnBlackwatch for the zip file.
The bind is a beautiful thing.
Thanks Gnarly and everyone who helped out with it.
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He's busy with Real Life[tm] at the moment, and actually away on a business trip, but he has offered to take a look at his binds once he gets back and maybe update them to use the the new toggleon toggleoff functionality - this will simplify them a lot, and should make them more robust too.
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Any updates on this? I have some limited experience with writing binds, but I have no idea what these toggleon/off commands are... never seen them before. Can someone point me to a place to read up on them? Gnarly's binds work pretty well for me, but if these toggle commands could fix the minor problems I experience, I would like to give them a try.
Also, I have a copy of the SOD bas file, and have modified it to generate Combat Flight/Energy Flight binds for Peacebringers. If anyone needs this, PM me with your email address, and I will send it to you. You will need a copy of Liberty Basic to run it, as I will not be sending a compiled version.
-Junction Boy
Sometimes I feel like I'm stranded on an island populated only by myself and a bunch of viscious, retarded monkeys. Don't laugh... you're one of the viscious, retarded monkeys.
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Does Gnarly's SoD 3.0 make the chorded movements work?
Like forward and strafe at the same time?
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Happy gaming!
-SunderX
Sset - 50 DM/Regen Scrapper - 8 years of out-tanking any tank but Granite, with 5x the DPS.
**Making Altaholism a socially acceptable disorder**
"Scrappers are just like chainsaws. Somewhat hard to handle, EXTREMELY dangerous, and by far the most fun when wielded by the slightly insane." -Alissara
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He's busy with Real Life[tm] at the moment, and actually away on a business trip, but he has offered to take a look at his binds once he gets back and maybe update them to use the the new toggleon toggleoff functionality - this will simplify them a lot, and should make them more robust too.
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Any updates on this? I have some limited experience with writing binds, but I have no idea what these toggleon/off commands are... never seen them before. Can someone point me to a place to read up on them? Gnarly's binds work pretty well for me, but if these toggle commands could fix the minor problems I experience, I would like to give them a try.
Also, I have a copy of the SOD bas file, and have modified it to generate Combat Flight/Energy Flight binds for Peacebringers. If anyone needs this, PM me with your email address, and I will send it to you. You will need a copy of Liberty Basic to run it, as I will not be sending a compiled version.
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I'm not sure the toggleon/toggleoff commands will work too well with SoD - with my limited (very) use of them (toggling on CJ/TI/Inv & Uny), using the press/release method, sometimes some of the toggles would not activate & I had to switch to the single down press to make sure that they activated everytime.
It seemed to me that toggleon/toggleoff are slower commands.
Also, if anyone needs the SoD zip file, I have the 2.7 version, which to me was more stable (but with less options) than the 3.0 version. Send a PM to me with your e-mail address & I will forward it as soon as I get home.
Mr E-Man ~ Mr E-Villain
XBL GamerTag: il Radd
Hey guys,
I have a question for you. I have modified the SoD files by Gnarly for use with my Peacebringer, and I use two other bind files to switch back and forth between human and Bright Nova forms. They seem to function just fine, but when I switch from nova into human, I get this error:
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Here are my files:
human.txt
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LCTRL+R "up 0$$down 0$$forward 0$$backward 0$$left 0$$right 0$$powexec_name SPRINT$$powexec_name energy flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name combat flight$$tell $name, SoD Binds Reset$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\F\F.txt"
LCTRL+M "tell $name, Changing to Normal Movement$$up 0$$down 0$$forward 0$$backward 0$$left 0$$right 0$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\reset.txt"
SPACE "+zoomin$$-zoomin$$up 1$$down 0$$forward 0$$backward 0$$left 0$$right 0$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\F\F_.txt"
X "+zoomin$$-zoomin$$up 0$$down 1$$forward 0$$backward 0$$left 0$$right 0$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\F\Fb.txt"
W "+zoomin$$-zoomin$$up 0$$down 0$$forward 1$$backward 0$$left 0$$right 0$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\F\Fe.txt"
S "+zoomin$$-zoomin$$up 0$$down 0$$forward 0$$backward 1$$left 0$$right 0$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\F\Fd.txt"
A "+zoomin$$-zoomin$$up 0$$down 0$$forward 0$$backward 0$$left 1$$right 0$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\F\Fs.txt"
D "+zoomin$$-zoomin$$up 0$$down 0$$forward 0$$backward 0$$left 0$$right 1$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\F\Ff.txt"
f "+zoomin$$-zoomin$$down 1$$powexec_name SPRINT$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\SD\SD.txt"
lshift+r "forward 1$$backward 0$$up 0$$down 0$$left 0$$right 0$$powexec_name SPRINT$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\AF\AF.txt"
TILDE "follow$$powexec_name SPRINT$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$powexec_name energy flight$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\FF\FF.txt"lSHIFT+JOYSTICK1_right "powexec_name essence boost"
lshift+JOYSTICK1_LEFT "powexec_name glinting eye"
JOYSTICK1_LEFT "powexec_name radiant strike"
JOYSTICK1_RIGHT "powexec_name incandescent strike"
JOYSTICK1_DOWN "powexec_name proton scatter"
JOYSTICK1_UP "powexec_name glinting eye"
lcontrol+joystick1_left "goto_tray 3$$powexec_name bright nova$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\nova.txt"
lcontrol+space "goto_tray 2$$powexec_name bright nova$$powexec_abort$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name combat flight$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\human.txt$$t $name, FORM RESET"
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nova.txt
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W "+forward"
A "+left"
D "+right"
S "+backward"
SPACE "+up"
X "+down"
lshift+r "++forward"
r "forward 0"
f "powexec_name SPRINT$$powexec_name energy flight$$powexec_name combat flight"
joystick1_up "powexec_name bright nova blast"
joystick1_left "powexec_name bright nova bolt"
joystick1_right "powexec_name bright nova scatter"
joystick1_down "powexec_name bright nova detonation"
lcontrol+joystick1_left "goto_tray 2$$powexec_name bright nova$$powexec_abort$$powexec_name combat flight$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\human.txt"
lcontrol+space "goto_tray 2$$powexec_name bright nova$$powexec_abort$$powexec_name combat flight$$powexec_name combat flight$$bind_load_file c:\binds\hathra\human.txt$$t $name, FORM RESET"
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Can anyone tell me what I have done to generate that error? It may be a really dumb oversight, it is almost 3AM now.
Thanks in advance!
-Junction Boy
Sometimes I feel like I'm stranded on an island populated only by myself and a bunch of viscious, retarded monkeys. Don't laugh... you're one of the viscious, retarded monkeys.
Try this with your kheldian, modifying as needed for power names and trigger choices. I don't have a Kheld yet, so I'm guessing these would work, but YMMV.
/macro FLIGHT "++up$$powexectoggleoff sprint$$powexectoggleon fly$$bindloadfile c:\kb\fly.txt"
/macro RUN "powexectoggleoff sprint$$powexectoggleoff hover$$powexectoggleoff fly$$bindloadfile c:\kb\sprinton.txt"
sprinton.txt
numpad8 "+forward$$powexectoggleon sprint$$bindloadfile c:\kb\sprintoff.txt"
numpad5 "+backward$$powexectoggleon sprint$$bindloadfile c:\kb\sprintoff.txt"
numpad7 "+left$$powexectoggleon sprint$$bindloadfile c:\kb\sprintoff.txt"
numpad9 "+right$$powexectoggleon sprint$$bindloadfile c:\kb\sprintoff.txt"
space "+up"
numpad0 "powexecname sprint$$bindloadfile c:\kb\sprinton.txt"
multiply "follow$$powexectoggleon sprint"
divide "autorun 1$$powexectoggleon sprint"
sprintoff.txt
numpad8 "-forward$$powexectoggleoff sprint$$bindloadfile c:\kb\sprinton.txt"
numpad5 "-backward$$powexectoggleoff sprint$$bindloadfile c:\kb\sprinton.txt"
numpad7 "-left$$powexectoggleoff sprint$$bindloadfile c:\kb\sprinton.txt"
numpad9 "-right$$powexectoggleoff sprint$$bindloadfile c:\kb\sprinton.txt"
fly.txt
numpad8 "+forward$$powexectoggleon fly$$bindloadfile c:\kb\hover.txt"
numpad5 "+backward$$powexectoggleon fly$$bindloadfile c:\kb\hover.txt"
numpad7 "+left$$powexectoggleon fly$$bindloadfile c:\kb\hover.txt"
numpad9 "+right$$powexectoggleon fly$$bindloadfile c:\kb\hover.txt"
numpadenter "+down$$powexectoggleon fly$$bindloadfile c:\kb\hover.txt"
space "+up$$powexectoggleon fly$$bindloadfile c:\kb\hover.txt"
multiply "follow$$powexectoggleon fly"
divide "autorun 1$$powexectoggleon fly"
numpad0 "powexecname hover$$bindloadfile c:\kb\fly.txt"
hover.txt
numpad8 "-forward$$powexectoggleon hover$$bindloadfile c:\kb\fly.txt"
numpad5 "-backward$$powexectoggleon hover$$bindloadfile c:\kb\fly.txt"
numpad7 "-left$$powexectoggleon hover$$bindloadfile c:\kb\fly.txt"
numpad9 "-right$$powexectoggleon hover$$bindloadfile c:\kb\fly.txt"
numpadenter "-down$$powexectoggleon hover$$bindloadfile c:\kb\fly.txt"
space "-up$$powexectoggleon hover$$bindloadfile c:\kb\fly.txt"
If you wish to use movement binds designed for other archetypes, the names for the equivilent Kheldian transport powers are: Recall Friend = Shadow Recall, Teleport Foe = Starless Step, Teleport = Shadow Step, White Dwarf Teleport = White Dwarf Step, Black Dwarf Teleport = Black Dwarf Step, Hover = Combat Flight, Fly = Energy Flight, Group Fly = Group Energy Flight & Super Jump = Nebulous Form.
Peacebringers
subtract "powexectoggleoff Bright Nova$$powexectoggleoff White Dwarf$$gototray 1$$powexectoggleon Shining Shield"
add "powexectoggleon Bright Nova$$gototray 3"
numpadenter "powexectoggleon White Dwarf$$gototray 4$$bind shift+lbutton powexecname White Dwarf Step"
numpad0 "powexectoggleoff White Dwarf$$powexectoggleoff Bright Nova$$gototray 1$$powexectoggleon Quantum Flight"
This last bind switches from any form to human, switches to tray 1 and turns on Quantum Flight.
@Cannonfodder
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I appreciate the post, but those files and command calls are not compatible with Gnarly's SoD system. I am not having any problems with SoD or anything fucntional. I just get that one script error when shifting out of nova and into human form. It doesn't affect my movement or power activation at all, just spams that window with error messages.
I have seen that error before when $$ separators were misplaced or when there were extra lines of space in a bind file, but neither applies to my files as far as I can tell.
Also, if you are unfamiliar with Gnarly's files, they are quite complex and go far beyond the two files that I posted. Those just handle my shapeshifting, deactivating SoD when going to squid form, and reactivating when I return to human.
Thanks again!
-Junction Boy
Sometimes I feel like I'm stranded on an island populated only by myself and a bunch of viscious, retarded monkeys. Don't laugh... you're one of the viscious, retarded monkeys.
I keep hearing about SoD, but I can't find a link to anything about it that works anymore in this thread. What did SoD do and how do I get it?
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I keep hearing about SoD, but I can't find a link to anything about it that works anymore in this thread. What did SoD do and how do I get it?
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I did actually find it on a fan website last week when I was searching around for some info, but I can't remember which one.
See my post from above - I have SoD v 2.7 - send me a PM with your e-mail address & I will send it to you. This version is/was the most stable (in my opinion), but does not have all the different configurations (such as having fly without hover).
Just LMK if you need it - I will send it out when I get home from work.
Mr E-Man ~ Mr E-Villain
XBL GamerTag: il Radd
I have the latest ones, and a set modified for PeaceBringers. Get me in game @Junction Boy, and I can IM them to you. You'll need a BASIC compiler (I suggest Liberty Basic cause it's free). Gnarly's web site went offline literally hours after I downloaded the SoD set that I have, so I consider myself quite lucky.
-Junction Boy
Sometimes I feel like I'm stranded on an island populated only by myself and a bunch of viscious, retarded monkeys. Don't laugh... you're one of the viscious, retarded monkeys.
Interesting but I say use the KIS rule; Keep It Simple. Set up a bind to change between hover and fly and use the mouse for direction, space bar for going up. Set a bind to sprint and one to turn off hover/fly bind. Now you can fly anywhere you want even diagonal!
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Interesting but I say use the KIS rule; Keep It Simple. Set up a bind to change between hover and fly and use the mouse for direction, space bar for going up. Set a bind to sprint and one to turn off hover/fly bind. Now you can fly anywhere you want even diagonal!
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Yeah this is what I want to do. Working the kinks out now (not an great programmer). The Uber binds, while nice, seem to induce lag and twitchy controls, and invariably (maybe just for me) screw up at the WORST possible time. 
The Avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Blue Spot, Son Spot, Cyan Siren, Polar Gale, Scarlett Fury, Stygian Warlock, Lady Lilac, Elsbeth (villian), Furious Squirrel (villian)
Infinity server
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Interesting but I say use the KIS rule; Keep It Simple. Set up a bind to change between hover and fly and use the mouse for direction, space bar for going up. Set a bind to sprint and one to turn off hover/fly bind. Now you can fly anywhere you want even diagonal!
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Yeah, I did that at one time. From a certain point of view, it's not simple. Instead of one key press to leave hover, fly somewhere, and return to hover, I have to press three keys. One is more simple than three. It's all a matter of preference. No one is trying to ram these binds down your throat. They are just here for you to try... and I do recommend that you try them. They made fly go from my least favorite travel power to the one I enjoy the most. (I too can fly diagonally.) My controller never touches the ground now... it's great. SoD isn't for everyone, and it's not perfect, but it is quite awesome.
BTW, I fixed that error message I was getting earlier. I somehow deleted a carraige return in my file, and didn't notice because notepad is not set to wrap text. It was a bind that never get's overwritten, so I never noticed an error in my controls.
-Junction Boy
Sometimes I feel like I'm stranded on an island populated only by myself and a bunch of viscious, retarded monkeys. Don't laugh... you're one of the viscious, retarded monkeys.
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Oh man I hope I didn't give you that impression.
I appreciate your work on these, I really do.
It's just that I am not that good at the logic end of binding (history major) and if something screws up it takes me forever to get it fixed.
I have tried to of the binds in ths thread (the first two mentioned) I couldn't get the first to work at all. After three hours of attempting to find my error, I gave up and tried a simpler one. That one worked but the controls were sluggish and it would occasionally just stop working. I am working my way through this post to find one that I like, but it is a loooooong thread.
The Avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Blue Spot, Son Spot, Cyan Siren, Polar Gale, Scarlett Fury, Stygian Warlock, Lady Lilac, Elsbeth (villian), Furious Squirrel (villian)
Infinity server
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Oh man I hope I didn't give you that impression.
I appreciate your work on these, I really do.
It's just that I am not that good at the logic end of binding (history major) and if something screws up it takes me forever to get it fixed.
I have tried to of the binds in ths thread (the first two mentioned) I couldn't get the first to work at all. After three hours of attempting to find my error, I gave up and tried a simpler one. That one worked but the controls were sluggish and it would occasionally just stop working. I am working my way through this post to find one that I like, but it is a loooooong thread.
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The original binds in this thread are way out of date - they always locked up if you hit 2 movement keys at the same time - not fun.
Wasabi Joe & Gnarley (over months) came up with full versions (different sets of binds that is) that eliminated most of the problems - and the few that are still there are quickly fixed with lcontrol+r (to reset the binds).
I highly recommend these binds - I have been using them for all my characters - even the non-flyers (just so I can have sprint on whenever I move & not have to worry about turning it off 
) - since July.
Mr E-Man ~ Mr E-Villain
XBL GamerTag: il Radd
It wasn't you that game me that impression, it was that other guy...
In any case, don't throw too much credit at my feet. I didn't participate in the creation of SoD. I wrote my own back when this thread first started, but they don't work nearly as well as Gnarly's do, so I use his instead. The only thing I have done is mod hisbinds for my peacebringer (I took a few compuer science courses in college, so I can navigate some code if I have to). Definitely give SoD 2.7 or 3.0 a try. And listen to MrEman... he seems to have been around this thread a few times.
-Junction Boy
Sometimes I feel like I'm stranded on an island populated only by myself and a bunch of viscious, retarded monkeys. Don't laugh... you're one of the viscious, retarded monkeys.
I got in contact with Junction Boy recently, and he sent me a copy of his modified Peacebringer version. I compiled it and uploaded it for anyone who wants it.
Peacebringer SoD
I haven't tested it, as I don't have a Peacebringer yet, but I looked through the files and everything looked like it would work. After running the .exe, you'll need to move the human.txt, nova.txt and dwarf.txt files into the directory where you created the binds. Also, the files are set to the default directory (c:/coh) so if you install them anywhere else, you'll need to change them manually.
I'm not sure, but I believe this program will install the normal SoD binds for non-Kheldians, as well. If not, I have the original copy of SoD 3.0, which I can upload if needed.
Big thanks to Junction Boy!
"OOOOPPPSSSS." -Statesman
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Woot!
I have spoken with Gnarly!
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That's cool!
Mr E-Man ~ Mr E-Villain
XBL GamerTag: il Radd